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Way old news. Like slow dancing with Little Rocket Man (they fell in love, you know?). Otto. CPAC. All way old news.The Juggler said:Checking in on "the invasion." By this point, it's been a few months. Have the invading migrants made their way north to Illinois or Ohio yet? How many casualties to report? Any updates?09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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they already made it to winnipeg. we built a whole bunch of igloos and they are subsisting on whale blubber and bannock.The Juggler said:Checking in on "the invasion." By this point, it's been a few months. Have the invading migrants made their way north to Illinois or Ohio yet? How many casualties to report? Any updates?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Well, gee...would you look at this:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/07/john-kelly-border-wall-1209344
Though there were areas where a border wall would be effective, former White House chief of staff John Kelly said, “we don’t need a wall from sea to shining sea.” | Shawn Thew - Pool/Getty Images
Kelly says a full border wall would be a 'waste of money'
03/07/2019 09:35 AM EST
Former White House chief of staff John Kelly spoke freely for the first time Wednesday evening about his tenure in President Donald Trump’s administration and in doing so broke with the president on immigration and other core issues.
Kelly participated in an on-stage interview at Duke University, where the retired four-star general said he viewed his nearly two-year stint in the Trump administration — first as Homeland Security secretary and then as Trump’s chief of staff — as doing his civic duty to the country. He also said he likely would have made the same choice had a President Hillary Clinton offered him the job, according to several media outlets.
Though he also reportedly called his service for Trump “the least enjoyable job” he’d ever had, Kelly insisted that it was the most important one he’d held.
While Kelly said Wednesday he couldn’t answer questions about whether the president ordered him to grant son-in-law Jared Kushner a security clearance over the objections of intelligence officials, citing executive privilege, he notably diverged from Trump on his marquee campaign issue of immigration.
Kelly rebuked one of the president’s constant refrains about undocumented immigrants: That migrants who cross into the U.S. illegally are dangerous criminals and pose a serious threat.
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“They’re overwhelmingly not criminals,” Kelly said Wednesday. “They’re people coming up here for economic purposes. I don’t blame them for that.”
He also reiterated his position that a border wall spanning the entirety of the U.S.-Mexico border would be a “waste of money,” despite overseeing the beginning of what would become the longest government shutdown in U.S. history over Trump’s demands that Congress fund such a project.
Though there were areas where a border wall would be effective, Kelly said, “we don’t need a wall from sea to shining sea.”
The former general also defended the NATO alliance, which Trump has repeatedly maligned as having a cost to the U.S. that outweighs its benefits.
But while Kelly addressed some of the most controversial aspects of his time in the White House, he drew laughter from the audience when he joked about the advice he says he gave his replacement, Mick Mulvaney.
Before arguing that the job of a chief of staff is to tell the president “what he needs to hear,” Kelly said he advised Mulvaney to make a “run for it.”
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They said on ABC World News Tonight last night that the government estimates 65,000 people illegal immigrated LAST MONTH. That can be considered a national emergency I guess. Where are all those people going to live?2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I'd like to know which agency of the government this estimate came from.Ledbetterman10 said:They said on ABC World News Tonight last night that the government estimates 65,000 people illegal immigrated LAST MONTH. That can be considered a national emergency I guess. Where are all those people going to live?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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I'd like to know which agency of the government this estimate came from.Ledbetterman10 said:They said on ABC World News Tonight last night that the government estimates 65,000 people illegal immigrated LAST MONTH. That can be considered a national emergency I guess. Where are all those people going to live?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/highest-february-total-undocumented-immigrants-crossing-u-s-border-12-n979546
And I was wrong. The estimate for February 2019 is 76,103. 65,000 is an estimate from October 2016.
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Yet this administration won’t lift a finger to see how they can help the Central American countries where these mass migrations are happening, so the answer is a wall from sea to shining sea ? Is that what you believe the answer to be ..Ledbetterman10 said:
Department of Homeland Security…HughFreakingDillon said:
I'd like to know which agency of the government this estimate came from.Ledbetterman10 said:They said on ABC World News Tonight last night that the government estimates 65,000 people illegal immigrated LAST MONTH. That can be considered a national emergency I guess. Where are all those people going to live?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/highest-february-total-undocumented-immigrants-crossing-u-s-border-12-n979546
And I was wrong. The estimate for February 2019 is 76,103. 65,000 is an estimate from October 2016.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Actually that's not exactly true. I heard on NPR yesterday that the U.S. gives $750 million annually to Central and South American countries to "help" with the various issues that lead to the mass immigrations.josevolution said:
Yet this administration won’t lift a finger to see how they can help the Central American countries where these mass migrations are happening, so the answer is a wall from sea to shining sea ? Is that what you believe the answer to be ..Ledbetterman10 said:
Department of Homeland Security…HughFreakingDillon said:
I'd like to know which agency of the government this estimate came from.Ledbetterman10 said:They said on ABC World News Tonight last night that the government estimates 65,000 people illegal immigrated LAST MONTH. That can be considered a national emergency I guess. Where are all those people going to live?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/highest-february-total-undocumented-immigrants-crossing-u-s-border-12-n979546
And I was wrong. The estimate for February 2019 is 76,103. 65,000 is an estimate from October 2016.
I'm going to guess that most of it used up by the various leaders filling their own offshore accounts.0 -
Yep corruption is out of control in the country’sBentleyspop said:
Actually that's not exactly true. I heard on NPR yesterday that the U.S. gives $750 million annually to Central and South American countries to "help" with the various issues that lead to the mass immigrations.josevolution said:
Yet this administration won’t lift a finger to see how they can help the Central American countries where these mass migrations are happening, so the answer is a wall from sea to shining sea ? Is that what you believe the answer to be ..Ledbetterman10 said:
Department of Homeland Security…HughFreakingDillon said:
I'd like to know which agency of the government this estimate came from.Ledbetterman10 said:They said on ABC World News Tonight last night that the government estimates 65,000 people illegal immigrated LAST MONTH. That can be considered a national emergency I guess. Where are all those people going to live?
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/highest-february-total-undocumented-immigrants-crossing-u-s-border-12-n979546
And I was wrong. The estimate for February 2019 is 76,103. 65,000 is an estimate from October 2016.
I'm going to guess that most of it used up by the various leaders filling their own offshore accounts.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna980301
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https://apple.news/A0otJ16wXROONXs2gOaRx
evil bastards I hope they all rot in hell everyone of them including the whole 1st family kids & all ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Smart judge. Clearly not a drumpf appointee....josevolution said:https://apple.news/A0otJ16wXROONXs2gOaRx
evil bastards I hope they all rot in hell everyone of them including the whole 1st family kids & all ...
"The hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders," the judge wrote.
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And this administration and this president will be at the head of this ugly chapter of America’s immigration history..Bentleyspop said:
Smart judge. Clearly not a drumpf appointee....josevolution said:https://apple.news/A0otJ16wXROONXs2gOaRx
evil bastards I hope they all rot in hell everyone of them including the whole 1st family kids & all ...
"The hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders," the judge wrote.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
If anyone has been watching Supergirl the show has basically been echoing the border situation here.
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You, guys having issues at your southern border?tempo_n_groove said:If anyone has been watching Supergirl the show has basically been echoing the border situation here.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
A failure to properly address this issue (and even more specifically the Overstaying Visa issue) for many many years for political gain has resulted in a level of frustration where people are no longer looking for real solutions and just reacting. I find myself thinking that was sometimes and try to reel it in when I do.josevolution said:
And this administration and this president will be at the head of this ugly chapter of America’s immigration history..Bentleyspop said:
Smart judge. Clearly not a drumpf appointee....josevolution said:https://apple.news/A0otJ16wXROONXs2gOaRx
evil bastards I hope they all rot in hell everyone of them including the whole 1st family kids & all ...
"The hallmark of a civilized society is measured by how it treats its people and those within its borders," the judge wrote.
The biggest problem with the immigration issue is this: each of the 2 main political parties are looking at these people as votes, not as people.
The reality is, with the global economy, immigration can be a boost to an individuals economy. You add consumers (so long as there is enough opportunity for them to become consumers instead of living off the government). You add talent. You add diversity which challenges your companies to meet the needs of the new consumer base. And by understanding and meeting those needs you gain an advantage over companies that are not serving a diverse base and haven't learned those lessons. Lots of reasons why it can be good. But the process is broken and it needs fixed. And yes that involves border and port security. It involves tracking individuals that overstay their visas and removing them from the country if need be. It involves changing the laws and processes to reduce the red tape to becoming a citizen and streamlining the process for those that follow the legal way moving forward.hippiemom = goodness0 -
The REAL immigration problem is not at the southern or northern border.
It's at the airports.
Where Europeans, for the most part, fly in on student and other visas and overstay their welcome.
No one wants to talk about the white guy or girl that is hear illegally for years and decades.
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Yup, I literally just said thatBentleyspop said:The REAL immigration problem is not at the southern or northern border.
It's at the airports.
Where Europeans, for the most part, fly in on student and other visas and overstay their welcome.
No one wants to talk about the white guy or girl that is hear illegally for years and decades.
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Way to keep the fires of fear and hatred burning. "For the most part." Immigrants aren't eligible for welfare programs.
In an interview with Breitbart News yesterday, President Trump said he does not want immigrants coming to the United States to be dependent on welfare programs. “We have a problem, because we have politicians that are not strong, or they have bad intentions, or they want to get votes, because they think if they come in they’re going to vote Democrat, you know, for the most part,” the President explained.
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Trump administration preparing to close international immigration offices
The Trump administration is preparing to shutter all 21 international offices of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, a move that could slow the processing of family visa applications, foreign adoptions and citizenship petitions from members of the military.
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