'TWO BIG PIGS': Rude woman kicked off flight after fat-shaming meltdown

tempo_n_groove said:

Smellyman said:

Can the Man was our favorite game.  whoever had the ball you chase and tackle the hell out of them.

Yep, rumble fumble, the not so PC now Smear the queer, rack em sack em.  I'm sure it had other names too.

HughFreakingDillon said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

All that extra weight is not good for America or the future.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cancer/obesity-related-cancers-rising-fastest-among-millennials-study-finds-n966656

You know this is interesting because millenials weren't eating McDonalds and things like that and essentially killing the fast food industry and enjoyed better food options ae now being even more obese than before?  I guess it's time to stop w the Netflix and chill and actually go to a bar and catch a movie at the theatre?

Or get off the devices and go outside and play, run around and throw dirt bombs at each other, play frisbee football in the street and run from the driver's who's car you just bombed with snowballs.

Oh man I used to love when they gave chase after nailing them with snowballs!

Something else this generation doesn't understand is "skitching".  Not sure what you guys called it but it was when there was snow on the ground and you were towed behind a car.  Basically grabbing a bumper and skiing with just boots.

we called it bumpershining. 

tempo_n_groove said:

mace1229 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Smellyman said:

Can the Man was our favorite game.  whoever had the ball you chase and tackle the hell out of them.

Yep, rumble fumble, the not so PC now Smear the queer, rack em sack em.  I'm sure it had other names too.

We only ever called it smear the queer as a kid. In the mid 80's no one seemed to think twice about that. Honestly, I don't think anyone of us in elementary school, when we played it, knew what that word meant.
I love when childhood games come up and that gets mentioned and the other person has no idea when you're talking about. When you try to explain it they look at you all weird and say "so why would anyone grab the ball if you just get tackled? What's the advantage of that?" Because there really is no answer.

lol.

My father taught us kids on the block Kick the can.  It wasn't heard of in our age group but we liked it and played it.  I remember seeing it in the newer Twilight Zone movies.  Only time I've ever seen it mentioned in a film or show.

Anybody play "butts up"?!?  Bounce the ball on the coin to make it flip?  Loser bends over and winner throws the ball at them.

Way off topic...

Sorry OP.

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

Smellyman, how about reading the article? It's FULL of science, made especially for people like you. Good grief.

It isn't full of science.
It mentions one outdated study and the author uses his personal opinion to extrapolate irresponsibly.
Diets absolutely do work!  All of them!
The problem is people, people don't work diets.  The reason isn't biological and it isn't immutable, it's simple willpower.
If metabolic rate really responded so vigorously, and had such a profound effect, then people who lose weight and keep it off would be medical anomalies.  They aren't.

Fat shaming isn't cool, and I'm sorry your doctors weren't very kind, but food addiction is serious and pretending it doesn't exist won't make it go away.
I say this with confidence as a serious food addict who suffers periods of bulimia in my battle with sugar.

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

Smellyman, how about reading the article? It's FULL of science, made especially for people like you. Good grief.

It isn't full of science.
It mentions one outdated study and the author uses his personal opinion to extrapolate irresponsibly.
Diets absolutely do work!  All of them!
The problem is people, people don't work diets.  The reason isn't biological and it isn't immutable, it's simple willpower.
If metabolic rate really responded so vigorously, and had such a profound effect, then people who lose weight and keep it off would be medical anomalies.  They aren't.

Fat shaming isn't cool, and I'm sorry your doctors weren't very kind, but food addiction is serious and pretending it doesn't exist won't make it go away.
I say this with confidence as a serious food addict who suffers periods of bulimia in my battle with sugar.

For sure, it absolutely is not just "simple willpower" for some people, and it's harmful to the entire problem to go around insisting that it is.

For some, that is what it's about, yes, and they know it themselves better than anyone, so I don't know why in the fuck others feel the need to remind them. I think those people are just being mean assholes. But for others, no way - it's far more powerful than that. Anyone who rejects this must be lacking empathy or something, I don't know. It's equivalent to people saying "just suck it up" to those who suffer from depression or an anxiety disorder. It's hurtful and ignorant.

For sure, it IS simple willpower.  The laws of thermodynamics are immutable. 

It might be hurtful for some to hear, but people do need to suck it up when it comes to depression, anxiety, obesity, addiction and every other fucking problem.  Some people have an incredibly hard row to hoe, and I do empathize with that, but everyone I've known in life that had to hoe one of those rows did so by sucking it the fuck up.  That's how you get out of the bed in the morning and keep on living.  Nearly everyone is sucking it up nearly all the time in one way or the other, to some degree.  Some have it easy, some have it hard.  Unfortunately for them, the hard cases just have to suck up a shit ton more.

You talk of empathy, but you really mean sympathy.  When I broke down and ate a Taco Bell 5$Box and a 5th Avenue for lunch today, I did so with cognisant empathy for the struggles of obese people, knowing how hard it is to make the right choice when faced with an obviously wrong, but attractive choice.  
Addicts know they are addicted and know what choices they should be making, acknowledging that isn't a lack of empathy, and pretending otherwise isn't empathy.  It isn't even sympathy, it's dishonest pity.

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

Smellyman, how about reading the article? It's FULL of science, made especially for people like you. Good grief.

It isn't full of science.
It mentions one outdated study and the author uses his personal opinion to extrapolate irresponsibly.
Diets absolutely do work!  All of them!
The problem is people, people don't work diets.  The reason isn't biological and it isn't immutable, it's simple willpower.
If metabolic rate really responded so vigorously, and had such a profound effect, then people who lose weight and keep it off would be medical anomalies.  They aren't.

Fat shaming isn't cool, and I'm sorry your doctors weren't very kind, but food addiction is serious and pretending it doesn't exist won't make it go away.
I say this with confidence as a serious food addict who suffers periods of bulimia in my battle with sugar.

For sure, it absolutely is not just "simple willpower" for some people, and it's harmful to the entire problem to go around insisting that it is.

For some, that is what it's about, yes, and they know it themselves better than anyone, so I don't know why in the fuck others feel the need to remind them. I think those people are just being mean assholes. But for others, no way - it's far more powerful than that. Anyone who rejects this must be lacking empathy or something, I don't know. It's equivalent to people saying "just suck it up" to those who suffer from depression or an anxiety disorder. It's hurtful and ignorant.

For sure, it IS simple willpower.  The laws of thermodynamics are immutable. 

It might be hurtful for some to hear, but people do need to suck it up when it comes to depression, anxiety, obesity, addiction and every other fucking problem.  Some people have an incredibly hard row to hoe, and I do empathize with that, but everyone I've known in life that had to hoe one of those rows did so by sucking it the fuck up.  That's how you get out of the bed in the morning and keep on living.  Nearly everyone is sucking it up nearly all the time in one way or the other, to some degree.  Some have it easy, some have it hard.  Unfortunately for them, the hard cases just have to suck up a shit ton more.

You talk of empathy, but you really mean sympathy.  When I broke down and ate a Taco Bell 5$Box and a 5th Avenue for lunch today, I did so with cognisant empathy for the struggles of obese people, knowing how hard it is to make the right choice when faced with an obviously wrong, but attractive choice.  
Addicts know they are addicted and know what choices they should be making, acknowledging that isn't a lack of empathy, and pretending otherwise isn't empathy.  It isn't even sympathy, it's dishonest pity.

Saying someone should suck it up when they suffer from a mental illness is hugely ignorant at best. Everything you said here just proves how you totally don't really understand mental illness. Attitudes like this are what's keeping the terrible, harmful stigmas about mental illness alive. Yes, even with all your disclaimers thrown in. And no, I mean EMPATHY. Not sympathy. You don't have empathy when it comes to this topic at all. You've just proven it.

actually, he is correct. he uses terms like "suck it up", and that may offend, but what he means is actually correct. And I know from experience of the past 20+ years. 

is depression a choice? no. no mental illness is. but how you react to it, ultimately, is. getting out of bed. getting help. living. it can be incredibly difficult (as seen in my sick accrual at work), but it IS ultimately a choice. 

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

Smellyman, how about reading the article? It's FULL of science, made especially for people like you. Good grief.

It isn't full of science.
It mentions one outdated study and the author uses his personal opinion to extrapolate irresponsibly.
Diets absolutely do work!  All of them!
The problem is people, people don't work diets.  The reason isn't biological and it isn't immutable, it's simple willpower.
If metabolic rate really responded so vigorously, and had such a profound effect, then people who lose weight and keep it off would be medical anomalies.  They aren't.

Fat shaming isn't cool, and I'm sorry your doctors weren't very kind, but food addiction is serious and pretending it doesn't exist won't make it go away.
I say this with confidence as a serious food addict who suffers periods of bulimia in my battle with sugar.

For sure, it absolutely is not just "simple willpower" for some people, and it's harmful to the entire problem to go around insisting that it is.

For some, that is what it's about, yes, and they know it themselves better than anyone, so I don't know why in the fuck others feel the need to remind them. I think those people are just being mean assholes. But for others, no way - it's far more powerful than that. Anyone who rejects this must be lacking empathy or something, I don't know. It's equivalent to people saying "just suck it up" to those who suffer from depression or an anxiety disorder. It's hurtful and ignorant.

For sure, it IS simple willpower.  The laws of thermodynamics are immutable. 

It might be hurtful for some to hear, but people do need to suck it up when it comes to depression, anxiety, obesity, addiction and every other fucking problem.  Some people have an incredibly hard row to hoe, and I do empathize with that, but everyone I've known in life that had to hoe one of those rows did so by sucking it the fuck up.  That's how you get out of the bed in the morning and keep on living.  Nearly everyone is sucking it up nearly all the time in one way or the other, to some degree.  Some have it easy, some have it hard.  Unfortunately for them, the hard cases just have to suck up a shit ton more.

You talk of empathy, but you really mean sympathy.  When I broke down and ate a Taco Bell 5$Box and a 5th Avenue for lunch today, I did so with cognisant empathy for the struggles of obese people, knowing how hard it is to make the right choice when faced with an obviously wrong, but attractive choice.  
Addicts know they are addicted and know what choices they should be making, acknowledging that isn't a lack of empathy, and pretending otherwise isn't empathy.  It isn't even sympathy, it's dishonest pity.

Saying someone should suck it up when they suffer from a mental illness is hugely ignorant at best. Everything you said here just proves how you totally don't really understand mental illness. Attitudes like this are what's keeping the terrible, harmful stigmas about mental illness alive. Yes, even with all your disclaimers thrown in. And no, I mean EMPATHY. Not sympathy. You don't have empathy when it comes to this topic at all. You've just proven it.

actually, he is correct. he uses terms like "suck it up", and that may offend, but what he means is actually correct. And I know from experience of the past 20+ years. 

is depression a choice? no. no mental illness is. but how you react to it, ultimately, is. getting out of bed. getting help. living. it can be incredibly difficult (as seen in my sick accrual at work), but it IS ultimately a choice. 

Not for everyone it's not. And "suck it up" is a VERY offensive term that is completely unnecessary and inaccurate IMO. Fighting a battle is not "sucking it up" or anything close to it IMO.

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

Smellyman, how about reading the article? It's FULL of science, made especially for people like you. Good grief.

It isn't full of science.
It mentions one outdated study and the author uses his personal opinion to extrapolate irresponsibly.
Diets absolutely do work!  All of them!
The problem is people, people don't work diets.  The reason isn't biological and it isn't immutable, it's simple willpower.
If metabolic rate really responded so vigorously, and had such a profound effect, then people who lose weight and keep it off would be medical anomalies.  They aren't.

Fat shaming isn't cool, and I'm sorry your doctors weren't very kind, but food addiction is serious and pretending it doesn't exist won't make it go away.
I say this with confidence as a serious food addict who suffers periods of bulimia in my battle with sugar.

For sure, it absolutely is not just "simple willpower" for some people, and it's harmful to the entire problem to go around insisting that it is.

For some, that is what it's about, yes, and they know it themselves better than anyone, so I don't know why in the fuck others feel the need to remind them. I think those people are just being mean assholes. But for others, no way - it's far more powerful than that. Anyone who rejects this must be lacking empathy or something, I don't know. It's equivalent to people saying "just suck it up" to those who suffer from depression or an anxiety disorder. It's hurtful and ignorant.

For sure, it IS simple willpower.  The laws of thermodynamics are immutable. 

It might be hurtful for some to hear, but people do need to suck it up when it comes to depression, anxiety, obesity, addiction and every other fucking problem.  Some people have an incredibly hard row to hoe, and I do empathize with that, but everyone I've known in life that had to hoe one of those rows did so by sucking it the fuck up.  That's how you get out of the bed in the morning and keep on living.  Nearly everyone is sucking it up nearly all the time in one way or the other, to some degree.  Some have it easy, some have it hard.  Unfortunately for them, the hard cases just have to suck up a shit ton more.

You talk of empathy, but you really mean sympathy.  When I broke down and ate a Taco Bell 5$Box and a 5th Avenue for lunch today, I did so with cognisant empathy for the struggles of obese people, knowing how hard it is to make the right choice when faced with an obviously wrong, but attractive choice.  
Addicts know they are addicted and know what choices they should be making, acknowledging that isn't a lack of empathy, and pretending otherwise isn't empathy.  It isn't even sympathy, it's dishonest pity.

Saying someone should suck it up when they suffer from a mental illness is hugely ignorant at best. Everything you said here just proves how you totally don't really understand mental illness. Attitudes like this are what's keeping the terrible, harmful stigmas about mental illness alive. Yes, even with all your disclaimers thrown in. And no, I mean EMPATHY. Not sympathy. You don't have empathy when it comes to this topic at all. You've just proven it.

actually, he is correct. he uses terms like "suck it up", and that may offend, but what he means is actually correct. And I know from experience of the past 20+ years. 

is depression a choice? no. no mental illness is. but how you react to it, ultimately, is. getting out of bed. getting help. living. it can be incredibly difficult (as seen in my sick accrual at work), but it IS ultimately a choice. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

PJ_Soul said:

rgambs said:

what dreams said:

Smellyman, how about reading the article? It's FULL of science, made especially for people like you. Good grief.

It isn't full of science.
It mentions one outdated study and the author uses his personal opinion to extrapolate irresponsibly.
Diets absolutely do work!  All of them!
The problem is people, people don't work diets.  The reason isn't biological and it isn't immutable, it's simple willpower.
If metabolic rate really responded so vigorously, and had such a profound effect, then people who lose weight and keep it off would be medical anomalies.  They aren't.

Fat shaming isn't cool, and I'm sorry your doctors weren't very kind, but food addiction is serious and pretending it doesn't exist won't make it go away.
I say this with confidence as a serious food addict who suffers periods of bulimia in my battle with sugar.

For sure, it absolutely is not just "simple willpower" for some people, and it's harmful to the entire problem to go around insisting that it is.

For some, that is what it's about, yes, and they know it themselves better than anyone, so I don't know why in the fuck others feel the need to remind them. I think those people are just being mean assholes. But for others, no way - it's far more powerful than that. Anyone who rejects this must be lacking empathy or something, I don't know. It's equivalent to people saying "just suck it up" to those who suffer from depression or an anxiety disorder. It's hurtful and ignorant.

For sure, it IS simple willpower.  The laws of thermodynamics are immutable. 

It might be hurtful for some to hear, but people do need to suck it up when it comes to depression, anxiety, obesity, addiction and every other fucking problem.  Some people have an incredibly hard row to hoe, and I do empathize with that, but everyone I've known in life that had to hoe one of those rows did so by sucking it the fuck up.  That's how you get out of the bed in the morning and keep on living.  Nearly everyone is sucking it up nearly all the time in one way or the other, to some degree.  Some have it easy, some have it hard.  Unfortunately for them, the hard cases just have to suck up a shit ton more.

You talk of empathy, but you really mean sympathy.  When I broke down and ate a Taco Bell 5$Box and a 5th Avenue for lunch today, I did so with cognisant empathy for the struggles of obese people, knowing how hard it is to make the right choice when faced with an obviously wrong, but attractive choice.  
Addicts know they are addicted and know what choices they should be making, acknowledging that isn't a lack of empathy, and pretending otherwise isn't empathy.  It isn't even sympathy, it's dishonest pity.

Saying someone should suck it up when they suffer from a mental illness is hugely ignorant at best. Everything you said here just proves how you totally don't really understand mental illness. Attitudes like this are what's keeping the terrible, harmful stigmas about mental illness alive. Yes, even with all your disclaimers thrown in. And no, I mean EMPATHY. Not sympathy. You don't have empathy when it comes to this topic at all. You've just proven it.

actually, he is correct. he uses terms like "suck it up", and that may offend, but what he means is actually correct. And I know from experience of the past 20+ years. 

is depression a choice? no. no mental illness is. but how you react to it, ultimately, is. getting out of bed. getting help. living. it can be incredibly difficult (as seen in my sick accrual at work), but it IS ultimately a choice. 

Not for everyone it's not. And "suck it up" is a VERY offensive term that is completely unnecessary and inaccurate IMO. Fighting a battle is not "sucking it up" or anything close to it IMO.

haha, ok. I speak from a pretty serious standpoint here. not sure if you have any, but I'll tell you this:

depression makes it FUCKING DIFFICULT to a point where you sometimes feel like it is physically difficult to move. But you can move. depression isn't physically making it so  you can't get out of bed. as much as it feels like it. seriously, I once sat on my couch for 8 hours without moving. Because I literally felt like I couldn't. but I could. once I made the choice to do so, in rgambs terms, "sucking it up". I know what you mean about that term seemingly being offensive to people with mental illness, I just happen to know how he speaks, so it's not offensive to me in this context.