Russia's Influence On The American Election

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,483
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    CM189191 said:
    ^
    That coming from the senate with a republican chairing the committee seems pretty noteworthy...
    I believe we are seeing the first steps of the GOP throwing the trump family under the bus.  

    They are trying to look like heros just in time for re-election.
    Right from the get-go, the relationship between Trump and the GOP has seemed a convenient alliance for both, and it makes sense that when that relationship became one-sided, it’d be severed and the more powerful of the two would exploit the situation for their own benefit. You could be right that this is the start.
    I don't agree.  I think being in the majority is more important to them.  If they damage Trump, it suppresses turnout which affects the majority.  Power is always the catalyst and they have it now in the Senate. 
    Suppressed turnout always benefits the GOP
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,483
    CM189191 said:
    ^
    That coming from the senate with a republican chairing the committee seems pretty noteworthy...
    I believe we are seeing the first steps of the GOP throwing the trump family under the bus.  

    They are trying to look like heros just in time for re-election.
    I doubt they’re trying to be heroes by abandoning Team Trump Treason as some of them are in deep red Team Trump Treason states. However, it will become a campaign issue where they’ll be portrayed as more loyal to Team Trump Treason rather than the American institution, ideals and values they have the pleasure and privilege of serving, particularly in Senate races. Establishment repubs are fed up and it’s tough to be “law and order” when 400 + AGs say Team Trump Treason would be arrested if not for being POTUS. Oh, I can’t wait to hear how the evangelicals defend Liberty U’s porn star wannabe.
    There was a time when the GOP needed trump more than he needed them.

    GOP thinks this is their opportunity to regain control of their party.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 12,360
    CM189191 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    CM189191 said:
    ^
    That coming from the senate with a republican chairing the committee seems pretty noteworthy...
    I believe we are seeing the first steps of the GOP throwing the trump family under the bus.  

    They are trying to look like heros just in time for re-election.
    Right from the get-go, the relationship between Trump and the GOP has seemed a convenient alliance for both, and it makes sense that when that relationship became one-sided, it’d be severed and the more powerful of the two would exploit the situation for their own benefit. You could be right that this is the start.
    I don't agree.  I think being in the majority is more important to them.  If they damage Trump, it suppresses turnout which affects the majority.  Power is always the catalyst and they have it now in the Senate. 
    Suppressed turnout always benefits the GOP
    I agree that voter suppression techniques benefit the GOP, but I'm speaking more about enthusiasm.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,139
    I’m sure Team Trump Treason will stand shoulder to shoulder with Putin on the ritz as he addresses the nation on the 4th of July from the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. What a week that’ll be!!!

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,139
    Get ready for the bodies to start piling up. Team Trump Treason will have blood on his hands. What do you think he and Putin on the ritz discussed when no one else was present?

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/24/us/politics/trump-barr-declassify-intelligence.html
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  • dignindignin Posts: 7,192
    edited June 5

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,139
    dignin said:

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

    Hey, but Team Trump Treason didn’t get elected because of Putin on the ritz’s manipulation of social media. Blacks stayed home.
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,077
    dignin said:

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

    Hey, but Team Trump Treason didn’t get elected because of Putin on the ritz’s manipulation of social media. Blacks stayed home.
    How does twitter/Facebook keep people from voting if they really want to? 

    Sure they manipulated. It’s kinda sad so many are so easily manipulated. But im not buying the excuse that Russia let me from voting. 

    Now - because they tried to manipulate our election, the US needs to actually take action. Failure to do so is failure to protect the constitution and the people of the USA. 


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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 20,139
    dignin said:

    Russia's manipulation of Twitter was far vaster than believed

    By TIM STARKS

     

    06/05/2019 06:00 AM EDT

    Russia's infamous troll farm conducted a campaign on Twitter before the 2016 elections that was larger, more coordinated and more effective than previously known, research from cybersecurity firm Symantec out Wednesday concluded.

    The Internet Research Agency campaign may not only have had more sway — reaching large numbers of real users — than previously thought, it also demonstrated ample patience and might have generated income for some of the phony accounts, Symantec found.


    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/05/study-russia-cybersecurity-twitter-1353543

    Hey, but Team Trump Treason didn’t get elected because of Putin on the ritz’s manipulation of social media. Blacks stayed home.
    How does twitter/Facebook keep people from voting if they really want to? 

    Sure they manipulated. It’s kinda sad so many are so easily manipulated. But im not buying the excuse that Russia let me from voting. 

    Now - because they tried to manipulate our election, the US needs to actually take action. Failure to do so is failure to protect the constitution and the people of the USA. 


    It kept some from voting and influenced how some voted. Look no further than posts on this forum as to how easily people can be duped or believe something to be when in fact, it’s a far cry from reality. Putin on the ritz may not have prevented you from voting but he may have prevented others and I agree, it’s sad some are so easily influenced but then again, Team Trump Treason, “loves the uneducated,” and there’s a reason why and it’s not benevolence or charity.
     
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