2025-2026 NHL Offseason

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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,259
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    cutz said:
    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree on the equipment, as long as they don't sacrifice protection.  Goalie equipment needs to be minimized where possible.  IMO, they could increase the size of the nets too.... even just a few inches in either direction could make a lot of difference.

    And please do away with stupid, counter-productive "coaches challenges".  All the offsides and goalie interference challenges serve is to drain the game of even more goals and excitement. You cant challenge an incorrect offsides call to get a scoring chance back, it only works 1-way.  In both cases it is unnecessary and cumbersome.  In 35 years of watching hockey, I had never desired anything close to those rules.  Video review should be reduced to: did the puck cross the line?

    Other, more revolutionary things?  Increase the height of the glass in each team's zone, and if not, standardize the netting and make it in play.  Move the net away from the boards a couple feet.  

    Also, with each new building from here on in (or major structural renovation), mandate that the ice surface is larger.  Not necessarily olympic/international sized, but larger.  Players are way too large and move too efficiently for the size of the ice.  There is very little room.  It may take 50 years for all teams to have the larger ice surface, but when I grew up there was variance, and it ended up dictating teams' styles which was cool.  
    You have some very good ideas.  I do not want international size.  Before the NHL move to mandate large ice surface, I think it would be a good idea to experiment first...which means they would need to construct an ice surface that can be adjusted and tested out in the exhibition, otherwise it's just a guess if it will make the game more exciting...international hockey is boring...Mike Babcock has stated larger ice surface decreases scoring...
    Yes, I do agree that they would need to do some trials.  I do think with the focus being youth and speed, young stars like McDavid, Matthews, Eichel, McKinnon, Dahlin, Marner, etc could really shine.  I sometimes watch old games, and the smaller players, smaller goalies, with 1 ref... plus, an overall slower speed, there just seems to be so much space.  You can really distinguish the good players from the others.  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX3NpyCVRA


    look at all the 'apparent' space as well as how small the goalies appear.

    I honestly would be interested to see how an NHL game would look on an International rink.  I think an overall width increase of 15 feet would be a good thing, and may bring forth more 1 on 1 potential mismatches as Connor McDavid comes bearing down on Dion Phaneuf or some lugnut who would be undressed.
    A friend of mine said to me, and this was about 15- 20 years ago, that the Goalies have so much equipment that they look like the Michelin Man:




    Image result for michelin man



    I posted this way upthread, but:

    Patrick Roy circa 1986


    Patrick Roy 2001


    Not to mention you have larger and faster defenders with larger equipment, all trained to collapse in front of the net to reduce any chance of scoring a clean, not ricochet goal to roughly 0%
    Increase the goal size if there is a safety concern. 
    That's a good idea. How much bigger?
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,259
    Poncier said:
    HAHA>That's pretty much what the Goalies look like now.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    cutz said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    cutz said:
    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree on the equipment, as long as they don't sacrifice protection.  Goalie equipment needs to be minimized where possible.  IMO, they could increase the size of the nets too.... even just a few inches in either direction could make a lot of difference.

    And please do away with stupid, counter-productive "coaches challenges".  All the offsides and goalie interference challenges serve is to drain the game of even more goals and excitement. You cant challenge an incorrect offsides call to get a scoring chance back, it only works 1-way.  In both cases it is unnecessary and cumbersome.  In 35 years of watching hockey, I had never desired anything close to those rules.  Video review should be reduced to: did the puck cross the line?

    Other, more revolutionary things?  Increase the height of the glass in each team's zone, and if not, standardize the netting and make it in play.  Move the net away from the boards a couple feet.  

    Also, with each new building from here on in (or major structural renovation), mandate that the ice surface is larger.  Not necessarily olympic/international sized, but larger.  Players are way too large and move too efficiently for the size of the ice.  There is very little room.  It may take 50 years for all teams to have the larger ice surface, but when I grew up there was variance, and it ended up dictating teams' styles which was cool.  
    You have some very good ideas.  I do not want international size.  Before the NHL move to mandate large ice surface, I think it would be a good idea to experiment first...which means they would need to construct an ice surface that can be adjusted and tested out in the exhibition, otherwise it's just a guess if it will make the game more exciting...international hockey is boring...Mike Babcock has stated larger ice surface decreases scoring...
    Yes, I do agree that they would need to do some trials.  I do think with the focus being youth and speed, young stars like McDavid, Matthews, Eichel, McKinnon, Dahlin, Marner, etc could really shine.  I sometimes watch old games, and the smaller players, smaller goalies, with 1 ref... plus, an overall slower speed, there just seems to be so much space.  You can really distinguish the good players from the others.  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX3NpyCVRA


    look at all the 'apparent' space as well as how small the goalies appear.

    I honestly would be interested to see how an NHL game would look on an International rink.  I think an overall width increase of 15 feet would be a good thing, and may bring forth more 1 on 1 potential mismatches as Connor McDavid comes bearing down on Dion Phaneuf or some lugnut who would be undressed.
    A friend of mine said to me, and this was about 15- 20 years ago, that the Goalies have so much equipment that they look like the Michelin Man:




    Image result for michelin man



    I posted this way upthread, but:

    Patrick Roy circa 1986


    Patrick Roy 2001


    Not to mention you have larger and faster defenders with larger equipment, all trained to collapse in front of the net to reduce any chance of scoring a clean, not ricochet goal to roughly 0%
    Increase the goal size if there is a safety concern. 
    That's a good idea. How much bigger?
    12 to 18 inches?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Can you win a cup with one line? It seems like the Bruins only generate offense from the Bergeron line. 
  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,259
    mrussel1 said:
    cutz said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    cutz said:
    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree on the equipment, as long as they don't sacrifice protection.  Goalie equipment needs to be minimized where possible.  IMO, they could increase the size of the nets too.... even just a few inches in either direction could make a lot of difference.

    And please do away with stupid, counter-productive "coaches challenges".  All the offsides and goalie interference challenges serve is to drain the game of even more goals and excitement. You cant challenge an incorrect offsides call to get a scoring chance back, it only works 1-way.  In both cases it is unnecessary and cumbersome.  In 35 years of watching hockey, I had never desired anything close to those rules.  Video review should be reduced to: did the puck cross the line?

    Other, more revolutionary things?  Increase the height of the glass in each team's zone, and if not, standardize the netting and make it in play.  Move the net away from the boards a couple feet.  

    Also, with each new building from here on in (or major structural renovation), mandate that the ice surface is larger.  Not necessarily olympic/international sized, but larger.  Players are way too large and move too efficiently for the size of the ice.  There is very little room.  It may take 50 years for all teams to have the larger ice surface, but when I grew up there was variance, and it ended up dictating teams' styles which was cool.  
    You have some very good ideas.  I do not want international size.  Before the NHL move to mandate large ice surface, I think it would be a good idea to experiment first...which means they would need to construct an ice surface that can be adjusted and tested out in the exhibition, otherwise it's just a guess if it will make the game more exciting...international hockey is boring...Mike Babcock has stated larger ice surface decreases scoring...
    Yes, I do agree that they would need to do some trials.  I do think with the focus being youth and speed, young stars like McDavid, Matthews, Eichel, McKinnon, Dahlin, Marner, etc could really shine.  I sometimes watch old games, and the smaller players, smaller goalies, with 1 ref... plus, an overall slower speed, there just seems to be so much space.  You can really distinguish the good players from the others.  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX3NpyCVRA


    look at all the 'apparent' space as well as how small the goalies appear.

    I honestly would be interested to see how an NHL game would look on an International rink.  I think an overall width increase of 15 feet would be a good thing, and may bring forth more 1 on 1 potential mismatches as Connor McDavid comes bearing down on Dion Phaneuf or some lugnut who would be undressed.
    A friend of mine said to me, and this was about 15- 20 years ago, that the Goalies have so much equipment that they look like the Michelin Man:




    Image result for michelin man



    I posted this way upthread, but:

    Patrick Roy circa 1986


    Patrick Roy 2001


    Not to mention you have larger and faster defenders with larger equipment, all trained to collapse in front of the net to reduce any chance of scoring a clean, not ricochet goal to roughly 0%
    Increase the goal size if there is a safety concern. 
    That's a good idea. How much bigger?
    12 to 18 inches?
    Maybe they could try that out in the AHL and some other Minor Leagues to see how it goes.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    cutz said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    cutz said:
    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree on the equipment, as long as they don't sacrifice protection.  Goalie equipment needs to be minimized where possible.  IMO, they could increase the size of the nets too.... even just a few inches in either direction could make a lot of difference.

    And please do away with stupid, counter-productive "coaches challenges".  All the offsides and goalie interference challenges serve is to drain the game of even more goals and excitement. You cant challenge an incorrect offsides call to get a scoring chance back, it only works 1-way.  In both cases it is unnecessary and cumbersome.  In 35 years of watching hockey, I had never desired anything close to those rules.  Video review should be reduced to: did the puck cross the line?

    Other, more revolutionary things?  Increase the height of the glass in each team's zone, and if not, standardize the netting and make it in play.  Move the net away from the boards a couple feet.  

    Also, with each new building from here on in (or major structural renovation), mandate that the ice surface is larger.  Not necessarily olympic/international sized, but larger.  Players are way too large and move too efficiently for the size of the ice.  There is very little room.  It may take 50 years for all teams to have the larger ice surface, but when I grew up there was variance, and it ended up dictating teams' styles which was cool.  
    You have some very good ideas.  I do not want international size.  Before the NHL move to mandate large ice surface, I think it would be a good idea to experiment first...which means they would need to construct an ice surface that can be adjusted and tested out in the exhibition, otherwise it's just a guess if it will make the game more exciting...international hockey is boring...Mike Babcock has stated larger ice surface decreases scoring...
    Yes, I do agree that they would need to do some trials.  I do think with the focus being youth and speed, young stars like McDavid, Matthews, Eichel, McKinnon, Dahlin, Marner, etc could really shine.  I sometimes watch old games, and the smaller players, smaller goalies, with 1 ref... plus, an overall slower speed, there just seems to be so much space.  You can really distinguish the good players from the others.  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX3NpyCVRA


    look at all the 'apparent' space as well as how small the goalies appear.

    I honestly would be interested to see how an NHL game would look on an International rink.  I think an overall width increase of 15 feet would be a good thing, and may bring forth more 1 on 1 potential mismatches as Connor McDavid comes bearing down on Dion Phaneuf or some lugnut who would be undressed.
    A friend of mine said to me, and this was about 15- 20 years ago, that the Goalies have so much equipment that they look like the Michelin Man:




    Image result for michelin man



    I posted this way upthread, but:

    Patrick Roy circa 1986


    Patrick Roy 2001


    Not to mention you have larger and faster defenders with larger equipment, all trained to collapse in front of the net to reduce any chance of scoring a clean, not ricochet goal to roughly 0%
    Increase the goal size if there is a safety concern. 
    That's a good idea. How much bigger?
    12 to 18 inches?
    The NHL has discussed increasing net size...likely the players union would say no ... Goalies have bonuses in their contracts that could be hugely affected by the increased net size, the flip side of that is it would make it easier for forwards to meet their bonuses, so the owners are likely opposed...kind of a catch 22.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    cutz said:
    mrussel1 said:
    cutz said:
    mrussel1 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    cutz said:
    MayDay10 said:
    MayDay10 said:
    I agree on the equipment, as long as they don't sacrifice protection.  Goalie equipment needs to be minimized where possible.  IMO, they could increase the size of the nets too.... even just a few inches in either direction could make a lot of difference.

    And please do away with stupid, counter-productive "coaches challenges".  All the offsides and goalie interference challenges serve is to drain the game of even more goals and excitement. You cant challenge an incorrect offsides call to get a scoring chance back, it only works 1-way.  In both cases it is unnecessary and cumbersome.  In 35 years of watching hockey, I had never desired anything close to those rules.  Video review should be reduced to: did the puck cross the line?

    Other, more revolutionary things?  Increase the height of the glass in each team's zone, and if not, standardize the netting and make it in play.  Move the net away from the boards a couple feet.  

    Also, with each new building from here on in (or major structural renovation), mandate that the ice surface is larger.  Not necessarily olympic/international sized, but larger.  Players are way too large and move too efficiently for the size of the ice.  There is very little room.  It may take 50 years for all teams to have the larger ice surface, but when I grew up there was variance, and it ended up dictating teams' styles which was cool.  
    You have some very good ideas.  I do not want international size.  Before the NHL move to mandate large ice surface, I think it would be a good idea to experiment first...which means they would need to construct an ice surface that can be adjusted and tested out in the exhibition, otherwise it's just a guess if it will make the game more exciting...international hockey is boring...Mike Babcock has stated larger ice surface decreases scoring...
    Yes, I do agree that they would need to do some trials.  I do think with the focus being youth and speed, young stars like McDavid, Matthews, Eichel, McKinnon, Dahlin, Marner, etc could really shine.  I sometimes watch old games, and the smaller players, smaller goalies, with 1 ref... plus, an overall slower speed, there just seems to be so much space.  You can really distinguish the good players from the others.  

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjX3NpyCVRA


    look at all the 'apparent' space as well as how small the goalies appear.

    I honestly would be interested to see how an NHL game would look on an International rink.  I think an overall width increase of 15 feet would be a good thing, and may bring forth more 1 on 1 potential mismatches as Connor McDavid comes bearing down on Dion Phaneuf or some lugnut who would be undressed.
    A friend of mine said to me, and this was about 15- 20 years ago, that the Goalies have so much equipment that they look like the Michelin Man:




    Image result for michelin man



    I posted this way upthread, but:

    Patrick Roy circa 1986


    Patrick Roy 2001


    Not to mention you have larger and faster defenders with larger equipment, all trained to collapse in front of the net to reduce any chance of scoring a clean, not ricochet goal to roughly 0%
    Increase the goal size if there is a safety concern. 
    That's a good idea. How much bigger?
    12 to 18 inches?
    Maybe they could try that out in the AHL and some other Minor Leagues to see how it goes.
    The NHL usually test this stuff in the AHL.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    Bruins came on strong.  Canes need to go back to the uniforms with the flags.
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Goaltending advantage for Bruins is huge in this series, don't see Carolina winning with Mrazek.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Another entertaining game...


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    7 goals.  No need to make the net bigger.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Get_Right said:
    7 goals.  No need to make the net bigger.
    2 EN's, so really 5.  Goals are fun.  Scoring is fun.  Ask the NFL.  
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,134
    mrussel1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    7 goals.  No need to make the net bigger.
    2 EN's, so really 5.  Goals are fun.  Scoring is fun.  Ask the NFL.  
    True. But less is more IMHO. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    Get_Right said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    7 goals.  No need to make the net bigger.
    2 EN's, so really 5.  Goals are fun.  Scoring is fun.  Ask the NFL.  
    True. But less is more IMHO. 
    Bring back "no 2 line passes!"  
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The NHL is never going to increase the size of the nets...they enjoy something that Basketball and Baseball don't...competitive games.  If you wanna shrink goalie equipment, fine...then you need to re-introduce the solid pipes holding the nets in place...if these forwards want to drive to the net full tilt and the goalie has reduced protection, then the players need to know that when you hit the net with your body, it will hurt...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    The NHL is never going to increase the size of the nets...they enjoy something that Basketball and Baseball don't...competitive games.  If you wanna shrink goalie equipment, fine...then you need to re-introduce the solid pipes holding the nets in place...if these forwards want to drive to the net full tilt and the goalie has reduced protection, then the players need to know that when you hit the net with your body, it will hurt...
    You know that won't happen,  and should not.
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    mrussel1 said:
    The NHL is never going to increase the size of the nets...they enjoy something that Basketball and Baseball don't...competitive games.  If you wanna shrink goalie equipment, fine...then you need to re-introduce the solid pipes holding the nets in place...if these forwards want to drive to the net full tilt and the goalie has reduced protection, then the players need to know that when you hit the net with your body, it will hurt...
    You know that won't happen,  and should not.
    I know it won't happen.  The same as they will only tinker with goalie equipment...and there is no way I want the nets increased 12-18 inches as you want...that'll never happen.  You do not like the competitive NHL playoffs.  Hows that NBA garbage working, the best I can tell after game 1...the Celtics were only ever close at opening tip-off, what a wonderful game 6 in Philly...must have been so exciting.  I'll take competitive be NHL playoffs over what the NBA produce...

    There is a reason they have a rules committee...they have studies the net, over and over...they have not changed it.  

    Were you not advocating for bigger ice?  And you want more scoring?  Bigger ice means less scoring and boring European style.  I just got done watching Canada v Finland in an exciting 2-1 game, actually, it was a boring game as most international hockey is...

    Scoring is down partly from the equipment, but mostly because teams play in the system...systems that coach like.  But then again, maybe not, the scoring started to drop as teams added cookie cutter arenas, scoring could be down because there are just not enough quality players to fill 31/32 NHL rosters.  30 years ago, most teams 4th line players now would never be NHL, they'd be in the AHL. 

    There could be any multitude of reasons why scoring is down.

    It's easy for us to sit at home and say make the goalies go back to the early nineties equipment size...but then a bunch of other rules need to be changed back to the day as well...hockey is the fastest game played, goalies need to be protected from these collisions as well.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    mrussel1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    7 goals.  No need to make the net bigger.
    2 EN's, so really 5.  Goals are fun.  Scoring is fun.  Ask the NFL.  
    Only 1 empty netter. 5th goal was scored on Mrazek after they put him back in.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    7 goals.  No need to make the net bigger.
    2 EN's, so really 5.  Goals are fun.  Scoring is fun.  Ask the NFL.  
    Only 1 empty netter. 5th goal was scored on Mrazek after they put him back in.
    Yup.
    I SAW PEARL JAM
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,884
    dankind said:
    Poncier said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Get_Right said:
    7 goals.  No need to make the net bigger.
    2 EN's, so really 5.  Goals are fun.  Scoring is fun.  Ask the NFL.  
    Only 1 empty netter. 5th goal was scored on Mrazek after they put him back in.
    Yup.
    Sorry, I turned it off after the first EN.  Assumed the second.