Is America the greatest country in the world?

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?

I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.

Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.

What exactly is the rudeness in taking them off as the normal?

Many people in here are awfully black and whit (not saying you are), I guess that comes with being draped in the flag and therefore lacking critical thinking -  I don't think anyone stops anyone from having the shoes on if they are to run in and catch the car keys they forgot or just gonna pop in quickly with the groceries they helped carry. Or even a new years eve party when @PJ_Soul comes with her high heels matching the dress.

But there is no logic in walking around in outdoor shoes inside your or your friends houses. It's not a Europe or Sweden VS US thing. It's about normal VS absurd.

Never said it was rude or unnormal to take them off.  I said it was trivial, as in, it doesn't make a difference nor is it absurd either way.

EDIT: And I posed the question of what exactly makes it rude.  I'm trying to understand because it doesn't make much sense to me to be uptight one way or the other about it.

of course it's trivial. it all comes down to cultural norms. if you weirdos want to vacuum your house on the daily, go for it. /s

many have answered why it is considered rude in our culture(s). 

Conversely, if I wear socks or go barefoot inside the bottoms of my socks or feet get dirty.  So it's not like carpets and floors don't already harbor their own dirt & debris.  I vacuum & broom sweep about every two weeks, seems to work out well enough.  :i_dunno:  Vacuuming every day would definitely classify someone as a weirdo, though! (also /s)

Bottom line is, respect the homeowner's wishes.  I'm certainly not trying to argue a for-or-against point, I just don't think it's a big deal whereas I know some people are super strict about it (which is weird to me).

But, would you say there is some kind of difference between the dust that is being created in your sock-walking home and the dirt and stuff that's under the shoes you've been walking in at Burger King, the gun ranch, the strip mall, the gravel road to the pet sematary, Etc?

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?

I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.

Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.

What exactly is the rudeness in taking them off as the normal?

Many people in here are awfully black and whit (not saying you are), I guess that comes with being draped in the flag and therefore lacking critical thinking -  I don't think anyone stops anyone from having the shoes on if they are to run in and catch the car keys they forgot or just gonna pop in quickly with the groceries they helped carry. Or even a new years eve party when @PJ_Soul comes with her high heels matching the dress.

But there is no logic in walking around in outdoor shoes inside your or your friends houses. It's not a Europe or Sweden VS US thing. It's about normal VS absurd.

Never said it was rude or unnormal to take them off.  I said it was trivial, as in, it doesn't make a difference nor is it absurd either way.

EDIT: And I posed the question of what exactly makes it rude.  I'm trying to understand because it doesn't make much sense to me to be uptight one way or the other about it.

of course it's trivial. it all comes down to cultural norms. if you weirdos want to vacuum your house on the daily, go for it. /s

many have answered why it is considered rude in our culture(s). 

Conversely, if I wear socks or go barefoot inside the bottoms of my socks or feet get dirty.  So it's not like carpets and floors don't already harbor their own dirt & debris.  I vacuum & broom sweep about every two weeks, seems to work out well enough.  :i_dunno:  Vacuuming every day would definitely classify someone as a weirdo, though! (also /s)

Bottom line is, respect the homeowner's wishes.  I'm certainly not trying to argue a for-or-against point, I just don't think it's a big deal whereas I know some people are super strict about it (which is weird to me).

But, would you say there is some kind of difference between the dust that is being created in your sock-walking home and the dirt and stuff that's under the shoes you've been walking in at Burger King, the gun ranch, the strip mall, the gravel road to the pet sematary, Etc?

“Take your shoes off sir”

“Awww, shit, put them back on”

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PJPOWER said:

my2hands said:

Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes

Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!

"Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "

That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!

Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie.  

And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?

So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.

You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.

False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
complex, but that is just me...

again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 

Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 

it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 

You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!

I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I would find it incredibly rude if people came over to my house and kept their shoes on, part of an "ensemble" or not. that's some pretentious sex and the city shit right there. I've never seen one example of that, like, ever, in my adult life. when teens would have a big shaker, of course you leave your shoes on or you risk them being stolen or tossed in the toilet. 

I see old people do it, but that's for support, and they have separate pairs for indoors so they don't make a mess. 

jesus, we walk into someone's cottage and you'd get looked at weird if you left your shoes on. 

You've never seen a woman wearing her heels at a party? Really? Weird.

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

HesCalledDyer said:

What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?

I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.

Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.

What exactly is the rudeness in taking them off as the normal?

Many people in here are awfully black and whit (not saying you are), I guess that comes with being draped in the flag and therefore lacking critical thinking -  I don't think anyone stops anyone from having the shoes on if they are to run in and catch the car keys they forgot or just gonna pop in quickly with the groceries they helped carry. Or even a new years eve party when @PJ_Soul comes with her high heels matching the dress.

But there is no logic in walking around in outdoor shoes inside your or your friends houses. It's not a Europe or Sweden VS US thing. It's about normal VS absurd.

Never said it was rude or unnormal to take them off.  I said it was trivial, as in, it doesn't make a difference nor is it absurd either way.

EDIT: And I posed the question of what exactly makes it rude.  I'm trying to understand because it doesn't make much sense to me to be uptight one way or the other about it.

of course it's trivial. it all comes down to cultural norms. if you weirdos want to vacuum your house on the daily, go for it. /s

many have answered why it is considered rude in our culture(s). 

Conversely, if I wear socks or go barefoot inside the bottoms of my socks or feet get dirty.  So it's not like carpets and floors don't already harbor their own dirt & debris.  I vacuum & broom sweep about every two weeks, seems to work out well enough.  :i_dunno:  Vacuuming every day would definitely classify someone as a weirdo, though! (also /s)

Bottom line is, respect the homeowner's wishes.  I'm certainly not trying to argue a for-or-against point, I just don't think it's a big deal whereas I know some people are super strict about it (which is weird to me).

But, would you say there is some kind of difference between the dust that is being created in your sock-walking home and the dirt and stuff that's under the shoes you've been walking in at Burger King, the gun ranch, the strip mall, the gravel road to the pet sematary, Etc?

tbergs said:

HesCalledDyer said:

What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?

I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.

Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.

Question for you, have you ever thought about all the places those shoes have been before they walk all over the inside of your place? I mean, think about public restrooms, gas stations, any store, the county fair, bars and on and on. Yuck! You might as well quit washing your hands while you're at it because you've already spread any form of bacteria and virus possible with those lovely shoes. Would you also wear the clothes you had on all day to bed?

I can't believe people don't see the issue someone would have if you want to wear your shoes all over their home.