A quarter of all kindergartners in Washington county aren’t immunized. Now there’s a measles crisis

PJ_Soul · March 2019

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.

Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Halifax2TheMax · March 2019

Been out there for a long time but folks would rather listen to a porn star.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/05/health/measles-vaccine-autism.html

Bentleyspop · March 2019

Anti-vaxers' adult son gets measles; now, he has this message for the world
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/health/measles-josh-nerius/index.html

Meltdown99 · March 2019

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

Meltdown99 · March 2019

Bentleyspop said:

Anti-vaxers' adult son gets measles; now, he has this message for the world
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/07/health/measles-josh-nerius/index.html

It's just sad. Money Mom was still alive when the anti-vaxxers were getting all this attention. She always said, "if they ever grew up with around people with polio, their tune would change".

Meltdown99 · March 2019

https://twitter.com/globalnews/status/1103897178169212928

Meltdown99 · March 2019

https://twitter.com/CBCVancouver/status/1103705369212272640

josevolution · March 2019

PJPOWER said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

If we were to take a wholly objective view of vaccinations we might have to come to the conclusion that in the long run, they are not helpful. The human species is overpopulated partly because we choose to reproduce widely and partly because we have been successful in extending life through medical means- everything from hernia repair to heart surgery to vaccines. We have cheated basic Darwinism. I'm not saying I'm except from this. Modern medicine has likely save my life a few times. But objectively speaking, is our ability to cheat death good for us? Can any of us seriously say objectively, this is a good thing in the long run? I can't.

This is the cause of so many of earth's problems. I have no problem saying I'm anti-immigration, legally or illegally. People need to stay in thier own neck of the woods and start fixing their own problems. I've had many, many people say Canada is a great big country, we can take in loads ... no, we can't. Take a look at where most of Canada's population is located. We are the 2nd coldest country on earth, the vast majority of this country no one wants to call home because of less than ideal weather. The current government wants to bring 400 thousand a year, and many of these people are coming from countries where childbirth seems to be a hobby...

In Toronto, Canada largest city people struggle to find affordable housing now...Toronto is likely running out of room to expand because there is a protected greenbelt that hinders Toronto ability to expand...

I’m fine with legal immigration and think that those coming here should be evaluated and vaccinated for things like measles and mumps. I also think it is neglectful to not get a child vaccinated to known debilitating diseases. Pull up some pictures of polio wards if you do not think vaccinations are important. Anti-vaxers are nothing short of dumbasses in my personal opinion, on the same level as flat-earthers.

PJ_Soul · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

Meltdown99 · March 2019

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

PJ_Soul · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

HughFreakingDillon · March 2019

on its own, I would have taken it that way as well. but then the rest of his post made it clear to me that it was a friendly comment.

Meltdown99 · March 2019

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

PJ_Soul · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

I didn't read to much or too little. I wasn't sure either way, that's why I mentioned it, lol. I didn't understand where the thought even came from, so I found it confusing. It was just so off topic to me, lol.

Meltdown99 · March 2019

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

I didn't read to much or too little. I wasn't sure either way, that's why I mentioned it, lol. I didn't understand where the thought even came from, so I found it confusing. It was just so off topic to me, lol.

No offence was meant. I cannot ignore the health benefits that I receive from Cannabis, so I am hoping we get to studying this in a lab...should be no shortage of volunteers...and unlike other drugs, they can go right to human trials...

PJ_Soul · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

I didn't read to much or too little. I wasn't sure either way, that's why I mentioned it, lol. I didn't understand where the thought even came from, so I found it confusing. It was just so off topic to me, lol.

No offence was meant. I cannot ignore the health benefits that I receive from Cannabis, so I am hoping we get to studying this in a lab...should be no shortage of volunteers...and unlike other drugs, they can go right to human trials...

I understand that no offense was meant now, haha.

I'm not sure about Ontario, but BC seems to really be embracing it. UBC is now offering courses and increasing all kinds of research, and some colleges are developing new programs so that people can get educated to be in the industry as well.

oftenreading · March 2019

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

but how do you control that? isn't it every species' natural instinct to be as plentiful and widespread as possible? but in most cases, other species or environmental conditions keep that in check. we have no checks anymore.

Right, we have no checks because our intellects and technologies, with the help of our opposable thumbs, have completely outdone nature. It's very unfortunate. And there is no way to control that, only because of that annoying sense of morality we're "burdened" by. Most animals, when the population gets too large for it to be sustainable, will die from disease and famine as they compete for resources until the population is back under control. But people have figured out how to largely overcome disease and famine itself, rather than compete and watch the "losers" die..... And when that isn't happening in certain places in the world, those where resources aren't scarce often try to step in and intervene with medical and food and water supplies, etc etc etc.

I think our check will eventually come back in the form of the species no longer being able to sustain itself, whether it be food resources, climate change survival, etc. it will be devastating. I just (selfishly) hope it doesn't happen in my or my kids lifetimes.

It will be a pandemic IMO. We're getting there, with all the antibiotic resistant bacteria and superbugs and whatnot.
Either way, these are some of the reason I won't be having any kids.

Keep smoking that weed then. It either has health benefits that can save us or at the very least you can get stoned while a pandemic wrecks havick on us...

I don't understand why you said this or why it came to your mind... I don't even know if it's a friendly comment or not, lol.

How did you take that as an unfriendly comment?

"Keep smoking that weed then" isn't necessarily a friendly phrase, lol.

I guess you read to much into it then. I am 100% in support of Cannabis, not just for recreational, but medicinal as well. I think it's safe to assume it does not cause harm, it quite possibly is the one supplement that might provide meaningful health benefits...who knows. Might protect us from a pandemic, who knows...I will continue toking and we'll see.

It isn’t actually safe to assume it causes no harm. Like anything, they are associated harms as well as benefits. There is research proving potential harms, more so as more research gets completed. We’ll be getting a much fuller picture in the years to come but it’s unrealistic and ignores current data to day that there are no harms.

PJ_Soul · March 2019

I think it has at least been well-established that it's not good for developing brains, which means for people under the age of around 25.

josevolution · March 2019

I’ve got a terrible cold so no smoking for me which is fine I really don’t smoke that much these days rather consume thc orally, I’m eating a chocolate to medicate relaxes me so I can just rest ..

oftenreading · March 2019

josevolution said:

I’ve got a terrible cold so no smoking for me which is fine I really don’t smoke that much these days rather consume thc orally, I’m eating a chocolate to medicate relaxes me so I can just rest ..

Get well soon, Jose

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