2025-2026 NHL Offseason
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In many markets in the US, hockey is very popular. In some markets it is a niche sport.Soccer is not very popular here.While I wish the NHL were more popular here, at times, I am fine with how it is, overall.Glad the Blues tied it up last night. Screw Burns, and I am bored at everyone jumping all over themselves to root for a guy who plays offense while lining up at defense.The love he receives is the love that is saved0
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The brains on Americans have not evolved sufficiently to track the puck. It's just too darn fast for us.0
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hockey isn't popular in the US because most people never played it and cannot relate to it from a young age. It isn't popular, therefore kids tend to drift towards more socially popular sports like basketball and football. They don't understand the rules, don't care to learn... and to be honest, typical games are boring to a casual observer. Star power is tampered a bit (you could see a star player held off the board/slump for weeks at a time). Hockey players are also boring for the most part. They are well seasoned and trained to robotically say the right thing and never rock the boat. Has Sidney Crosby ever done or said anything interesting?
In pockets like some areas of New England, Minnesota, and Buffalo it is huge and it is as popular as Canada.... but those are places where almost every kid has a hockey stick in their hand by the age of 5.
It isnt because the game is "too fast" for the dumb americans to follow or comprehend. Cmon.Post edited by MayDay10 on0 -
Hockey, like baseball, is very regional with fans. They watch their home team but not a lot of out of market viewing.
You won't get a lot of fans from Texas, Florida, North Dakota and Michigan tuning in for a national regular season broadcast of a Flyers/Bruins game on a Sunday afternoon, nor would many of those fans tune into the Phillies/Red Sox on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, but you'd damn sure get a lot of them to tune into Eagles/Patriots for Sunday Night Football.
National viewership will increase to a degree in playoffs, especially finals, but nothing like the NFL or NBA will draw. Not even close.
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last Saturday night the NHL did a 1.2 rating on NBC (4.3 million viewers). the NBA did a 1.7 (5.33 million viewers). it's closer than you think.Poncier said:Hockey, like baseball, is very regional with fans. They watch their home team but not a lot of out of market viewing.
You won't get a lot of fans from Texas, Florida, North Dakota and Michigan tuning in for a national regular season broadcast of a Flyers/Bruins game on a Sunday afternoon, nor would many of those fans tune into the Phillies/Red Sox on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, but you'd damn sure get a lot of them to tune into Eagles/Patriots for Sunday Night Football.
National viewership will increase to a degree in playoffs, especially finals, but nothing like the NFL or NBA will draw. Not even close.
and agree on the regional fan bases in hockey. I always thought hockey did a poor job marketing to their already established fan bases. stop trying to get people in the non-markets to watch. what they need to improve their ratings is for fans in the hockey markets to watch other teams when they are on especially come playoff time. too many fans are one team fans and don't continue watching once their team is eliminated.
no sport in the US will come close to the NFL in ratings. the NFL has like the top 10 rated shows every week.0 -
It was a fucking joke, or did you miss the lol and reference to the fox track. Hockey players are not boring...that's a load of crap.MayDay10 said:hockey isn't popular in the US because most people never played it and cannot relate to it from a young age. It isn't popular, therefore kids tend to drift towards more socially popular sports like basketball and football. They don't understand the rules, don't care to learn... and to be honest, typical games are boring to a casual observer. Star power is tampered a bit (you could see a star player held off the board/slump for weeks at a time). Hockey players are also boring for the most part. They are well seasoned and trained to robotically say the right thing and never rock the boat. Has Sidney Crosby ever done or said anything interesting?
In pockets like some areas of New England, Minnesota, and Buffalo it is huge and it is as popular as Canada.... but those are places where almost every kid has a hockey stick in their hand by the age of 5.
It isnt because the game is "too fast" for the dumb americans to follow or comprehend. Cmon.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
It was a fucking joke...mrussel1 said:The brains on Americans have not evolved sufficiently to track the puck. It's just too darn fast for us.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
It is also a very expensive sport to actually play. I played as a kid and prayed to god my kids would not want to play. More so for the 5am practices than the cost. A lot of towns and schools simply do not have the resources to have a hockey league or a high school team.MayDay10 said:hockey isn't popular in the US because most people never played it and cannot relate to it from a young age. It isn't popular, therefore kids tend to drift towards more socially popular sports like basketball and football. They don't understand the rules, don't care to learn... and to be honest, typical games are boring to a casual observer. Star power is tampered a bit (you could see a star player held off the board/slump for weeks at a time). Hockey players are also boring for the most part. They are well seasoned and trained to robotically say the right thing and never rock the boat. Has Sidney Crosby ever done or said anything interesting?
In pockets like some areas of New England, Minnesota, and Buffalo it is huge and it is as popular as Canada.... but those are places where almost every kid has a hockey stick in their hand by the age of 5.
It isnt because the game is "too fast" for the dumb americans to follow or comprehend. Cmon.0 -
Hockey players are boring, now that is some straight up bullshit...
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Why do you keep referencing the 2-line pass, it was brought back in 2005...it did fuck-all to increase scoring...mrussel1 said:
And the two line pass. Im not sure I mentioned earlier but the NHL is unique in that it officiates differently in the playoffs. No other league does that. I think that stymies scoringMeltdown99 said:
The '90s were awful. I believe that is when the left wing lock and neutral zone trap systems were introduced. I quit watching hockey in the '90s...I think the game is faster than ever, allowing for the small forwards to excel.pjhawks said:the NHL game is better today that it has been in a long long time. do you guys not remember the awful 90s where it was impossible to score because of the defenses and allowing interference on every play? Offenses are fine in today's NHL. Just becomes harder to score in the playoffs because all 5 defenders will try to block every shot in the zone. that's the biggest issue in playoff hockey. getting shots through to the net.
I'm not sure NBA will every truly take over either. there are just not enough teams that win on a year to year basis.something like the number 1 seeds have won over 70% of the NBA titles. and the 1 and 2 seeds something like 85%. I think only 2 teams ever outside a 3 seed have won an NBA title. the chalk plays in the NBA and it's pretty boring unless you are one of those teams.
The greatest coach of all-time has said it adds no benefit and does not help to score. He has explained why. Read up on it, he knows more about hockey than anyone alive...
And if you wanna know how many breakaways it has added, do the research. But facts are facts, allowing the skilled players to use their speed is increasing scoring...not the 2 line pass.
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You posted the Bowman quote after I was talking about the 2 line pass. And no thanks on crunching data on it, I really don't care any more about that than widening the net. This is a rock band forum where we get to wonder aloud without researching.Meltdown99 said:
Why do you keep referencing the 2-line pass, it was brought back in 2005...it did fuck-all to increase scoring...mrussel1 said:
And the two line pass. Im not sure I mentioned earlier but the NHL is unique in that it officiates differently in the playoffs. No other league does that. I think that stymies scoringMeltdown99 said:
The '90s were awful. I believe that is when the left wing lock and neutral zone trap systems were introduced. I quit watching hockey in the '90s...I think the game is faster than ever, allowing for the small forwards to excel.pjhawks said:the NHL game is better today that it has been in a long long time. do you guys not remember the awful 90s where it was impossible to score because of the defenses and allowing interference on every play? Offenses are fine in today's NHL. Just becomes harder to score in the playoffs because all 5 defenders will try to block every shot in the zone. that's the biggest issue in playoff hockey. getting shots through to the net.
I'm not sure NBA will every truly take over either. there are just not enough teams that win on a year to year basis.something like the number 1 seeds have won over 70% of the NBA titles. and the 1 and 2 seeds something like 85%. I think only 2 teams ever outside a 3 seed have won an NBA title. the chalk plays in the NBA and it's pretty boring unless you are one of those teams.
The greatest coach of all-time has said it adds no benefit and does not help to score. He has explained why. Read up on it, he knows more about hockey than anyone alive...
And if you wanna know how many breakaways it has added, do the research. But facts are facts, allowing the skilled players to use their speed is increasing scoring...not the 2 line pass.0 -
Likely be a bigger disparity during the Finals, though the lack of a LeBron has/will hurt the NBA this year.pjhawks said:
last Saturday night the NHL did a 1.2 rating on NBC (4.3 million viewers). the NBA did a 1.7 (5.33 million viewers). it's closer than you think.Poncier said:Hockey, like baseball, is very regional with fans. They watch their home team but not a lot of out of market viewing.
You won't get a lot of fans from Texas, Florida, North Dakota and Michigan tuning in for a national regular season broadcast of a Flyers/Bruins game on a Sunday afternoon, nor would many of those fans tune into the Phillies/Red Sox on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, but you'd damn sure get a lot of them to tune into Eagles/Patriots for Sunday Night Football.
National viewership will increase to a degree in playoffs, especially finals, but nothing like the NFL or NBA will draw. Not even close.
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not sure about that. NHL will have much bigger market teams. Looking at Boston vs.San Jose/St. Louis in the NHL while the NBA is going to be Golden State vs. Milwaukee/Toronto. Small US market or non-US Market in the Eastern Conference for the NBA. that's not a good way to get ratings.Poncier said:
Likely be a bigger disparity during the Finals, though the lack of a LeBron has/will hurt the NBA this year.pjhawks said:
last Saturday night the NHL did a 1.2 rating on NBC (4.3 million viewers). the NBA did a 1.7 (5.33 million viewers). it's closer than you think.Poncier said:Hockey, like baseball, is very regional with fans. They watch their home team but not a lot of out of market viewing.
You won't get a lot of fans from Texas, Florida, North Dakota and Michigan tuning in for a national regular season broadcast of a Flyers/Bruins game on a Sunday afternoon, nor would many of those fans tune into the Phillies/Red Sox on ESPN Sunday Night Baseball, but you'd damn sure get a lot of them to tune into Eagles/Patriots for Sunday Night Football.
National viewership will increase to a degree in playoffs, especially finals, but nothing like the NFL or NBA will draw. Not even close.0 -
Go Blues!
the rest of these teams can go fuck themselves.If I had known then what I know now...
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14Philly I & II, 16Denver 22
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Holy shit!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Seems the blues are fucking themselves.Wobbie said:Go Blues!
the rest of these teams can go fuck themselves.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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It looks like a blown call...
CBC's last replay showed the possibility that the puck may have hit a St. Louis player, barely. But certainly not definitive and certainly not something the refs saw. The CBC host said the back ref is responsible for tracking the puck...the reffing these playoffs have been bad. And SJ is benefiting a little.
Nothing can be done now. St. Louis just has to move on and win the next game.
However, I am getting the feeling that maybe this is SJ year?Give Peas A Chance…0 -
not sure how the refs missed that one. it was obvious to everyone i was watching it with right away that it was a hand pass. shitty way to take a "L" in OT playoffs ...Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0
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