A quarter of all kindergartners in Washington county aren’t immunized. Now there’s a measles crisis

Meltdown99 · March 2019

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

It isn’t actually safe to assume it causes no harm. Like anything, they are associated harms as well as benefits. There is research proving potential harms, more so as more research gets completed. We’ll be getting a much fuller picture in the years to come but it’s unrealistic and ignores current data to day that there are no harms.

Well, you let me know when people are dropping dead from weed. And I know it affects the developing brain, so does alcohol, caffeine, contact sports and probably a host of other things that young people are involved in.

Not that many teens are sitting around smoking 4 joints a day, every day...at least I couldn't...it still cost money.

oftenreading · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

It isn’t actually safe to assume it causes no harm. Like anything, they are associated harms as well as benefits. There is research proving potential harms, more so as more research gets completed. We’ll be getting a much fuller picture in the years to come but it’s unrealistic and ignores current data to day that there are no harms.

Well, you let me know when people are dropping dead from weed. And I know it affects the developing brain, so does alcohol, caffeine, contact sports and probably a host of other things that young people are involved in.

Not that many teens are sitting around smoking 4 joints a day, every day...at least I couldn't...it still cost money.

There's a wide gulf between "dropping dead" and "does not cause any harm". There are harms, and it does not do anyone any good to pretend that cannabis has no potential to cause harm. It just makes the "pro" side look naive.

Why did you choose "4 joints per day"? Lots of teens use daily or near daily. Regular cannabis use from a young age has been clearly linked to earlier onset of significant mental illness in vulnerable people, in addition to other harms. . Early onset is a major negative prognostic feature. Even a couple of additional years of normal life before psychosis sets in can make a major difference in trajectory of illness.

benjs · March 2019

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

It isn’t actually safe to assume it causes no harm. Like anything, they are associated harms as well as benefits. There is research proving potential harms, more so as more research gets completed. We’ll be getting a much fuller picture in the years to come but it’s unrealistic and ignores current data to day that there are no harms.

Well, you let me know when people are dropping dead from weed. And I know it affects the developing brain, so does alcohol, caffeine, contact sports and probably a host of other things that young people are involved in.

Not that many teens are sitting around smoking 4 joints a day, every day...at least I couldn't...it still cost money.

There's a wide gulf between "dropping dead" and "does not cause any harm". There are harms, and it does not do anyone any good to pretend that cannabis has no potential to cause harm. It just makes the "pro" side look naive.

Why did you choose "4 joints per day"? Lots of teens use daily or near daily. Regular cannabis use from a young age has been clearly linked to earlier onset of significant mental illness in vulnerable people, in addition to other harms. . Early onset is a major negative prognostic feature. Even a couple of additional years of normal life before psychosis sets in can make a major difference in trajectory of illness.

I was going to write a response, but I decided to smoke a bowl of Blue God (indica) instead. I'm all for research, learning's fun.

Meltdown99 · March 2019

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

It isn’t actually safe to assume it causes no harm. Like anything, they are associated harms as well as benefits. There is research proving potential harms, more so as more research gets completed. We’ll be getting a much fuller picture in the years to come but it’s unrealistic and ignores current data to day that there are no harms.

Well, you let me know when people are dropping dead from weed. And I know it affects the developing brain, so does alcohol, caffeine, contact sports and probably a host of other things that young people are involved in.

Not that many teens are sitting around smoking 4 joints a day, every day...at least I couldn't...it still cost money.

There's a wide gulf between "dropping dead" and "does not cause any harm". There are harms, and it does not do anyone any good to pretend that cannabis has no potential to cause harm. It just makes the "pro" side look naive.

Why did you choose "4 joints per day"? Lots of teens use daily or near daily. Regular cannabis use from a young age has been clearly linked to earlier onset of significant mental illness in vulnerable people, in addition to other harms. . Early onset is a major negative prognostic feature. Even a couple of additional years of normal life before psychosis sets in can make a major difference in trajectory of illness.

Then let me know when the streets of Canadians cities are lined with weed heads. Fuck people have been smoking weed longer than alcohol has been consumed. Here we go, it causes psychosis...blah, blah...

Are you really peddling the bullshit that the disease management community loves to pass off? Those in disease management are responsible for the opioid crisis...

It's reefer madness. I'll stick to Cannabis and avoid unnecessary pharmaceuticals and their 1000 side effects.

oftenreading · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

It isn’t actually safe to assume it causes no harm. Like anything, they are associated harms as well as benefits. There is research proving potential harms, more so as more research gets completed. We’ll be getting a much fuller picture in the years to come but it’s unrealistic and ignores current data to day that there are no harms.

Well, you let me know when people are dropping dead from weed. And I know it affects the developing brain, so does alcohol, caffeine, contact sports and probably a host of other things that young people are involved in.

Not that many teens are sitting around smoking 4 joints a day, every day...at least I couldn't...it still cost money.

There's a wide gulf between "dropping dead" and "does not cause any harm". There are harms, and it does not do anyone any good to pretend that cannabis has no potential to cause harm. It just makes the "pro" side look naive.

Why did you choose "4 joints per day"? Lots of teens use daily or near daily. Regular cannabis use from a young age has been clearly linked to earlier onset of significant mental illness in vulnerable people, in addition to other harms. . Early onset is a major negative prognostic feature. Even a couple of additional years of normal life before psychosis sets in can make a major difference in trajectory of illness.

Then let me know when the streets of Canadians cities are lined with weed heads. Fuck people have been smoking weed longer than alcohol has been consumed. Here we go, it causes psychosis...blah, blah...

Are you really peddling the bullshit that the disease management community loves to pass off? Those in disease management are responsible for the opioid crisis...

It's reefer madness. I'll stick to Cannabis and avoid unnecessary pharmaceuticals and their 1000 side effects.

And I’ll stick with evidence.

josevolution · March 2019

oftenreading said:

josevolution said:

I’ve got a terrible cold so no smoking for me which is fine I really don’t smoke that much these days rather consume thc orally, I’m eating a chocolate to medicate relaxes me so I can just rest ..

Get well soon, Jose

Thanks def don’t want to derail this important thread but last night I was miserable 😩 didn’t even want to try a chocolate this morning I feel a bit better just put 5ml of vegetable canna tincture in my tea uhm uhmm good ..

oftenreading · March 2019

josevolution said:

oftenreading said:

josevolution said:

I’ve got a terrible cold so no smoking for me which is fine I really don’t smoke that much these days rather consume thc orally, I’m eating a chocolate to medicate relaxes me so I can just rest ..

Get well soon, Jose

Thanks def don’t want to derail this important thread but last night I was miserable 😩 didn’t even want to try a chocolate this morning I feel a bit better just put 5ml of vegetable canna tincture in my tea uhm uhmm good ..

What is the “vegetable” part? Aside from the weed, I mean

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oftenreading · March 2019

A 6 year old unvaccinated boy spent two months in hospital with tetanus, the first case of pediatric tetanus in 30 years. He almost died, and his hospitalization cost over $800,000.

By the end of the hospitalization, his parents were still refusing to allow him to be vaccinated.

https://apnews.com/26fcd1adcc7246a3adaa2166311c775b

josevolution · March 2019

Vegetable Glycerin I infuse leaf matter with it to extract the THC it’s long proces but it’s worth the wait ..

oftenreading · March 2019

josevolution said:

Vegetable Glycerin I infuse leaf matter with it to extract the THC it’s long proces but it’s worth the wait ..

Ah, I see.

I thought you were making V-8

josevolution · March 2019

oftenreading said:

josevolution said:

Vegetable Glycerin I infuse leaf matter with it to extract the THC it’s long proces but it’s worth the wait ..

Ah, I see.

I thought you were making V-8

Love V-8 uhmm I can always just add the tincture right into Vega drink in morning 😋

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

oftenreading said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

It isn’t actually safe to assume it causes no harm. Like anything, they are associated harms as well as benefits. There is research proving potential harms, more so as more research gets completed. We’ll be getting a much fuller picture in the years to come but it’s unrealistic and ignores current data to day that there are no harms.

Well, you let me know when people are dropping dead from weed. And I know it affects the developing brain, so does alcohol, caffeine, contact sports and probably a host of other things that young people are involved in.

Not that many teens are sitting around smoking 4 joints a day, every day...at least I couldn't...it still cost money.

There's a wide gulf between "dropping dead" and "does not cause any harm". There are harms, and it does not do anyone any good to pretend that cannabis has no potential to cause harm. It just makes the "pro" side look naive.

Why did you choose "4 joints per day"? Lots of teens use daily or near daily. Regular cannabis use from a young age has been clearly linked to earlier onset of significant mental illness in vulnerable people, in addition to other harms. . Early onset is a major negative prognostic feature. Even a couple of additional years of normal life before psychosis sets in can make a major difference in trajectory of illness.

Then let me know when the streets of Canadians cities are lined with weed heads. Fuck people have been smoking weed longer than alcohol has been consumed. Here we go, it causes psychosis...blah, blah...

Are you really peddling the bullshit that the disease management community loves to pass off? Those in disease management are responsible for the opioid crisis...

It's reefer madness. I'll stick to Cannabis and avoid unnecessary pharmaceuticals and their 1000 side effects.

we all know it is legal in canada. so I'm not sure why you are inferring there is hysteria surrounding its consumption. without redirecting to "well (this) is worse than cannabis", are you denying the potential health risks that cannabis poses, especially to underage people?

Halifax2TheMax · March 2019

Is the government quaritining these WA kids after they separate them from their parents? Why not?

“More than 2,000 people in Immigration and Customs Enforcement custody are being quarantined amid an outbreak of mumps and other diseases,” Geneva Sands, Michelle Lou, and Susan Scutti report for CNN. “The numbers of immigrants in custody with a contagious diseases has spiked in the past year. For the previous two years, the agency has not encountered a single case of mumps among its detainees.”

Bentleyspop · March 2019

There seems to be a$$holes everywhere spewing fear, hate, ignorance and lies wherever and whenever they can.....

Her son died. And then anti-vaxers attacked her https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/health/anti-vax-harassment-eprise/index.html

tempo_n_groove · March 2019

There are Jewish sects in Brooklyn that are now doing this too.

PJPOWER · March 2019

Bentleyspop said:

There seems to be a$$holes everywhere spewing fear, hate, ignorance and lies wherever and whenever they can.....

Her son died. And then anti-vaxers attacked her https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/health/anti-vax-harassment-eprise/index.html

Sick fucks

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

Bentleyspop said:

There seems to be a$$holes everywhere spewing fear, hate, ignorance and lies wherever and whenever they can.....

Her son died. And then anti-vaxers attacked her https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/19/health/anti-vax-harassment-eprise/index.html

I just read that. how horrible. I can't imagine losing a child. then to be attacked for it. jesus.

Bentleyspop · April 2019

New York City declares a public health emergency amid Brooklyn measles outbreak https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/09/health/measles-new-york-emergency-bn/index.html

Bentleyspop · April 2019

This baby got measles because of anti-vaxers
https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/18/health/measles-israeli-baby-us-caution/index.html

Bentleyspop · May 2019

US measles cases reach highest number in nearly three decades, CDC says https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/health/us-measles-highest-since-1994-cdc-bn/index.html

A quarter of all kindergartners in Washington county aren’t immunized. Now there’s a measles crisis

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