They're going to ban Smartphone use at shows

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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Lerxst1992 said:
    ^ It takes an annoying situation ( rude cellphone use) and turns it into a potentially catastrophically horrible situation (family health issue unknown at time of purchase).

    I like Maynard's way of dealing with it.  Give everyone a song or two to snap pics then ban above the elbow use the rest of the show.

    Bands should required to offer refunds in the case of unknown health issues at time of purchase if they want to ban phones. Like that'll ever happen.
    Its not like you are not allowed to bring your phone in. It still works. At Jack White I had to walk a whole 50 feet outside of the room to one of the areas where you were allowed to use your phone. I could still feel when I was getting a call or a text.  It would take a whole extra 30 seconds to go and see if it was an emergency. 
    That is not exactly how Tool and APC do it, I saw plenty of people warned and then ejected for using their phones.
    Bands and venues should also offer refunds if I have to watch a show through someones phone then. 
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • PSUS2H
    PSUS2H USA Posts: 2,388
    If there is an emergency and your phone is ringing like crazy you can go to a phone zone (like a smoking section) to check it. 
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Nothing says rock n roll like a bunch of added rules and regulations for security to enforce.
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    The argument that goes along the lines of "But what if I have kids or what if someone I love goes into the hospital" doesn't hold up. 

    When I worked as program assistant for a college human services program, the head prof told every new class that cell phones were not allowed in our classroom.  Every year she got the same response, "But what if I have children..."  and she would say, "That's no reason for you to have a cell phone is this classroom.  That's not our responsibility here.  It's your responsibility to provide proper child care for your children and to give your full attention to this class."

    "But what if someone I love is in..."

    "If they are in the hospital, they are being taken care of and there is nothing you can do for them here.  There are no reasons for any of you to have a cell phone in this classroom, period."

    Same for shows.  Don't bug others with your phone.  Turn it off, enjoy the show, and let others enjoy the show as well. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • MedozK
    MedozK Tennessee Posts: 9,212
    edited June 2019
    The Jack White shows are a perfect example of how this can work VERY well. It was crazy, people actually talking to each other and not checking Twitter, IG, SnapChat, FaceBook..etc. And everyone was actually watching the show.. It was refreshing.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    Kids are ripping themselves off from focusing on the music by being obsessed with their devices.  I might sound critical, but it's only because I wish they could understand what exactly it is they are missing. (Not to mention what a drag it is for many of the performers.)

    Then:



    Now:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
    dr122931 said:
    When jack white did this in houston, it made the show so much better.  Getting the phones out of the bag was seamless and didn’t require any waiting.   That said, it makes it difficult for people to attend under circumstances.  Imagine if your spouse is pregnant or you have a sick relative.  I was able to do it, but had the show been two months earlier (while my wife was pregnant) I wouldn’t have been able to attend.  One of my friends wasn’t able to attend because he needed to be able to access his phone due to a relative with health issues.  Other people may have work issues.  

    In short, I love the idea in theory, but in reality it can have some unintended consequences for people attending.  (Yes, you can easily unlock phone, but it’s not feasible to go to lobby and check it every 10 minutes). 


    But what did people do about those situations in 1985 when they saw Def Leppard or Quiet Riot?
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  • Lost In Ohio
    Lost In Ohio Posts: 7,253
    brianlux said:
    Kids are ripping themselves off from focusing on the music by being obsessed with their devices.  I might sound critical, but it's only because I wish they could understand what exactly it is they are missing. (Not to mention what a drag it is for many of the performers.)

    Then:



    Now:



    Fake news.

    80% of those phones would be vertical.
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  • tschav
    tschav Posts: 2,899
    Lost In Ohio said:
    Fake news.
    80% of those phones would be vertical.
    ...and out of focus, flashlight on, failing to stream.
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,766
    brianlux said:
    Kids are ripping themselves off from focusing on the music by being obsessed with their devices.  I might sound critical, but it's only because I wish they could understand what exactly it is they are missing. (Not to mention what a drag it is for many of the performers.)

    Then:



    Now:

    THIS is SOOOOOO sad and depressing. 
    They don't know what it's like to go to a show and just watch the show itself...a shame.
    Plenty of us from no-phone generation can still remember how to do it....I say BRING ON THE POUCHES>
  • rummy
    rummy British Columbia, Canada Posts: 4,466
    Lost In Ohio said:
    dr122931 said:
    When jack white did this in houston, it made the show so much better.  Getting the phones out of the bag was seamless and didn’t require any waiting.   That said, it makes it difficult for people to attend under circumstances.  Imagine if your spouse is pregnant or you have a sick relative.  I was able to do it, but had the show been two months earlier (while my wife was pregnant) I wouldn’t have been able to attend.  One of my friends wasn’t able to attend because he needed to be able to access his phone due to a relative with health issues.  Other people may have work issues.  

    In short, I love the idea in theory, but in reality it can have some unintended consequences for people attending.  (Yes, you can easily unlock phone, but it’s not feasible to go to lobby and check it every 10 minutes). 


    But what did people do about those situations in 1985 when they saw Def Leppard or Quiet Riot?
    Exactly. We've evolved to a point where everything/one must be "immediate." For better or worse, this is how it is and likely will be.
  • gotthebottle
    gotthebottle San Diego Posts: 3,766
    rummy said:
    Lost In Ohio said:
    dr122931 said:
    When jack white did this in houston, it made the show so much better.  Getting the phones out of the bag was seamless and didn’t require any waiting.   That said, it makes it difficult for people to attend under circumstances.  Imagine if your spouse is pregnant or you have a sick relative.  I was able to do it, but had the show been two months earlier (while my wife was pregnant) I wouldn’t have been able to attend.  One of my friends wasn’t able to attend because he needed to be able to access his phone due to a relative with health issues.  Other people may have work issues.  

    In short, I love the idea in theory, but in reality it can have some unintended consequences for people attending.  (Yes, you can easily unlock phone, but it’s not feasible to go to lobby and check it every 10 minutes). 


    But what did people do about those situations in 1985 when they saw Def Leppard or Quiet Riot?
    Exactly. We've evolved to a point where everything/one must be "immediate." For better or worse, this is how it is and likely will be.
    Instant gratification for everyone....in the 70s and 80s life was so much easier without the NOW NOW NOW of the cell phone
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    JimmyV said:
    Nothing says rock n roll like a bunch of added rules and regulations for security to enforce.
    so very true and i hate rules and regulations, at rock shows especially!

    and i don't own a smart phone yet, never had the need to get one...

    i prefer stereo camera videos cause this shit rocks my world !
    and panasonic cameras are amazing and shoot killer video



  • jerparker20
    jerparker20 St. Paul, MN Posts: 2,529
    edited June 2019
    Danzig had a very strict no picture/video policy, at least a few years ago. Found out first hand. I was a little on the drunk side and had completely missed the signage at the venue, but security busted me snapping a quick photo with my phone. After a bit of negotiation, I agreed to delete the photo from my phone and was allowed to stay in the venue. Anyways, it turned out to be a great night.

    Neko Case also has a very strict no photo policy as well. I’ve seen her numerous times solo and with the Pornographers, and I’ve seen numerous people escorted out of the building.

    Prince was another one that didn’t fuck around with people taking photos/videos. When he held dance parties and small concerts at Paisley Park it was very explicitly advised to leave phones at home. Security searched everyone and would straight up confiscate phones till the end of the night or remove the offender from the property.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    helplessdancer said:
    JimmyV said:
    Nothing says rock n roll like a bunch of added rules and regulations for security to enforce.
    so very true and i hate rules and regulations, at rock shows especially!

    and i don't own a smart phone yet, never had the need to get one...

    i prefer stereo camera videos cause this shit rocks my world !
    and panasonic cameras are amazing and shoot killer video



    Lumix for the win. 
  • helplessdancer
    helplessdancer Posts: 5,293
    edited June 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    Lumix for the win. 
    110% true dat  :smile:
    people who want smart phones banned gotta realize that banning panasonic lumix point&shoot cameras will also happen
    i ALWAYS post that same PJ clip as proof that cameras shud not be mixed in with smart phones when it comes to the ban
    that buffalo clip BLOWS MY MIND every single time i see. it. 100% goosebumps all over and the BEST EVER versions and TY TY TY TY to the guy who filmed it.
    fuck the ban. 
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  • deadendp
    deadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    My husband is very excited about The Raconteurs concert because of the cell phone ban.  Of course, I was the idiot who forgot about that and chose mobile tickets, so Yondr bag I go.  
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  • huntersthompson
    huntersthompson Posts: 1,030
    As an aside....I left my phone at work one afternoon and didn't have it for a whole two days....seriously---two days--48 hours.  Once I got past the "what if I break down on the side of the road or get a flat" concern, I found it to be exhilarating.  Like I was living life in a combination of on the edge and off the grid.  Once I got over being repeatedly called an idiot by my wife and kids, I realized that one time we lived without cellphones and, despite the effects of evolution on our brains in the intervening years since they were invented, we can go (for a short time) without them.  Having said that....it was nice to get my hands on it again.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    huntersthompson said:
    As an aside....I left my phone at work one afternoon and didn't have it for a whole two days....seriously---two days--48 hours.  Once I got past the "what if I break down on the side of the road or get a flat" concern, I found it to be exhilarating.  Like I was living life in a combination of on the edge and off the grid.  Once I got over being repeatedly called an idiot by my wife and kids, I realized that one time we lived without cellphones and, despite the effects of evolution on our brains in the intervening years since they were invented, we can go (for a short time) without them.  Having said that....it was nice to get my hands on it again.
    A friend of mine knocked mine out of my hand last year and I went a week without it while I ordered a new screen & digitizer.  If I absolutely needed to call or text anyone, could still do so from my iMac which I still didn't.  It was a fun week.  Got all kinds of shit done around the house.
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  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,879
    deadendp said:
    My husband is very excited about The Raconteurs concert because of the cell phone ban.  Of course, I was the idiot who forgot about that and chose mobile tickets, so Yondr bag I go.  

    Good luck proving where your seat is.

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