Can't Deny Me...reconsidered

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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    i personally think its a major faux pas to put a song on an album after so much time.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    vaggar99 said:
    i personally think its a major faux pas to put a song on an album after so much time.
    Is there any precedent? 

    I mean other than, songs like Silver & Gold (Neil Young) being played for decades live before released on a studio album.

    But is there other examples of a single being released, and the album not coming out for a long-long time?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,582
    edited July 2019
    Heres my hot take: I'll gladly take this song over Of The Earth any show. And for the next record.

    It is a better song live than the studio version they put out. So hopefully they re-record it to make it a bit more raw and aggressive, like the live version.
     




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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,619
    Heres my hot take: I'll gladly take this song over Of The Earth any show. And for the next record.

    It is a better song live than the studio version they put out. So hopefully they re-record it to make it a bit more raw and aggressive, like the live version.
     




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  • PJammer4life
    PJammer4life Los Angeles Posts: 2,669
    Way better on this live version. Not their best, but short enough to make it through. Reminds me of Big Wave or Comatose. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    They kept comatose in rotation for far to long. 

    Cant Deny Me atleast has Eddie banging away on something. Which looks charming. 

    And I will +1 cant deny me > off the earth
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    just be thankful they didn't try to sound like Imagine Dragons.
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    vaggar99 said:
    i personally think its a major faux pas to put a song on an album after so much time.
    Is there any precedent? 

    I mean other than, songs like Silver & Gold (Neil Young) being played for decades live before released on a studio album.

    But is there other examples of a single being released, and the album not coming out for a long-long time?
    perhaps Betterman and Not for You? 
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    vaggar99 said:
    i personally think its a major faux pas to put a song on an album after so much time.
    Is there any precedent? 

    I mean other than, songs like Silver & Gold (Neil Young) being played for decades live before released on a studio album.

    But is there other examples of a single being released, and the album not coming out for a long-long time?
    Could say that about probably 20 Neil songs.
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  • KN219077
    KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,200
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!
  • pearljammr78
    pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    I like both songs. Hell, I even kinda like Ole. 
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    vaggar99 said:
    just be thankful they didn't try to sound like Imagine Dragons.
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  • iOnlyownMymind
    iOnlyownMymind Posts: 2,953
    Heres my hot take: I'll gladly take this song over Of The Earth any show. And for the next record.


     :s  You'd rather watch Ed bang a cowbell than witness a song with a better riff and a jam that's awesome live?  To each their own. 
  • buck502000
    buck502000 Birthplace of GIBSON guitar Posts: 8,951
    edited July 2019
    Of the Earth is a jaw-dropper.  I saw it at Wrigley and my jaw hit the floor.... epic to say the least 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Dq5_Nubbg
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited July 2019
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited July 2019
    DewieCox said:
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
    Sure it is. People can like whatever shitty songs they want. And dislike the good ones too if they feel so inclined. 
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    DewieCox said:
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
    Sure it is. People can like whatever shitty songs they want. And dislike the good ones too if they feel so inclined. 

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,582
    Of the Earth is a jaw-dropper.  I saw it at Wrigley and my jaw hit the floor.... epic to say the least 

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L_Dq5_Nubbg
    I was there too. And it was...fine? It's a bit meandering. Probably a good reason why they haven't been able to land on a version for the past 3 records.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited July 2019
    DewieCox said:
    KN219077 said:
    Can’t Deny Me over Of The Earth? I apparently have much different taste in PJ than some of you. That’s okay, it’s all good!

    No, it’s not ok. Not even a huge fan of Of The Earth but the nicest thing I can say about Can’t Deny Me is that it’s relatively short. Ham handed politicism, Ed sounding rough, just completely plodding on all fronts.
    When has Eddie ever not sounded rough on Of The Earth?

    And in what way isn't Of The Earth isn't plodding. It's just that weird and endless start-stop-start-stop-start-stop rif, which Eddie screeching on top.

    #CantDenyMeFan
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,582
    He means Ed sounds rough on CDM.