America's Gun Violence
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cincybearcat said:This shit has to stop. I do not understand how anyone can sit there and do nothing.
I had been moving away from having no go issues when voting....but this one is quickly becoming a new one.
Fuck the NRA. Fuck any idiot that thinks it’s more important for them to have fun then kids to have their lives. Fuck anyone that thinks it’s more I portent to pretend like they can overthrow the government than it is that kids get to grow up, go to school, go to prom and live a normal life.
Fuck ‘em. Stick their guns up their ass. Then let them decide if someone should have the right to pull the fucking trigger and kill someone.
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mrussel1 said:PJPOWER said:Speaking of sad...
https://goldentranscript.net/stories/stem-school-students-walk-out-shooting-vigil-amid-frustration,280428
These kids deserve to vent and be heard well more than politicians and gun control groups. What a slap in the face to the children that thought they were attending a vigil...instead of a political rally.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
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cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
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cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.0 -
tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
How many more school shootings would there need to be to move it from "spin" to reality for you?my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problemhippiemom = goodness0 -
The only reason not to make guns illegal is that there are too many guns out there and only criminals will end up having them. Otherwise, 99.9% of the population does not need to hunt for food, and we can figure out how to control the deer population.
But, regarding “spin”, the schools, workplaces, bars, concerts, etc... getting shot up all the time are happening and are why this “spin” is changing people minds. I say the “spin” is actually a “reality check”.
NRA has human blood on its hands. If you still are a card carrying member that is not voting out the current leadership, you have human blood on your hands.0 -
oftenreading said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
How many more school shootings would there need to be to move it from "spin" to reality for you?0 -
cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problem
Signed,
37 year old who has defied the odds to live this long without owning a gunPost edited by bootlegger10 on0 -
cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problem
My coming into the discussion again was the wording in the poster the man is holding, not about what can, should and won't be done with gun control.0 -
bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problem
Signed,
37 year old who has defied the odds to live this long without owning a gun
Saying that a gun owner wants to shoot someone? Wow. I guess people that join the military dream of killing people too? Or a firefighter loves when a building is burning?
I can only take so many comments like these...0 -
tempo_n_groove said:bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problem
Signed,
37 year old who has defied the odds to live this long without owning a gun
Saying that a gun owner wants to shoot someone? Wow. I guess people that join the military dream of killing people too? Or a firefighter loves when a building is burning?
I can only take so many comments like these...
I have friends who own guns. Only for hunting. they don't long for anything other than hanging out with their manly friends shooting living things and being manly. LOL.
We won't get anywhere with the moderate gun owner crowd if we keep insulting the entire lot.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I do think that anyone that owns a firearm should have training and repeated safety training. If they have refresher courses in everything else you do to be certified in something then I see no reason why you can't do that too.
Liability should be on a gun owner too, not a manufacturer or the safety class. Owning one comes with responsibility, que in H2M's "responsible" quote now please.
Try and get sensible laws passed like I mentioned and there would be more people to maybe, just maybe follow suit.
I don't know maybe I'm delusional?0 -
HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problem
Signed,
37 year old who has defied the odds to live this long without owning a gun
Saying that a gun owner wants to shoot someone? Wow. I guess people that join the military dream of killing people too? Or a firefighter loves when a building is burning?
I can only take so many comments like these...
I have friends who own guns. Only for hunting. they don't long for anything other than hanging out with their manly friends shooting living things and being manly. LOL.
We won't get anywhere with the moderate gun owner crowd if we keep insulting the entire lot.
But the alternative is they love hunting so much that they are willing to sacrifice some kids in the process. So, either you love hunting more than other peoples’ kids, or you are clinging upon all hope that the statistics are wrong and that you will need a gun to kill someone even if that means kids have to go to school fearing their school will be next.
I was wondering if some people just don’t get angry about stuff, but I guess being accused of wanting to shoot someone is the bright line. Kids getting shot up on schools though isn’t enough to get a reaction out of some people.
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tempo_n_groove said:I do think that anyone that owns a firearm should have training and repeated safety training. If they have refresher courses in everything else you do to be certified in something then I see no reason why you can't do that too.
Liability should be on a gun owner too, not a manufacturer or the safety class. Owning one comes with responsibility, que in H2M's "responsible" quote now please.
Try and get sensible laws passed like I mentioned and there would be more people to maybe, just maybe follow suit.
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bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problem
Signed,
37 year old who has defied the odds to live this long without owning a gun
Saying that a gun owner wants to shoot someone? Wow. I guess people that join the military dream of killing people too? Or a firefighter loves when a building is burning?
I can only take so many comments like these...
I have friends who own guns. Only for hunting. they don't long for anything other than hanging out with their manly friends shooting living things and being manly. LOL.
We won't get anywhere with the moderate gun owner crowd if we keep insulting the entire lot.
But the alternative is they love hunting so much that they are willing to sacrifice some kids in the process. So, either you love hunting more than other peoples’ kids, or you are clinging upon all hope that the statistics are wrong and that you will need a gun to kill someone even if that means kids have to go to school fearing their school will be next.
I was wondering if some people just don’t get angry about stuff, but I guess being accused of wanting to shoot someone is the bright line. Kids getting shot up on schools though isn’t enough to get a reaction out of some people.
First sentence says it all so what are we doing here?
I do agree with you that sometimes people do not get angry at things. People whom are, motivate and organize to make change and that is how things get done.
Certain things don't get me angry and I don't understand why it does for others but I guess that is their passion?0 -
tempo_n_groove said:bootlegger10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:tempo_n_groove said:bootlegger10 said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:cincybearcat said:tempo_n_groove said:mickeyrat said:
We act like going to school here is the same as in Israel or some other war torn country, it's not.
Insert "school children" with any other type of person you'd like and it would fit and still be spin, be it police, military, clergy men, take your pick.
It's spin on a situation that the author and a bunch of you apparently agree with which is a shame. This is what good propaganda and press does to manipulate a way of thinking.
Coming on here always bothers me and I forget that. I really need to stay off here...
Happy Friday everyone.
But the reality is we Us we have a gun problem in the US. And we have a powerful organization that wants people to fear the government and do whatever it takes, even when that involves putting children at school at risk, putting people in the workplace at risk, putting people at movies at risk, putting people at concerts at risk, to keep their guns and unlimited ammo.
When your stance on gun control in the face of this reality is to not even budge a little. Then you (the general you) are the problem. To have an incident of any type and not do anything to prevent future instances is to be negligent and part of the problem
Signed,
37 year old who has defied the odds to live this long without owning a gun
Saying that a gun owner wants to shoot someone? Wow. I guess people that join the military dream of killing people too? Or a firefighter loves when a building is burning?
I can only take so many comments like these...
I have friends who own guns. Only for hunting. they don't long for anything other than hanging out with their manly friends shooting living things and being manly. LOL.
We won't get anywhere with the moderate gun owner crowd if we keep insulting the entire lot.
But the alternative is they love hunting so much that they are willing to sacrifice some kids in the process. So, either you love hunting more than other peoples’ kids, or you are clinging upon all hope that the statistics are wrong and that you will need a gun to kill someone even if that means kids have to go to school fearing their school will be next.
I was wondering if some people just don’t get angry about stuff, but I guess being accused of wanting to shoot someone is the bright line. Kids getting shot up on schools though isn’t enough to get a reaction out of some people.
First sentence says it all so what are we doing here?
I do agree with you that sometimes people do not get angry at things. People whom are, motivate and organize to make change and that is how things get done.
Certain things don't get me angry and I don't understand why it does for others but I guess that is their passion?0
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