America's Gun Violence
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lived in the city all my life. never locked the doors in my house when awake or not showering. don't see a need. especially in the summer, when I'm in and out of the house a lot, I can't be bothered to be constantly locking and unlocking the door.PJ_Soul said:
I think if I lived in a house I'd probably keep the door locked too, just as someone who lives alone. I'm not paranoid, but why not take that extra precaution, since it takes no effort?HughFreakingDillon said:
so did I when I lived in an apartment. I was speaking about living in my house.PJ_Soul said:
I keep my door locked when home. I worry about someone accidentally walking into the wrong apartment. It's actually happened to me once.HughFreakingDillon said:
isn't that how it works everywhere? or do you keep your doors locked when home? the only time my doors are locked at home is when i'm sleeping or in the shower.tempo_n_groove said:
You and a few others have made me realize how to figure out if someone in Canada isn't home, just check the door.PJ_Soul said:
Instead of locking doors, my parents used to keep a light on inside, turn the radio on, and post a beware of dog sign on the door. We never had a dog, lol.PJPOWER said:
That’s why you get a dog, people will rarely break into places with a dog barking at them. Those schizophrenia inducing cats won’t protect shit!PJ_Soul said:
No it's not. Almost all burglaries are undertaken when nobody is home. So the concern about guns being stolen is a realistic one, while the fear of being invaded while the homeowner is actually there so that they can defend themselves with a gun is not so much. But FWIW, I don't think keeping ammo separate from guns has anything to do with gun theft.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great pointPJPOWER said:This is getting a bit silly. People say that no one needs quick access to a firearm and say that it is “fear” driving them to think someone will break into their house (some say they don’t even lock their doors). And then in the same breath people are “afraid” of a criminal breaking into someone’s house and stealing their guns and ammo that are stored together in a secure vault? Lol. Do we fear people breaking in or not???
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Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends
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"Instead of locking doors" so... Unlocked means you are home.PJ_Soul said:
Huh? That's not the case...tempo_n_groove said:
You and a few others have made me realize how to figure out if someone in Canada isn't home, just check the door.PJ_Soul said:
Instead of locking doors, my parents used to keep a light on inside, turn the radio on, and post a beware of dog sign on the door. We never had a dog, lol.PJPOWER said:
That’s why you get a dog, people will rarely break into places with a dog barking at them. Those schizophrenia inducing cats won’t protect shit!PJ_Soul said:
No it's not. Almost all burglaries are undertaken when nobody is home. So the concern about guns being stolen is a realistic one, while the fear of being invaded while the homeowner is actually there so that they can defend themselves with a gun is not so much. But FWIW, I don't think keeping ammo separate from guns has anything to do with gun theft.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great pointPJPOWER said:This is getting a bit silly. People say that no one needs quick access to a firearm and say that it is “fear” driving them to think someone will break into their house (some say they don’t even lock their doors). And then in the same breath people are “afraid” of a criminal breaking into someone’s house and stealing their guns and ammo that are stored together in a secure vault? Lol. Do we fear people breaking in or not???
Locked=not home
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It's different for women I think, but I'm not talking about being manic about it. I don't mean locking the door every single time you go inside, even if you're going in and out. Like, nobody is going out to the deck to flip' the burgers and then coming back in and locking the door behind them until the meat's done, lol. I'm just talking about when you're in and staying in.HughFreakingDillon said:
lived in the city all my life. never locked the doors in my house when awake or not showering. don't see a need. especially in the summer, when I'm in and out of the house a lot, I can't be bothered to be constantly locking and unlocking the door.PJ_Soul said:
I think if I lived in a house I'd probably keep the door locked too, just as someone who lives alone. I'm not paranoid, but why not take that extra precaution, since it takes no effort?HughFreakingDillon said:
so did I when I lived in an apartment. I was speaking about living in my house.PJ_Soul said:
I keep my door locked when home. I worry about someone accidentally walking into the wrong apartment. It's actually happened to me once.HughFreakingDillon said:
isn't that how it works everywhere? or do you keep your doors locked when home? the only time my doors are locked at home is when i'm sleeping or in the shower.tempo_n_groove said:
You and a few others have made me realize how to figure out if someone in Canada isn't home, just check the door.PJ_Soul said:
Instead of locking doors, my parents used to keep a light on inside, turn the radio on, and post a beware of dog sign on the door. We never had a dog, lol.PJPOWER said:
That’s why you get a dog, people will rarely break into places with a dog barking at them. Those schizophrenia inducing cats won’t protect shit!PJ_Soul said:
No it's not. Almost all burglaries are undertaken when nobody is home. So the concern about guns being stolen is a realistic one, while the fear of being invaded while the homeowner is actually there so that they can defend themselves with a gun is not so much. But FWIW, I don't think keeping ammo separate from guns has anything to do with gun theft.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great pointPJPOWER said:This is getting a bit silly. People say that no one needs quick access to a firearm and say that it is “fear” driving them to think someone will break into their house (some say they don’t even lock their doors). And then in the same breath people are “afraid” of a criminal breaking into someone’s house and stealing their guns and ammo that are stored together in a secure vault? Lol. Do we fear people breaking in or not???
Locked=not home
unlocked=home
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The thread is American gun violence, go and start a thread about responsible gun owners ..tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure when you can start reporting news on the actual millions of responsible gun owners. I know you don't have it in you but it would be nice for once as you should also understand by now that every person you call "responsible" is not. It just fits your rhetoric.Halifax2TheMax said:Meanwhile, just another “responsible” gun owner somewhere, somehow being “responsible.”
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/03/19/juvenile-charged-fatal-double-shooting-alton-new-hampshire
And, would you consider this a case of domestic violence and include the male victim in your tally?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
they already have their own thread in the AET.josevolution said:
The thread is American gun violence, go and start a thread about responsible gun owners ..tempo_n_groove said:
Not sure when you can start reporting news on the actual millions of responsible gun owners. I know you don't have it in you but it would be nice for once as you should also understand by now that every person you call "responsible" is not. It just fits your rhetoric.Halifax2TheMax said:Meanwhile, just another “responsible” gun owner somewhere, somehow being “responsible.”
https://www.boston.com/news/local-news/2019/03/19/juvenile-charged-fatal-double-shooting-alton-new-hampshire
And, would you consider this a case of domestic violence and include the male victim in your tally?
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Guns and ammunition stored separately are safeguards to ensure someone (like a kid) who manages to access a gun in the house has to go through another step to get ammunition and combine the two for a weapon set to kill.
There are countless households that wish they had taken the precaution being argued against by the MT gun lobby.
Having the two together to be prepared for the boogeyman breaking into your home is ridiculous. If you’re seriously concerned about that... then why not start designating family members to watch the door? If there’s really that big a chance of a home invasion?"My brain's a good brain!"0 -
Dude, its clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Please stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about me. You don't know anything about what I believe or do. Just stop.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends0 -
the only people I've ever talked to about this is my wife, who IS manic about it (and it drives me nuts that I have to bang on the door when all I've done is gone to the garage for 10 minutes) and my mom who keeps the front door locked but not the back during the day. Don't think my sister does.PJ_Soul said:
It's different for women I think, but I'm not talking about being manic about it. I don't mean locking the door every single time you go inside, even if you're going in and out. Like, nobody is going out to the deck to flip' the burgers and then coming back in and locking the door behind them until the meat's done, lol. I'm just talking about when you're in and staying in.HughFreakingDillon said:
lived in the city all my life. never locked the doors in my house when awake or not showering. don't see a need. especially in the summer, when I'm in and out of the house a lot, I can't be bothered to be constantly locking and unlocking the door.PJ_Soul said:
I think if I lived in a house I'd probably keep the door locked too, just as someone who lives alone. I'm not paranoid, but why not take that extra precaution, since it takes no effort?HughFreakingDillon said:
so did I when I lived in an apartment. I was speaking about living in my house.PJ_Soul said:
I keep my door locked when home. I worry about someone accidentally walking into the wrong apartment. It's actually happened to me once.HughFreakingDillon said:
isn't that how it works everywhere? or do you keep your doors locked when home? the only time my doors are locked at home is when i'm sleeping or in the shower.tempo_n_groove said:
You and a few others have made me realize how to figure out if someone in Canada isn't home, just check the door.PJ_Soul said:
Instead of locking doors, my parents used to keep a light on inside, turn the radio on, and post a beware of dog sign on the door. We never had a dog, lol.PJPOWER said:
That’s why you get a dog, people will rarely break into places with a dog barking at them. Those schizophrenia inducing cats won’t protect shit!PJ_Soul said:
No it's not. Almost all burglaries are undertaken when nobody is home. So the concern about guns being stolen is a realistic one, while the fear of being invaded while the homeowner is actually there so that they can defend themselves with a gun is not so much. But FWIW, I don't think keeping ammo separate from guns has anything to do with gun theft.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great pointPJPOWER said:This is getting a bit silly. People say that no one needs quick access to a firearm and say that it is “fear” driving them to think someone will break into their house (some say they don’t even lock their doors). And then in the same breath people are “afraid” of a criminal breaking into someone’s house and stealing their guns and ammo that are stored together in a secure vault? Lol. Do we fear people breaking in or not???
Locked=not home
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Lol, yeah, that would drive me nuts. I grew up with the full on open door policy, never locked it while we were home or out. NEVER. I literally never had a house key for our home when I lived there (until I was 21), and I was a latch-key kid, lol. Half the time our doors were just left wide open, to the endless frustration of my thrifty dad. But then I moved out of the 'burbs and got my own place alone, and it was a whole different mindset immediately. Sometimes I just feel randomly nervous - not in a crazy way I don't think. Just in a normal way for a single woman in the city, unfortunately (not sure how I'd feel out of the city... probably worse, not better). Like, when I hear strange noises I get a bit paranoid about the possibility of someone climbing through my window and shit like that. I think that's sort of normal for women living alone?HughFreakingDillon said:
the only people I've ever talked to about this is my wife, who IS manic about it (and it drives me nuts that I have to bang on the door when all I've done is gone to the garage for 10 minutes) and my mom who keeps the front door locked but not the back during the day. Don't think my sister does.PJ_Soul said:
It's different for women I think, but I'm not talking about being manic about it. I don't mean locking the door every single time you go inside, even if you're going in and out. Like, nobody is going out to the deck to flip' the burgers and then coming back in and locking the door behind them until the meat's done, lol. I'm just talking about when you're in and staying in.HughFreakingDillon said:
lived in the city all my life. never locked the doors in my house when awake or not showering. don't see a need. especially in the summer, when I'm in and out of the house a lot, I can't be bothered to be constantly locking and unlocking the door.PJ_Soul said:
I think if I lived in a house I'd probably keep the door locked too, just as someone who lives alone. I'm not paranoid, but why not take that extra precaution, since it takes no effort?HughFreakingDillon said:
so did I when I lived in an apartment. I was speaking about living in my house.PJ_Soul said:
I keep my door locked when home. I worry about someone accidentally walking into the wrong apartment. It's actually happened to me once.HughFreakingDillon said:
isn't that how it works everywhere? or do you keep your doors locked when home? the only time my doors are locked at home is when i'm sleeping or in the shower.tempo_n_groove said:
You and a few others have made me realize how to figure out if someone in Canada isn't home, just check the door.PJ_Soul said:
Instead of locking doors, my parents used to keep a light on inside, turn the radio on, and post a beware of dog sign on the door. We never had a dog, lol.PJPOWER said:
That’s why you get a dog, people will rarely break into places with a dog barking at them. Those schizophrenia inducing cats won’t protect shit!PJ_Soul said:
No it's not. Almost all burglaries are undertaken when nobody is home. So the concern about guns being stolen is a realistic one, while the fear of being invaded while the homeowner is actually there so that they can defend themselves with a gun is not so much. But FWIW, I don't think keeping ammo separate from guns has anything to do with gun theft.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great pointPJPOWER said:This is getting a bit silly. People say that no one needs quick access to a firearm and say that it is “fear” driving them to think someone will break into their house (some say they don’t even lock their doors). And then in the same breath people are “afraid” of a criminal breaking into someone’s house and stealing their guns and ammo that are stored together in a secure vault? Lol. Do we fear people breaking in or not???
Locked=not home
unlocked=home
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Should I quote your “facts” of only 50 women a month for 600? It’s a pretty insensitive view point. Stop minimizing the carnage of gun violence and I’ll stop calling you out on it.mace1229 said:
Dude, its clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Please stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about me. You don't know anything about what I believe or do. Just stop.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That is not true. Cars need to go different speeds. Come to Ontario where semis are governed to 105, if you get behind 2 semis's governed at 105 and 1 is doing 100, the other is doing 105, the 1 doing 105 will pass the one doing a 100...that can take a while for the semis to clear each other, all the while the cars behind these semis are backing up traffic and creating congestions.PJ_Soul said:
I think that car idea is fantastic. Cars should not be made to go faster than the max speed limit unless they are race cars. That would definitely prevent deaths.tempo_n_groove said:
You phrase this in a way that will make me sound like a jerk if I disagree with it... It's the equivalent of asking someone if they still beat their wife.HughFreakingDillon said:
but wouldn't you be ok with giving up a hobby if it saves even one life? if I could save anyone's life by giving up something I love doing, I'd do it in a nanosecond.tempo_n_groove said:
I've been shooting since I was 9. Shot my first AR-15 around that time. Have always been around firearms. Shot competitively for a while. Took training classes. Had a lot of fun with it. Enjoy the history, evolution of the weapons and the sporting part of it.HesCalledDyer said:PJPOWER said:Not offended here either, but not necessarily interested in giving a serious response to a condescending anger fueled hypothetical with straw men mixed in. You may get better responses if you act like an adult...but I could be wrong. This is the AMT after all!I'll act how I please, so don't tell me how to. And yes, I'm anger fueled. I'm angry that time and time again large groups of innocent children, movie-goers, church worshippers, shoppers, office workers, etc, etc, are shot up in public places and not a single fucking thing gets done except thoughts and prayers. Sue me for being a bit pissed off at gun culture in this nation. You can't be bothered to respond to an honest question just because I'm angry but spend time responding to me anyway to tell me how I should act. If I don't fit your "worthy of response" criteria, why respond at all?The question remains and no one has given an answer. Why are Americans so fascinated with guns? Why is gun culture so ingrained in the American mind? Why is banning assault weapons so threatening to gun lovers? And again, pretend the Constitution never existed when forming your answer. I'm not looking for automatic responses like "It's my right" or "The Constitution says" or "Heller says" or "Founding Fathers thought." What makes people so happy and defensive about their guns?
Taking away what I do/did for recreation is a big deal to me when all I have ever done is be law abiding and safe with my firearms. There are a lot of other people that have followed the same path, millions actually, and don't want to give those things up.
I'm going to turn the tables around and ask that we all make cars that can only do 65mph because that saves lives. No more speeding on the highway or roads, racing or motorsports for the sake of saving one life(s).Give Peas A Chance…0 -
this semantics game of accusing someone of bullshit for one word in a sentence is so tiring. should we lambaste all the liberals that cite the "few" numbers of illegal immigrants that have committed murder as a reason why there is no need for a wall? I mean, how insensitive to the FEW murder victims, right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Should I quote your “facts” of only 50 women a month for 600? It’s a pretty insensitive view point. Stop minimizing the carnage of gun violence and I’ll stop calling you out on it.mace1229 said:
Dude, its clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Please stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about me. You don't know anything about what I believe or do. Just stop.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends
gimme a break.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
He never used "only" so please stop misquoting him.Halifax2TheMax said:
Should I quote your “facts” of only 50 women a month for 600? It’s a pretty insensitive view point. Stop minimizing the carnage of gun violence and I’ll stop calling you out on it.mace1229 said:
Dude, its clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Please stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about me. You don't know anything about what I believe or do. Just stop.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends0 -
LOLtempo_n_groove said:
You and a few others have made me realize how to figure out if someone in Canada isn't home, just check the door.PJ_Soul said:
Instead of locking doors, my parents used to keep a light on inside, turn the radio on, and post a beware of dog sign on the door. We never had a dog, lol.PJPOWER said:
That’s why you get a dog, people will rarely break into places with a dog barking at them. Those schizophrenia inducing cats won’t protect shit!PJ_Soul said:
No it's not. Almost all burglaries are undertaken when nobody is home. So the concern about guns being stolen is a realistic one, while the fear of being invaded while the homeowner is actually there so that they can defend themselves with a gun is not so much. But FWIW, I don't think keeping ammo separate from guns has anything to do with gun theft.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great pointPJPOWER said:This is getting a bit silly. People say that no one needs quick access to a firearm and say that it is “fear” driving them to think someone will break into their house (some say they don’t even lock their doors). And then in the same breath people are “afraid” of a criminal breaking into someone’s house and stealing their guns and ammo that are stored together in a secure vault? Lol. Do we fear people breaking in or not???
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It's hit and miss with me. If I'm in bed enjoying a good buzz, the door is staying how it is...I'm not checking it. I do have a dog, but she is more likely to lick them to death as a greeting...loltempo_n_groove said:
"Instead of locking doors" so... Unlocked means you are home.PJ_Soul said:
Huh? That's not the case...tempo_n_groove said:
You and a few others have made me realize how to figure out if someone in Canada isn't home, just check the door.PJ_Soul said:
Instead of locking doors, my parents used to keep a light on inside, turn the radio on, and post a beware of dog sign on the door. We never had a dog, lol.PJPOWER said:
That’s why you get a dog, people will rarely break into places with a dog barking at them. Those schizophrenia inducing cats won’t protect shit!PJ_Soul said:
No it's not. Almost all burglaries are undertaken when nobody is home. So the concern about guns being stolen is a realistic one, while the fear of being invaded while the homeowner is actually there so that they can defend themselves with a gun is not so much. But FWIW, I don't think keeping ammo separate from guns has anything to do with gun theft.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. Great pointPJPOWER said:This is getting a bit silly. People say that no one needs quick access to a firearm and say that it is “fear” driving them to think someone will break into their house (some say they don’t even lock their doors). And then in the same breath people are “afraid” of a criminal breaking into someone’s house and stealing their guns and ammo that are stored together in a secure vault? Lol. Do we fear people breaking in or not???
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I know cars need to go difference speeds, lol. But if everyone is going the max, nobody is going to have to pass anyone, are they? And if someone is going under the max speed, then others can pass them.Meltdown99 said:
That is not true. Cars need to go different speeds. Come to Ontario where semis are governed to 105, if you get behind 2 semis's governed at 105 and 1 is doing 100, the other is doing 105, the 1 doing 105 will pass the one doing a 100...that can take a while for the semis to clear each other, all the while the cars behind these semis are backing up traffic and creating congestions.PJ_Soul said:
I think that car idea is fantastic. Cars should not be made to go faster than the max speed limit unless they are race cars. That would definitely prevent deaths.tempo_n_groove said:
You phrase this in a way that will make me sound like a jerk if I disagree with it... It's the equivalent of asking someone if they still beat their wife.HughFreakingDillon said:
but wouldn't you be ok with giving up a hobby if it saves even one life? if I could save anyone's life by giving up something I love doing, I'd do it in a nanosecond.tempo_n_groove said:
I've been shooting since I was 9. Shot my first AR-15 around that time. Have always been around firearms. Shot competitively for a while. Took training classes. Had a lot of fun with it. Enjoy the history, evolution of the weapons and the sporting part of it.HesCalledDyer said:PJPOWER said:Not offended here either, but not necessarily interested in giving a serious response to a condescending anger fueled hypothetical with straw men mixed in. You may get better responses if you act like an adult...but I could be wrong. This is the AMT after all!I'll act how I please, so don't tell me how to. And yes, I'm anger fueled. I'm angry that time and time again large groups of innocent children, movie-goers, church worshippers, shoppers, office workers, etc, etc, are shot up in public places and not a single fucking thing gets done except thoughts and prayers. Sue me for being a bit pissed off at gun culture in this nation. You can't be bothered to respond to an honest question just because I'm angry but spend time responding to me anyway to tell me how I should act. If I don't fit your "worthy of response" criteria, why respond at all?The question remains and no one has given an answer. Why are Americans so fascinated with guns? Why is gun culture so ingrained in the American mind? Why is banning assault weapons so threatening to gun lovers? And again, pretend the Constitution never existed when forming your answer. I'm not looking for automatic responses like "It's my right" or "The Constitution says" or "Heller says" or "Founding Fathers thought." What makes people so happy and defensive about their guns?
Taking away what I do/did for recreation is a big deal to me when all I have ever done is be law abiding and safe with my firearms. There are a lot of other people that have followed the same path, millions actually, and don't want to give those things up.
I'm going to turn the tables around and ask that we all make cars that can only do 65mph because that saves lives. No more speeding on the highway or roads, racing or motorsports for the sake of saving one life(s).
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The “facts” he used to back up his number of domestic violence victims only referenced women and appeared to dismiss the number of 600 victims as insinificant.tempo_n_groove said:
He never used "only" so please stop misquoting him.Halifax2TheMax said:
Should I quote your “facts” of only 50 women a month for 600? It’s a pretty insensitive view point. Stop minimizing the carnage of gun violence and I’ll stop calling you out on it.mace1229 said:
Dude, its clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Please stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about me. You don't know anything about what I believe or do. Just stop.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends
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Liberals lambast the number of murders committed by immigrants in the context that they’re less likely to murder than the white, native population and the right likes to claim that its an "invasion" or "oh the horror." Maybe the white, native population should get their house in order before creating boogymen? And please show me a post, by a "liberal" claiming its only X number or that they're unsympathetic to a "FEW murders." Semantics or "facts" don't matter. Got it.HughFreakingDillon said:
this semantics game of accusing someone of bullshit for one word in a sentence is so tiring. should we lambaste all the liberals that cite the "few" numbers of illegal immigrants that have committed murder as a reason why there is no need for a wall? I mean, how insensitive to the FEW murder victims, right?Halifax2TheMax said:
Should I quote your “facts” of only 50 women a month for 600? It’s a pretty insensitive view point. Stop minimizing the carnage of gun violence and I’ll stop calling you out on it.mace1229 said:
Dude, its clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Please stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about me. You don't know anything about what I believe or do. Just stop.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends
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I don't know why, but I'll try one last time then I'll just have to give up on getting through to some people.Halifax2TheMax said:
The “facts” he used to back up his number of domestic violence victims only referenced women and appeared to dismiss the number of 600 victims as insinificant.tempo_n_groove said:
He never used "only" so please stop misquoting him.Halifax2TheMax said:
Should I quote your “facts” of only 50 women a month for 600? It’s a pretty insensitive view point. Stop minimizing the carnage of gun violence and I’ll stop calling you out on it.mace1229 said:
Dude, its clear you have no clue what you're talking about. Please stop jumping to conclusions and making assumptions about me. You don't know anything about what I believe or do. Just stop.Halifax2TheMax said:
Sorry, but it’s more than only 600 or so women. It’s telling that you “responsible” gun owners minimize and ridicule the carnage from gun violence.tempo_n_groove said:
No, they were all responsible people looking for a P tape...Halifax2TheMax said:Do these 7 count in your tally or just the estranged wife of the gunman?
https://www.cnn.com/2017/09/12/us/texas-plano-mass-shooting-at-cowboys-watch-party/index.html
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/apr/11/domestic-violence-shooting-deaths-women-husbands-boyfriends
I never minimized anything. I'll try to break it down as much as I can one last time.
It was stated that ammo should be stored separately to allow victims of domestic violence an extra 15 seconds to escape a heated argument before getting shot. I did not agree with that logic, if a gun is stored and locked properly I don't think it is going to make a difference.
Then I added why make laws that to protect only a small group, why not make laws that protect everyone against guns, including those 600 women killed every year? Make laws that make it easier to take guns away from those in a violent relationship, support the abused more, strict background checks. registration and accountability for guns. All of which would not only protect those victims better than having a separate box to open, but also help protect thousands more as well.
Since then others have said it is to prevent kids from getting both guns and ammo. And while I still believe the safest place in my house is my gun safe, and therefore no one is getting guns or ammo, I can at least recognize the logic in that. The reality is if someone gets ammo because it was stored with a gun, then the guns weren't properly stored to begin with. SO making separate laws on ammo isn't going to save a singe life. If someone stores their guns so a kid and access it, are they really going to make their ammo more secure? If they lock their guns up properly, no kid is getting to it. As someone else already said, it would just be a "feel good" law, and a tally mark for another victory that has no real impact.
Now explain how that is minimizing anything? Actually, on second thought, please don't.Post edited by mace1229 on0
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