Poll--The Weakest Link: Lynyrd Skynyrd's 'Second Helping' Round 2

dankind said:

hauntingfamiliar said:

My vote still hasn't changed and I won't tell YEEIUUO no lies!

Our choice sucks.

It's always seemed sort of like the truest LS song to me though, it's just their bread and butter.

MedozK said:

rgambs said:

My Dad is a talented musician and extreme lover of music.  He loves good music of all types.  He grew up rural, but in Ohio.
I couldn't tell you how many times the record player went straight from Yellow Brick Road to Second Helping.  Or Deja Vú to Harvest to Second Helping.  

I've found in my life that 100% of the time, when a person refuses a certain type of music as a whole (southern rock, jazz, rap, country, etc) it's because they are unwilling to like it.  "Not my cup of tea" means "I'm not willing to taste it".

I said the same thing about rap and country when I was a teenager...but I grew up lol

I am still continuing my journey through the 1001 albums to listen to before you die..... and some are TOTALLY not my taste, but I think the more I listen to, the more I appreciate artistry and why the albums are considered great.

Challenges to the music connoisseurs: 
The 1001 Albums to listen to before you die.
https://www.listchallenges.com/1001-albums-you-must-hear-before-you-die-2016

1001 Recordings to hear before you die:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100212234214/http://www.1000recordings.com/the-list

The albums list is a much easier listen, but the recordings list has a MUCH deeper breadth of artistry. It includes, world music, classical, and just much more of an eclectic variety.

If you want a REAL challenge. Listen to this selection from the 1001 Recordings to Hear Before You Die.
Genre: Folk
Artist:  Roscoe Holcomb
Album: The High Lonesome Sound
From the Book:
"Roscoe Holcomb's voice is an acquired taste. It is thin and reedy, scratched and scraggly, with hints of desperation around the edges. Some have described him as a prototypical "mountain man"—singing in wild "get off my land!" bursts, his voice coming across thorny, unapologetic, tetchy, and mean. Before you write him off, however, consider those who have been captivated by his work—among them Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, and Ralph Stanley.

The folklorist John Cohen, who helped bring attention to Holcomb (1911–1981) during the folk revival of the early '60s, characterized his singing style as "the high lonesome sound." That description, which later was attached to Bill Monroe and other bluegrass singers, comes close to catching Holcomb's eerie tone, his faintly otherworldly presence.

This album gathers recordings made in 1961, 1964, and 1974, and shows Holcomb as a singer with zero performance affectation—when he tells a tale like that of "Trouble in Mind," he conveys a completely open, unvarnished humanity. Hear him sing anything and you can tell he's a man who has come to his wisdom one hardship at a time.

Holcomb lived in Daisy, Kentucky, in the Appalachian Mountains, and worked in coal mines and on construction jobs for most of his life. A guitarist who played excellent banjo, Holcomb didn't have a professional career, and during long spans of his life he made music only for himself. His specialties included the blues, hymns (his falsetto style comes from the Old Regular Baptist tradition), and allegorical ballads. His singing isn't smooth; usually he phrases in irregular fits and starts. But if you listen a while, you might well find his music entrancing—the haunted and haunting sound of an America that's a long time gone."

Here is one track "Trouble in Mind" that they talk about in the book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCV7taW-IhA&index=5&list=OLAK5uy_ml_o55T6pgufSQJ0wkpTVqSUtGkBDqs2E

HesCalledDyer said:

tbergs said:

Any of you that either said you don't like LS at all or are sitting this one out grow up in a rural area? Trying to understand the divide here and I feel like that plays a part. 

There may be a correlation but I don’t know that it’s a cause. My hometown was probably around a population of 3500-5000. It’s about 20 miles from where I live now which is only about 20k people.

I was exposed to Skynyrd and other southern rock at a young age. Didn’t like it then, never grew to like it. It’s not that I haven’t tried, refuse, won’t “grow up,” got overexposed, or any other sort of contrarianism. It’s just a style of music that doesn’t do anything for me. I don’t know how better to explain it than that. But a lot of people around here like it, so that makes me more of an outlier than a typical case.

Also, I think @DewieCox quoted me in the last thread. I didn’t mean to imply that Skynyrd, Allmans, Tucker, & ZZ all sound the same. I was just naming a few bands in the sub-genre of southern rock as examples. Like Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, & Nirvana are all in the same genre, I’d never claim they all sound the same.

There’s a lot of different styles of music and bands across many genres and sub-genres that I’m a fan of and own or listen to their music. If I hear a new song that I like, I’ll look the artist up and dive into some of their other stuff to see if I like anything else in their catalog. Hell one of my top 5 artists of all time is an electronic/techno group. Quite a separation from Pearl Jam. One of the current artists I’ve been getting into writes pop songs. I like some punk artists, some jazz, some country, metal, indie, hip-hop, rap, classical, even video game composers. Don’t like Skynyrd, don’t like southern rock in general. It really is just that simple.

Im highly enjoying the discussion, though.

MedozK said:

rgambs said:

My Dad is a talented musician and extreme lover of music.  He loves good music of all types.  He grew up rural, but in Ohio.
I couldn't tell you how many times the record player went straight from Yellow Brick Road to Second Helping.  Or Deja Vú to Harvest to Second Helping.  

I've found in my life that 100% of the time, when a person refuses a certain type of music as a whole (southern rock, jazz, rap, country, etc) it's because they are unwilling to like it.  "Not my cup of tea" means "I'm not willing to taste it".

I said the same thing about rap and country when I was a teenager...but I grew up lol

I am still continuing my journey through the 1001 albums to listen to before you die..... and some are TOTALLY not my taste, but I think the more I listen to, the more I appreciate artistry and why the albums are considered great.

Challenges to the music connoisseurs: 
The 1001 Albums to listen to before you die.
https://www.listchallenges.com/1001-albums-you-must-hear-before-you-die-2016

1001 Recordings to hear before you die:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100212234214/http://www.1000recordings.com/the-list

The albums list is a much easier listen, but the recordings list has a MUCH deeper breadth of artistry. It includes, world music, classical, and just much more of an eclectic variety.

If you want a REAL challenge. Listen to this selection from the 1001 Recordings to Hear Before You Die.
Genre: Folk
Artist:  Roscoe Holcomb
Album: The High Lonesome Sound
From the Book:
"Roscoe Holcomb's voice is an acquired taste. It is thin and reedy, scratched and scraggly, with hints of desperation around the edges. Some have described him as a prototypical "mountain man"—singing in wild "get off my land!" bursts, his voice coming across thorny, unapologetic, tetchy, and mean. Before you write him off, however, consider those who have been captivated by his work—among them Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, and Ralph Stanley.

The folklorist John Cohen, who helped bring attention to Holcomb (1911–1981) during the folk revival of the early '60s, characterized his singing style as "the high lonesome sound." That description, which later was attached to Bill Monroe and other bluegrass singers, comes close to catching Holcomb's eerie tone, his faintly otherworldly presence.

This album gathers recordings made in 1961, 1964, and 1974, and shows Holcomb as a singer with zero performance affectation—when he tells a tale like that of "Trouble in Mind," he conveys a completely open, unvarnished humanity. Hear him sing anything and you can tell he's a man who has come to his wisdom one hardship at a time.

Holcomb lived in Daisy, Kentucky, in the Appalachian Mountains, and worked in coal mines and on construction jobs for most of his life. A guitarist who played excellent banjo, Holcomb didn't have a professional career, and during long spans of his life he made music only for himself. His specialties included the blues, hymns (his falsetto style comes from the Old Regular Baptist tradition), and allegorical ballads. His singing isn't smooth; usually he phrases in irregular fits and starts. But if you listen a while, you might well find his music entrancing—the haunted and haunting sound of an America that's a long time gone."

Here is one track "Trouble in Mind" that they talk about in the book.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCV7taW-IhA&index=5&list=OLAK5uy_ml_o55T6pgufSQJ0wkpTVqSUtGkBDqs2E