America's Gun Violence
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HesCalledDyer said:mcgruff10 said:Bentleyspop said:But I thought Sandy Hook didn't happen that it was a false flag event created by President Obama.....
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Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
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tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
As for responsibility, its spouted ceaselessly by the pro-gun crowd that the majority of gun owners are "responsible." I counter that they are until they're not by posting newsworthy articles of "responsibility" and its consequences. The pro-gun crowd rails that because the majority of gun owners are "responsible," additional or expanded gun laws are unnecessary and would be a violation of their rights under the 2A. Further, when those "responsible" gun owners do do stupid shit with their guns, like in the articles I link to, the "responsible" gun owner is very rarely held to account, so I beg to differ. While the state police patrolman in the Shangra La of Indianer most likely won't suffer any legal consequences of failing to secure his firearm in a safe and "responsible" manner, because Indianer doesn't have a safe firearm storage law, he seemingly failed to follow the guidelines his employer reminds all gun owners to follow when possessing a firearm, particularly when children are present or in the household. As such, I'd argue that not only was the trooper a "responsible" gun owner, he's also a "responsible" parent.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
As for responsibility, its spouted ceaselessly by the pro-gun crowd that the majority of gun owners are "responsible." I counter that they are until they're not by posting newsworthy articles of "responsibility" and its consequences. The pro-gun crowd rails that because the majority of gun owners are "responsible," additional or expanded gun laws are unnecessary and would be a violation of their rights under the 2A. Further, when those "responsible" gun owners do do stupid shit with their guns, like in the articles I link to, the "responsible" gun owner is very rarely held to account, so I beg to differ. While the state police patrolman in the Shangra La of Indianer most likely won't suffer any legal consequences of failing to secure his firearm in a safe and "responsible" manner, because Indianer doesn't have a safe firearm storage law, he seemingly failed to follow the guidelines his employer reminds all gun owners to follow when possessing a firearm, particularly when children are present or in the household. As such, I'd argue that not only was the trooper a "responsible" gun owner, he's also a "responsible" parent.
There isn't a single statistic, article, meme. gif or conversation that I could have with you that would ever sway your view on firearms.
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tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
As for responsibility, its spouted ceaselessly by the pro-gun crowd that the majority of gun owners are "responsible." I counter that they are until they're not by posting newsworthy articles of "responsibility" and its consequences. The pro-gun crowd rails that because the majority of gun owners are "responsible," additional or expanded gun laws are unnecessary and would be a violation of their rights under the 2A. Further, when those "responsible" gun owners do do stupid shit with their guns, like in the articles I link to, the "responsible" gun owner is very rarely held to account, so I beg to differ. While the state police patrolman in the Shangra La of Indianer most likely won't suffer any legal consequences of failing to secure his firearm in a safe and "responsible" manner, because Indianer doesn't have a safe firearm storage law, he seemingly failed to follow the guidelines his employer reminds all gun owners to follow when possessing a firearm, particularly when children are present or in the household. As such, I'd argue that not only was the trooper a "responsible" gun owner, he's also a "responsible" parent.
There isn't a single statistic, article, meme. gif or conversation that I could have with you that would ever sway your view on firearms.
And no amount of posting articles about “responsible” gun owners will convince the pro-gun crowd to stop paying their NRA dues or vote for candidates who support sensible gun control legislation. And I hope your reference to having “a screw loose” isn’t a reference to mental illness as if it is, you’re denigrating the majority of those with mental illness. Can you clarify?
And to your last statement, correct. Although I’d be willing to bet that if we discussed the topic in full, there’d be common ground.
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Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
As for responsibility, its spouted ceaselessly by the pro-gun crowd that the majority of gun owners are "responsible." I counter that they are until they're not by posting newsworthy articles of "responsibility" and its consequences. The pro-gun crowd rails that because the majority of gun owners are "responsible," additional or expanded gun laws are unnecessary and would be a violation of their rights under the 2A. Further, when those "responsible" gun owners do do stupid shit with their guns, like in the articles I link to, the "responsible" gun owner is very rarely held to account, so I beg to differ. While the state police patrolman in the Shangra La of Indianer most likely won't suffer any legal consequences of failing to secure his firearm in a safe and "responsible" manner, because Indianer doesn't have a safe firearm storage law, he seemingly failed to follow the guidelines his employer reminds all gun owners to follow when possessing a firearm, particularly when children are present or in the household. As such, I'd argue that not only was the trooper a "responsible" gun owner, he's also a "responsible" parent.
There isn't a single statistic, article, meme. gif or conversation that I could have with you that would ever sway your view on firearms.
And no amount of posting articles about “responsible” gun owners will convince the pro-gun crowd to stop paying their NRA dues or vote for candidates who support sensible gun control legislation. And I hope your reference to having “a screw loose” isn’t a reference to mental illness as if it is, you’re denigrating the majority of those with mental illness. Can you clarify?
And to your last statement, correct. Although I’d be willing to bet that if we discussed the topic in full, there’d be common ground.
You can google the term screw loose.
I'm sure your mention of "Indianer" wasn't meant to be poking fun at the people in Indiana as hicks or backwoods people or anything, would it?0 -
tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
As for responsibility, its spouted ceaselessly by the pro-gun crowd that the majority of gun owners are "responsible." I counter that they are until they're not by posting newsworthy articles of "responsibility" and its consequences. The pro-gun crowd rails that because the majority of gun owners are "responsible," additional or expanded gun laws are unnecessary and would be a violation of their rights under the 2A. Further, when those "responsible" gun owners do do stupid shit with their guns, like in the articles I link to, the "responsible" gun owner is very rarely held to account, so I beg to differ. While the state police patrolman in the Shangra La of Indianer most likely won't suffer any legal consequences of failing to secure his firearm in a safe and "responsible" manner, because Indianer doesn't have a safe firearm storage law, he seemingly failed to follow the guidelines his employer reminds all gun owners to follow when possessing a firearm, particularly when children are present or in the household. As such, I'd argue that not only was the trooper a "responsible" gun owner, he's also a "responsible" parent.
There isn't a single statistic, article, meme. gif or conversation that I could have with you that would ever sway your view on firearms.
And no amount of posting articles about “responsible” gun owners will convince the pro-gun crowd to stop paying their NRA dues or vote for candidates who support sensible gun control legislation. And I hope your reference to having “a screw loose” isn’t a reference to mental illness as if it is, you’re denigrating the majority of those with mental illness. Can you clarify?
And to your last statement, correct. Although I’d be willing to bet that if we discussed the topic in full, there’d be common ground.
You can google the term screw loose.
I'm sure your mention of "Indianer" wasn't meant to be poking fun at the people in Indiana as hicks or backwoods people or anything, would it?
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mcgruff10 said:Bentleyspop said:But I thought Sandy Hook didn't happen that it was a false flag event created by President Obama.....
In order for a lawsuit to be successful, wouldn't the defendant have to have done something wrong? I have never heard anything suggesting that Remington did anything illegal or against protocol. No matter how much someone hates guns, there's no evidence Remington has did anything to cause this.0 -
mace1229 said:mcgruff10 said:Bentleyspop said:But I thought Sandy Hook didn't happen that it was a false flag event created by President Obama.....
In order for a lawsuit to be successful, wouldn't the defendant have to have done something wrong? I have never heard anything suggesting that Remington did anything illegal or against protocol. No matter how much someone hates guns, there's no evidence Remington has did anything to cause this.0 -
A more apt comparison is suing tobacco companies for the health impacts of smoking.... And most seem to think that was justified.
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PJ_Soul said:A more apt comparison is suing tobacco companies for the health impacts of smoking.... And most seem to think that was justified.0
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PJPOWER said:PJ_Soul said:A more apt comparison is suing tobacco companies for the health impacts of smoking.... And most seem to think that was justified.
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PJ_Soul said:PJPOWER said:PJ_Soul said:A more apt comparison is suing tobacco companies for the health impacts of smoking.... And most seem to think that was justified.0
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The Tobacco thing to me is way different. They spent billions of dollars concocting additives to make it addicting, kind of like the pharmaceuticals now.
No advertising or concoction is making people want to buy guns and go shoot up people/places, and please don't say the NRA is.0 -
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/03/15/alton-new-hampshire-shooting-investigation-police/
11 years old. Sad and crazy.
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Indifference said:
https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/03/15/alton-new-hampshire-shooting-investigation-police/
11 years old. Sad and crazy.
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Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
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HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mcgruff10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
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Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Halifax2TheMax said:mcgruff10 said:Halifax2TheMax said:tempo_n_groove said:Halifax2TheMax said:
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