America's Gun Violence

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others- Trump or McCartney?

    yeah, that game doesn't work. 
    Yeah, pretty lame.  Someone could ask “Who would admit to masturbating in a room full of other dudes and ordering hookers in Vegas?” 
    Oh yeah, Paul McCartney did...
    btw, I still love McCartney regardless of his transgressions.

    hahaha, never heard about that. 
    It is a humorous read :)
    https://globalnews.ca/news/4440746/paul-mccartney-sex-stories-gq-interview/
    “Come together” lol

        


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others- Trump or McCartney?

    yeah, that game doesn't work. 
    Yeah, pretty lame.  Someone could ask “Who would admit to masturbating in a room full of other dudes and ordering hookers in Vegas?” 
    Oh yeah, Paul McCartney did...
    btw, I still love McCartney regardless of his transgressions.

    You consider those transgressions? Why? Consenting adults and all. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    “Responsible” gun owner being “responsible.” Again.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/30/us/iowa-former-student-shot-and-killed-highway/index.html
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others

    So that’s a “both” on that front.  How about “Who would you be more likely to see listening to Neil Young”?  
    This game is actually kind of fun Spiritual :)
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    So much “responsibility.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/crime-law/2019/04/30/lesson-gun-safety-ends-when-man-accidentally-shoots-his-year-old-daughter/
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others

    So that’s a “both” on that front.  How about “Who would you be more likely to see listening to Neal Young”?  
    This game is actually kind of fun Spiritual :)
    Who the hell is Neal Young.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others

    So that’s a “both” on that front.  How about “Who would you be more likely to see listening to Neal Young”?  
    This game is actually kind of fun Spiritual :)
    Who the hell is Neal Young.

    Neal S. Young


    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_S._Young
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others

    lol, I knew this was going to be the response. see, the difference is, you get INVITED to an event, you eat what is served to you. you WORK for McCartney,  you are not allowed to eat anything that isn't plant based. that's a big difference. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited April 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others

    lol, I knew this was going to be the response. see, the difference is, you get INVITED to an event, you eat what is served to you. you WORK for McCartney,  you are not allowed to eat anything that isn't plant based. that's a big difference. 
    So don't work for a man who chooses not to support the unnecessary slaughter of other living beings. If you aren't able to see his commendable way of living.

    Go work for Ted Nugent instead. 

    Swedens biggest music festival Way Out West (which you might remember from "Neal Young" tearing up the place in 2008*) doesn't allow meat to be sold on the festival area. Is that also wrong?

    * reference:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fbUHBR0r9Y


    :)

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    being forced to eat a certain way at your job is not, in any way, the same as having the choice of going to a festival and only having certain foods available for purchase. 

    i have no issue with vegans. "commendable". a bit self-righteous? 

    anyway, back to guns. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    edited April 2019
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    being forced to eat a certain way at your job is not, in any way, the same as having the choice of going to a festival and only having certain foods available for purchase. 

    i have no issue with vegans. "commendable". a bit self-righteous? 

    anyway, back to guns. 
    I don't know what agreement they have. But if it is in in like Pauls home I think he has every right to decide what's allowed there.

    If he's peaking through the windows at night to control what  his gardener eats, that's another story. 

    But I don't know anything about it. I couldn't even tell you all the songs on Rubber Sould in order.

    The main point is - a greenhouse is better than a hunting cabin. And Paul luckily, is no Glorified G.

    Haha.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    I'm pretty McCartney is not controlling what his employees eat on their own dime...I remember a tour a few years back that he was only serving plant-based food to his staff to set up the concert...that would be his choice since he is the one paying for the catering...
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    I'm pretty McCartney is not controlling what his employees eat on their own dime...I remember a tour a few years back that he was only serving plant-based food to his staff to set up the concert...that would be his choice since he is the one paying for the catering...
    Yes, exactly. When he pays he can control what is served.  Those who don’t want to eat the vegan catering can get their own food. I have read that he forbids animal products backstage at his shows, but staff can eat them in the rest of the venue. 

    And I have not been able to find anything that says what the ask is for regular employees (which I assume he has), but I’m certain he isn’t sending investigators to their homes or watching them out at restaurants. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    I'm pretty McCartney is not controlling what his employees eat on their own dime...I remember a tour a few years back that he was only serving plant-based food to his staff to set up the concert...that would be his choice since he is the one paying for the catering...
    Yes, exactly. When he pays he can control what is served.  Those who don’t want to eat the vegan catering can get their own food. I have read that he forbids animal products backstage at his shows, but staff can eat them in the rest of the venue. 

    And I have not been able to find anything that says what the ask is for regular employees (which I assume he has), but I’m certain he isn’t sending investigators to their homes or watching them out at restaurants. 
    haha, I didn't claim he did that (your last sentence). But if he's paying for it, obviously, that's another story. i wasn't talking specifically about catering. My impression was that he forbade any animal from being consumed on the property while they were under his employ. that would be akin to the president of my company telling me I can't have a bologna sandwich on my lunch break. But maybe my details are incorrect. this was back in the mid 90's when he came here on tour there was some hubub about it. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 40,118
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    being forced to eat a certain way at your job is not, in any way, the same as having the choice of going to a festival and only having certain foods available for purchase. 

    i have no issue with vegans. "commendable". a bit self-righteous? 

    anyway, back to guns. 
    I don't know what agreement they have. But if it is in in like Pauls home I think he has every right to decide what's allowed there.

    If he's peaking through the windows at night to control what  his gardener eats, that's another story. 

    But I don't know anything about it. I couldn't even tell you all the songs on Rubber Sould in order.

    The main point is - a greenhouse is better than a hunting cabin. And Paul luckily, is no Glorified G.

    Haha.
    not his home. on tour. 
    Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer



  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,675
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    being forced to eat a certain way at your job is not, in any way, the same as having the choice of going to a festival and only having certain foods available for purchase. 

    i have no issue with vegans. "commendable". a bit self-righteous? 

    anyway, back to guns. 
    I don't know what agreement they have. But if it is in in like Pauls home I think he has every right to decide what's allowed there.

    If he's peaking through the windows at night to control what  his gardener eats, that's another story. 

    But I don't know anything about it. I couldn't even tell you all the songs on Rubber Sould in order.

    The main point is - a greenhouse is better than a hunting cabin. And Paul luckily, is no Glorified G.

    Haha.
    not his home. on tour. 
    Where he lays his head is home.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    You can always use the popular game kids play "Who would - Trump or McCartney?" and if the answer is Trump, don't do it.

    Who would build a wall for racist reasons - Trump or McCartney? Trump. Ah, ok then do not build a wall for racist reasons.

    Who would own a Pearl Jam album - Trump or McCartney? McCartney. Ah ok, then do buy a Pearl Jam album (Riot Act).

    Who would own a hunting cabin - Trump or McCartney?
    Who forces their staff to eat the same things they do, forcing their beliefs on others

    So that’s a “both” on that front.  How about “Who would you be more likely to see listening to Neal Young”?  
    This game is actually kind of fun Spiritual :)
    Who the hell is Neal Young.
    It’s not my fault you quoted me before I proof read, lol. Wasn’t that your line?   And stop being dense...
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2019
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    being forced to eat a certain way at your job is not, in any way, the same as having the choice of going to a festival and only having certain foods available for purchase. 

    i have no issue with vegans. "commendable". a bit self-righteous? 

    anyway, back to guns. 
    I don't know what agreement they have. But if it is in in like Pauls home I think he has every right to decide what's allowed there.

    If he's peaking through the windows at night to control what  his gardener eats, that's another story. 

    But I don't know anything about it. I couldn't even tell you all the songs on Rubber Sould in order.

    The main point is - a greenhouse is better than a hunting cabin. And Paul luckily, is no Glorified G.

    Haha.
    I’ll take both please!  I like a nice salad with my venison steak!
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    I'm pretty McCartney is not controlling what his employees eat on their own dime...I remember a tour a few years back that he was only serving plant-based food to his staff to set up the concert...that would be his choice since he is the one paying for the catering...
    Yes, exactly. When he pays he can control what is served.  Those who don’t want to eat the vegan catering can get their own food. I have read that he forbids animal products backstage at his shows, but staff can eat them in the rest of the venue. 

    And I have not been able to find anything that says what the ask is for regular employees (which I assume he has), but I’m certain he isn’t sending investigators to their homes or watching them out at restaurants. 
    haha, I didn't claim he did that (your last sentence). But if he's paying for it, obviously, that's another story. i wasn't talking specifically about catering. My impression was that he forbade any animal from being consumed on the property while they were under his employ. that would be akin to the president of my company telling me I can't have a bologna sandwich on my lunch break. But maybe my details are incorrect. this was back in the mid 90's when he came here on tour there was some hubub about it. 
    I believe your details are incorrect, from what I’ve read. No animal products backstage while he’s on tour. 

    I don't know, but I suspect that an employer might be able to say no animal products in their offices. You would of course be free to leave the premises and eat your bologna elsewhere. 
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