Is America the greatest country in the world?

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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
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    PJPOWER said:
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    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    So if you had people over for a get together you'd asked them to take their shoes off?
    i don't have to ask. it is just done. I've never had to ask one single adult ever to do it. and if someone brings their kid over and they forget, the parent tells them to take their shoes off. 

    it is customary for a party to have a big pile of shoes by the back door that you have to wade through as you leave. LOL
    That’s nasty as hell.  I can’t imagine a bunch of barefoot people walking around at a party.  

    they aren't barefoot. people wear socks in canada. 
    Hey baby, nice socks. lol
    I can honestly say I have never been to a party where I had to take off my shoes.  Imagine if you had a hole in your sock!
    Hell Americans even wear their shoes in the pool!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household  by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last paragraph , but thanks for the laugh!  

    so this is how it works?

    americans think america is the best country in the world-you're right
    non-americans think their country is better (but not necessarily the greatest)-they have an inferiority complex

    do I have that right?
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    So if you had people over for a get together you'd asked them to take their shoes off?
    i don't have to ask. it is just done. I've never had to ask one single adult ever to do it. and if someone brings their kid over and they forget, the parent tells them to take their shoes off. 

    it is customary for a party to have a big pile of shoes by the back door that you have to wade through as you leave. LOL
    That’s nasty as hell.  I can’t imagine a bunch of barefoot people walking around at a party.  

    they aren't barefoot. people wear socks in canada. 
    Hey baby, nice socks. lol
    I can honestly say I have never been to a party where I had to take off my shoes.  Imagine if you had a hole in your sock!
    Hell Americans even wear their shoes in the pool!
    they what???
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,834
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household  by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last paragraph , but thanks for the laugh!  

    so this is how it works?

    americans think america is the best country in the world-you're right
    non-americans think their country is better (but not necessarily the greatest)-they have an inferiority complex

    do I have that right?
    Have you even read this thread?  Just picking on one of the few that aren't just about hating on America here???  Seems strange Hugh.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household  by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last paragraph , but thanks for the laugh!  

    so this is how it works?

    americans think america is the best country in the world-you're right
    non-americans think their country is better (but not necessarily the greatest)-they have an inferiority complex

    do I have that right?
    Have you even read this thread?  Just picking on one of the few that aren't just about hating on America here???  Seems strange Hugh.
    i'm not picking on anyone. I'm trying to understand the line of thinking. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    So if you had people over for a get together you'd asked them to take their shoes off?
    i don't have to ask. it is just done. I've never had to ask one single adult ever to do it. and if someone brings their kid over and they forget, the parent tells them to take their shoes off. 

    it is customary for a party to have a big pile of shoes by the back door that you have to wade through as you leave. LOL
    That’s nasty as hell.  I can’t imagine a bunch of barefoot people walking around at a party.  

    they aren't barefoot. people wear socks in canada. 
    Hey baby, nice socks. lol
    I can honestly say I have never been to a party where I had to take off my shoes.  Imagine if you had a hole in your sock!
    Hell Americans even wear their shoes in the pool!
    they what???
    Canadians don't have pool shoes?  What about ocean shoes?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    I have $20 that says the average Swede is more racist than the average American 

    Can you even get a taco in that lilly white socialist shithole? Lol
    You comes off as someone who's been left by Axl Rose on the bed with your ass in the air.
    What??? Bwahahahaha 

    Tells me i'm right

    Do you know three people of color on a first name basis? How about one? Lol
    Yes. I even helped out one just now with Powerpoint. A woman @mcgruff10 - me and her all alone in an office, sure hoped she called her boyfriend/husband before to see that it was okey. No chaperones used when men and women interact in Sweden. Crazy.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    So if you had people over for a get together you'd asked them to take their shoes off?
    i don't have to ask. it is just done. I've never had to ask one single adult ever to do it. and if someone brings their kid over and they forget, the parent tells them to take their shoes off. 

    it is customary for a party to have a big pile of shoes by the back door that you have to wade through as you leave. LOL
    That’s nasty as hell.  I can’t imagine a bunch of barefoot people walking around at a party.  

    they aren't barefoot. people wear socks in canada. 
    Hey baby, nice socks. lol
    I can honestly say I have never been to a party where I had to take off my shoes.  Imagine if you had a hole in your sock!
    Hell Americans even wear their shoes in the pool!
    they what???
    Canadians don't have pool shoes?  What about ocean shoes?
    oh, haha, I thought you meant actual shoes. yes, we have shoes people (mostly kids) wear at the beach and in the water. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?
    I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.
    Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    So if you had people over for a get together you'd asked them to take their shoes off?
    i don't have to ask. it is just done. I've never had to ask one single adult ever to do it. and if someone brings their kid over and they forget, the parent tells them to take their shoes off. 

    it is customary for a party to have a big pile of shoes by the back door that you have to wade through as you leave. LOL
    That’s nasty as hell.  I can’t imagine a bunch of barefoot people walking around at a party.  

    they aren't barefoot. people wear socks in canada. 
    Hey baby, nice socks. lol
    I can honestly say I have never been to a party where I had to take off my shoes.  Imagine if you had a hole in your sock!
    Hell Americans even wear their shoes in the pool!
    How about not having a hole in your sock.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
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    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    So if you had people over for a get together you'd asked them to take their shoes off?
    i don't have to ask. it is just done. I've never had to ask one single adult ever to do it. and if someone brings their kid over and they forget, the parent tells them to take their shoes off. 

    it is customary for a party to have a big pile of shoes by the back door that you have to wade through as you leave. LOL
    That’s nasty as hell.  I can’t imagine a bunch of barefoot people walking around at a party.  

    they aren't barefoot. people wear socks in canada. 
    Hey baby, nice socks. lol
    I can honestly say I have never been to a party where I had to take off my shoes.  Imagine if you had a hole in your sock!
    Hell Americans even wear their shoes in the pool!
    they what???
    Canadians don't have pool shoes?  What about ocean shoes?
    oh, haha, I thought you meant actual shoes. yes, we have shoes people (mostly kids) wear at the beach and in the water. 
    I"m just messing with you bud. lol

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    my2hands said:
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    I have $20 that says the average Swede is more racist than the average American 

    Can you even get a taco in that lilly white socialist shithole? Lol
    You comes off as someone who's been left by Axl Rose on the bed with your ass in the air.
    What??? Bwahahahaha 

    Tells me i'm right

    Do you know three people of color on a first name basis? How about one? Lol
    Yes. I even helped out one just now with Powerpoint. A woman @mcgruff10 - me and her all alone in an office, sure hoped she called her boyfriend/husband before to see that it was okey. No chaperones used when men and women interact in Sweden. Crazy.

    You were probably not really a threat to her hence the reason for the no call to the boyfriend/husband.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?
    I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.
    Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.
    No, there’s a practical reason. The shoes you wear outside have dirt on them, even on a dry day. No need to overthink it. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
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    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    Hell, I’ve been to Canada and two out of the three houses I visited were shoe wearing indoors.
    maybe providencial as to the “standard”?
    where?
    Vancouver area
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    mcgruff10 said:
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    I have $20 that says the average Swede is more racist than the average American 

    Can you even get a taco in that lilly white socialist shithole? Lol
    You comes off as someone who's been left by Axl Rose on the bed with your ass in the air.
    What??? Bwahahahaha 

    Tells me i'm right

    Do you know three people of color on a first name basis? How about one? Lol
    Yes. I even helped out one just now with Powerpoint. A woman @mcgruff10 - me and her all alone in an office, sure hoped she called her boyfriend/husband before to see that it was okey. No chaperones used when men and women interact in Sweden. Crazy.

    You were probably not really a threat to her hence the reason for the no call to the boyfriend/husband.  
    Exactly.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?
    I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.
    Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.
    no, it's not the same as a hat (which I have argued on the opposite end-I say leave your hat on for all I care). and no, it's not a "what i was taught" thing. a hat doesn't track dirt through your house. it doesn't matter if it's a dry day. there's dry dirt/dust that you are tracking through my house. it is inevitable that this would be the case. 

    that being said, if someone is just stopping by for a sec and needs to come into my house, I'll make a point of telling them to leave their shoes on. but taking them off for a visit is just part of "making yourself comfortable". 

    even when someone is helping me move a couch, or even a professional mover, you'll see them fumbling to try to take their shoes off while balancing the couch in their hands. in almost all cases (barring a bunch of mud on their shoes) I'll laugh and tell them to leave them on. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
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    my2hands said:
    my2hands said:
    I have $20 that says the average Swede is more racist than the average American 

    Can you even get a taco in that lilly white socialist shithole? Lol
    You comes off as someone who's been left by Axl Rose on the bed with your ass in the air.
    What??? Bwahahahaha 

    Tells me i'm right
    You're way out of line. With your bitch slap rapping, and your cocaine tongue.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    PJPOWER said:
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    Nobody cares what Sweden does, especially with their shoes
    Norway is better than Sweden...just sayin’.  
    And fuck that fika, I’ll take my coffee to go!
    "Norwegians are so adamant about their “no shoes inside” policy, they even enforce it at primary schools—so that children learn it from a young age. "
    That has no relevance to what I just said...Why are you hung up on shoes?  But if shoe wearing is your measure, Norway is definitely way ahead of Sweden!
    Because the context of this threads discussion is for the moment different shoe-wearing cultures. Get a grip on how social situations work and how to act within them Cruzie. :) 

    And yes, I bet Norway does a lot better than Sweden. Where is the conflict in that?
    So you must agree that Norway is better than Sweden since they push taking shoes off more.  I don’t have to worry too much about awkward social situations here, as people in general are pleasant with each other and enjoy socializing out in public.  I couldn’t handle the Swede’s social awkwardness...just sounds snobby.
    You're creating some false narrative here to back me into a corner. What has "pushing harder" to do with anything. 

    I would think - in the context of shoewearing - that Norway is similar to Sweden -- "it is absurd to wear your outdoor shoes inside your house". 

    And seems all sane people in this thread agree. Regardless of where they're from.
    False narrative?  Nothing false about Norway being the better country overall...especially in the shoe wearing contex...Tell me again, what culture is it weird or outside of the cultural norm to take shoes off indoors?  Seems that YOU are the one creating a false narrative...pretty “pedi” if you ask me, lol. (Pedi/ petty). I take my shoes off indoors, but personally, I’d rather have a shoe wearer in my house than a snobby Swede with an inferiority
    complex, but that is just me...
    again, I, nor anyone I know, ever wears shoes indoors, unless it's a separate pair specifically for that purpose. 
    Exactly, so do many I know in this not greatest country in the world, but it wouldn’t bug me either way if someone did...unless they had dog shit on their shoes or something.  It would probably be best if some people left their shoes on, though.  There are some nasty footed people out there and I would rather a place not smell like unhygienic feet, lol 
    it would bug me. I find it rude. it's not snobby at all. it's just rude to walk into someone's house and leave your shoes on.

    and I don't understand why people keep saying he has an inferiority complex. if anything, it's the opposite (which I also don't believe). 
    You find it rude, but as others have stated, it is household by household.  I’ll agree to disagree with the last part, but thanks for the laugh!
    I think one person stated it is household by household. I have never been to any canadian's house where people leave their shoes on. NOT. ONE. 
    Hell, I’ve been to Canada and two out of the three houses I visited were shoe wearing indoors.
    maybe providencial as to the “standard”?
    where?
    Vancouver area
    that's odd to me. I have friends in vancouver, and in any pictures of them having people over, I have never seen one shoe. 
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    I dunno, we'd have to do a Mythbusters-type experiment but I'd venture to guess my shoes are picking up more dust, dander, & dirt particles than they are leaving behind.  Even if not, the amount left behind has to be so negligible the human eye would not be able to discern.  It's not like you're leaving visible footprints of a layer of dirt behind with each step.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited April 2019
    What exactly is this "rudeness" of leaving your shoes on?  How exactly does that insult the homeowner or what about it makes the homeowner feel offended other than "it's just what you do?"  This is another one of those trivial, old-timey, customary tradition things that, when you really think about it, probably had a meaning centuries ago but makes no sense in modern times.  Like taking your hat off indoors.  Who the fuck is bothered by leaving a hat on?
    I mean, obviously, if you have mud, snow, poop, or paint etc on your shoes, you don't want to track it all through the place.  I get that.  But if it's a clear, dry day or you're only stopping by for a few minutes what does it really matter?  And obviously, if the homeowner asks, I'm not going to defy them. Honestly, I usually ask anyway because I know people do take offense to it.  But it's just weird to me to say that it's rude without even really thinking about why it's rude, other than "that's what I was taught" etc.
    Me, personally, I couldn't care less if you leave them on in my house.
    What exactly is the rudeness in taking them off as the normal?

    Many people in here are awfully black and whit (not saying you are), I guess that comes with being draped in the flag and therefore lacking critical thinking -  I don't think anyone stops anyone from having the shoes on if they are to run in and catch the car keys they forgot or just gonna pop in quickly with the groceries they helped carry. Or even a new years eve party when @PJ_Soul comes with her high heels matching the dress.

    But there is no logic in walking around in outdoor shoes inside your or your friends houses. It's not a Europe or Sweden VS US thing. It's about normal VS absurd.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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