'TWO BIG PIGS': Rude woman kicked off flight after fat-shaming meltdown

tempo_n_groove · January 2019

F Me In The Brain said:

brianlux said:

F Me In The Brain said:

brianlux said:

I don't think her complaint is unjustified but the way she went about it sure is. She could have just discretely gone up to one of the flight attendants and explained the situation and asked is there were other options for seating. Then maybe they could have put a kid or someone small who would fit in the tight space. This could have been handled way better. But then, a lot of people just prefer to be pissed off.

It's also sad that obesity is so common that this kind of thing happens more often than it used to. There have been reports of several similar situations on airplanes. When I in middle school and high school my father worked for a major airline and we flew about once a year and never had a problem with not having enough room to sit on the plane. Part of that may be that seats are smaller, but in general, so were people.

I think this is a good take on what we saw there.

The woman who was in the middle seat is obviously not a nice person. To talk on the phone loudly like that while on a plane is enough reason for me to have a problem with people....but to do so in a way to clearly antagonize the two human beings sitting on either side of her is just plain mean.

That being stated.....it is total bullshit that the airline provides individuals single tickets when they cannot fit in the seats. I have flown as many as 40-50 trips a year (which means 80-100 flights if all were direct to/from) over the past 7 years since moving and the best part about status on the plane is being able to pick the aisle seat. I can move the armrest up and slide over if the person beside me is obese.

Historically I have been in the position this woman was in -- recall one flight from Detroit to La Guardia in particular where one of the obese people also smelled like they had rolled in goat turds for an hour before boarding. I honestly was ok with the plane crashing about halfway through our trip. Miserable.

They don't let you bring more luggage than will fit, they should make people buy 2 seats if they cannot fit properly in one. I know they did this to Kevin Smith on Southwest a while back and got some negative pub for it.

The closest I had to any sort of altercation was one time where the woman who came and sat next to me in the middle seat wanted to put the armrest up and I asked her to keep it down. I know am sure it was uncomfortable for her based on her size, but I did not want her body pressed against mine for hours. If that makes me a bad person I guess I am OK with it. I try to be the best that I can, but I am sure I fall short at times.

This lady was horrible about it and I am shocked she did not have a red hat on with the way she thought it was OK to treat people.
(A footnote to the woman who taped this...calling someone a bitch is verbally abusive. Not that I blame her given how the woman was with her....I think the shoe fits.)

Good points all around. I'm glad my job doesn't require flying. I think I'd have to change careers.

I have a solid routine and follow it. Actually do not mind, for the most part.
The largest drawback, unsurprisingly, is people. People who fly infrequently and do not understand how to make things go smoothly. I get it but it is an annoyance. The biggest one is rude ass people. People like this woman. People who act like the plane is their shitty apartment.
Watching people at airports is a master-class in human behavior and in particular, why Americans are viewed the way we are.
I am bitter when I cannot go into the airport clubs and escape the behavior of the masses. So many drunk, loud, intolerant, abusive, ignorant people. It really is incredible. I have seen SO many things I never thought I would see -- I can only imagine what the stories are like from people who work at airports.

I used to fly frequently and was always surprised at how many people it seemed were flying for the first time.

Doesn't anyone pay attention to what the other 20 people did in front of you?

Also thread integrity, I sat next to a very large co-worker who wasn't always pleasant smelling on a flight that was going to be 14 hours long.

I asked the flight attendant to please find me another seat and they did.

Smellyman · January 2019

I hate every aspect of plane travel nowadays. The moment on the way to the airport to leaving the airport. It all f'ing sucks.

Trying to talk my wife into a sailboat.

Spiritual_Chaos · January 2019

F Me In The Brain said:
I have a solid routine and follow it. Actually do not mind, for the most part.
The largest drawback, unsurprisingly, is people. People who fly infrequently and do not understand how to make things go smoothly. I get it but it is an annoyance. The biggest one is rude ass people. People like this woman. People who act like the plane is their shitty apartment.
Watching people at airports is a master-class in human behavior and in particular, why Americans are viewed the way we are.
I am bitter when I cannot go into the airport clubs and escape the behavior of the masses. So many drunk, loud, intolerant, abusive, ignorant people. It really is incredible. I have seen SO many things I never thought I would see -- I can only imagine what the stories are like from people who work at airports.

tempo_n_groove · January 2019

Smellyman said:

I hate every aspect of plane travel nowadays. The moment on the way to the airport to leaving the airport. It all f'ing sucks.

Trying to talk my wife into a sailboat.

Flying is very fun when you focus on "people watching".

I loved it.

F Me In The Brain · January 2019

tempo_n_groove said:

Smellyman said:

I hate every aspect of plane travel nowadays. The moment on the way to the airport to leaving the airport. It all f'ing sucks.

Trying to talk my wife into a sailboat.

Flying is very fun when you focus on "people watching".

I loved it.

There was a time when I felt that way too.

No longer.

Now I keep my head down and go to whichever one of the lounges I can gain access to. The shitty small airports often do not have them so I am stuck observing at that point...nothing to do about it.

Once on the plane I have my head down as often as I can as well. Sitting in the first few rows (or 1st class if I can bump) generally puts me with other frequent fliers who know to generally keep their heads down as well. Some fuckers are like this blonde lady who choose to be rude and treat the seat as their personal office. Most, do not.

mace1229 · January 2019

I really only hate flying on the holidays. Its much crazier, security lines take twice as long. Other than that I really don't mind it.

It does seem unfair to be stuck in that situation, but how that lady handled makes me have zero sympathy for her. You should be entitled to a certain amount of space, and when someone encroaches on it whether it be due to weight or any other reason, it really isn't fair.

I've always found it ironic that airlines are so strict with weight limits for luggage and overhead space, but then I seem them squeeze a 350 lb person into 1 seat.

tempo_n_groove · January 2019

mace1229 said:

I really only hate flying on the holidays. Its much crazier, security lines take twice as long. Other than that I really don't mind it.

It does seem unfair to be stuck in that situation, but how that lady handled makes me have zero sympathy for her. You should be entitled to a certain amount of space, and when someone encroaches on it whether it be due to weight or any other reason, it really isn't fair.

I've always found it ironic that airlines are so strict with weight limits for luggage and overhead space, but then I seem them squeeze a 350 lb person into 1 seat.

The guy i mentioned before was pushing 400lbs. He carried his own, yes his very own, "extender belt" for the seat belt so he wouldn't have to ask for one.

Guy traveled with his own. How money is that?

PJ_Soul · January 2019

Meltdown99 said:

Smellyman said:

How about this guy?

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/overweight-passenger-forces-eva-air-flight-attendants-to-wipe-his-backside

I read that. He is a disgusting POS that should have been wheeled off the plane in mid-flight...

But the flight attendant should have refused after she punched him in the nose and throat...

But in all seriousness, just leave the pig in the bathroom with his pants down. If you are travelling and require personal care then you bring your own support worker.

Absolutely. If I'd been that flight attendant I would have told him to pound sand. I also would have told him that he's not allowed back to his seat with a shitty ass, so he better figure out a way to wipe it, or stay in the bathroom. I seriously can't believe the flight attendant actually agreed to do that.

Spiritual_Chaos · January 2019

Society shouldn't cater to people being overly obese.

F Me In The Brain · January 2019

They have issues with their glands, it is not their fault.

mace1229 · January 2019

F Me In The Brain said:

They have issues with their glands, it is not their fault.

Definitely true for some. Definitely not true for others.
I have a friend who stops by 7-11 and gets a 64 oz soda every morning. That is just one of several soft drinks he has in the day. He also weighs over 300 lbs.
But others do have genetic/gland issues for sure.
Comparing America to other countries, our weight issues and our eating habits, I think its easy to say eating habits is a large contributor to it.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · January 2019

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

They have issues with their glands, it is not their fault.

Definitely true for some. Definitely not true for others.
I have a friend who stops by 7-11 and gets a 64 oz soda every morning. That is just one of several soft drinks he has in the day. He also weighs over 300 lbs.
But others do have genetic/gland issues for sure.
Comparing America to other countries, our weight issues and our eating habits, I think its easy to say eating habits is a large contributor to it.

The glandular problems can be managed, but they are challenging for sure.

My experience in America (ball parks, stadiums, airports, malls, etc.) is one that depicts over-indulgence as the root cause of the US' obesity problem.

brianlux · January 2019

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

They have issues with their glands, it is not their fault.

Definitely true for some. Definitely not true for others.
I have a friend who stops by 7-11 and gets a 64 oz soda every morning. That is just one of several soft drinks he has in the day. He also weighs over 300 lbs.
But others do have genetic/gland issues for sure.
Comparing America to other countries, our weight issues and our eating habits, I think its easy to say eating habits is a large contributor to it.

The glandular problems can be managed, but they are challenging for sure.

My experience in America (ball parks, stadiums, airports, malls, etc.) is one that depicts over-indulgence as the root cause of the US' obesity problem.

That's most likely the case with a woman I saw in a gas station the other day. She was in line in front of me and had her arms loaded with potato chips, candy, and other assorted junk food and a large soft drink. She was huge. Oh, and she also bought cigarettes. And this is not an uncommon sight.

F Me In The Brain · January 2019

Agree with the 3 of you- gland comment was sarcasm.

mace1229 · January 2019

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

They have issues with their glands, it is not their fault.

Definitely true for some. Definitely not true for others.
I have a friend who stops by 7-11 and gets a 64 oz soda every morning. That is just one of several soft drinks he has in the day. He also weighs over 300 lbs.
But others do have genetic/gland issues for sure.
Comparing America to other countries, our weight issues and our eating habits, I think its easy to say eating habits is a large contributor to it.

The glandular problems can be managed, but they are challenging for sure.

My experience in America (ball parks, stadiums, airports, malls, etc.) is one that depicts over-indulgence as the root cause of the US' obesity problem.

Do other countries even have All-you-can-eat buffets?
Go to Golden Corral and look at the average weight of people there, and either gland issues are an epidemic in America, or people just overeat.
Again, that isn't all who are obese, but it definitely seems like eating habits are the bigger factor.

F Me In The Brain · January 2019

We here in America are so far away from eating actual food, on the whole, and I think this compounds the issues.

Even if people do not overeat, they eat processed and shit filled foods. Stuff is awful for us -- how in the hell does a body break all of that garbage down?

My wife is a crazed woman with buying organic and food that is actually made up of food (and not things you cannot pronounce) as often as she can -- and the expense is huge compared to how other food is sold. I recently marveled at what a young couple in front of my at the local supermarket got for $57.00. I had half as many items (or less) than they did and my shit cost about 3x what they got.

Unhealthy? Yes, but that might be what they need to do so that their family can eat. (Neither of them appeared to be unhealthy.)

Also -- the assholes who designed the way people should eat made grains/cereals one of the 4 food groups. (USDA) Why in the fuck do we need to eat bread? We don't. Does bread grow on a tree? Do we hunt it? We don't need it. Lots of reasons to not eat it to excess.

Something that blew us away recently was the revelation that a school lunch requirement for vegetables can be met with french fries.

Fucking french fries count as vegetables? (Yes, as 'starchy vegetables'...)

It is no wonder we are a country of huge people.

We treat smokers like serial killers here....but it is OK to serve gigantic plates of "food", soda, and to offer deserts and add-ons to nearly every meal. Good idea to shame the fuck out of anyone who chooses to smoke and provide super sized meals with fake food to people from a young age. (And also to make endless excuses for those who choose to over-eat)

Meltdown99 · January 2019

mace1229 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

They have issues with their glands, it is not their fault.

Definitely true for some. Definitely not true for others.
I have a friend who stops by 7-11 and gets a 64 oz soda every morning. That is just one of several soft drinks he has in the day. He also weighs over 300 lbs.
But others do have genetic/gland issues for sure.
Comparing America to other countries, our weight issues and our eating habits, I think its easy to say eating habits is a large contributor to it.

The glandular problems can be managed, but they are challenging for sure.

My experience in America (ball parks, stadiums, airports, malls, etc.) is one that depicts over-indulgence as the root cause of the US' obesity problem.

Do other countries even have All-you-can-eat buffets?
Go to Golden Corral and look at the average weight of people there, and either gland issues are an epidemic in America, or people just overeat.
Again, that isn't all who are obese, but it definitely seems like eating habits are the bigger factor.

Yup. One of Ontario most popular restaurant is an all you can eat Chinese restaurant. Canadians are catching up to Americans...

Halifax2TheMax · January 2019

F Me In The Brain said:

We here in America are so far away from eating actual food, on the whole, and I think this compounds the issues.
Even if people do not overeat, they eat processed and shit filled foods. Stuff is awful for us -- how in the hell does a body break all of that garbage down?
My wife is a crazed woman with buying organic and food that is actually made up of food (and not things you cannot pronounce) as often as she can -- and the expense is huge compared to how other food is sold. I recently marveled at what a young couple in front of my at the local supermarket got for $57.00. I had half as many items (or less) than they did and my shit cost about 3x what they got.
Unhealthy? Yes, but that might be what they need to do so that their family can eat. (Neither of them appeared to be unhealthy.)

Also -- the assholes who designed the way people should eat made grains/cereals one of the 4 food groups. (USDA) Why in the fuck do we need to eat bread? We don't. Does bread grow on a tree? Do we hunt it? We don't need it. Lots of reasons to not eat it to excess.

Something that blew us away recently was the revelation that a school lunch requirement for vegetables can be met with french fries.
Fucking french fries count as vegetables? (Yes, as 'starchy vegetables'...)

It is no wonder we are a country of huge people.

We treat smokers like serial killers here....but it is OK to serve gigantic plates of "food", soda, and to offer deserts and add-ons to nearly every meal. Good idea to shame the fuck out of anyone who chooses to smoke and provide super sized meals with fake food to people from a young age. (And also to make endless excuses for those who choose to over-eat)

At least it’s a step up from when Reagan declared ketchup a vegetable. Question is, do school lunch programs serve both?

PJ_Soul · January 2019

Meltdown99 said:

mace1229 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

They have issues with their glands, it is not their fault.

Definitely true for some. Definitely not true for others.
I have a friend who stops by 7-11 and gets a 64 oz soda every morning. That is just one of several soft drinks he has in the day. He also weighs over 300 lbs.
But others do have genetic/gland issues for sure.
Comparing America to other countries, our weight issues and our eating habits, I think its easy to say eating habits is a large contributor to it.

The glandular problems can be managed, but they are challenging for sure.

My experience in America (ball parks, stadiums, airports, malls, etc.) is one that depicts over-indulgence as the root cause of the US' obesity problem.

Do other countries even have All-you-can-eat buffets?
Go to Golden Corral and look at the average weight of people there, and either gland issues are an epidemic in America, or people just overeat.
Again, that isn't all who are obese, but it definitely seems like eating habits are the bigger factor.

Yup. One of Ontario most popular restaurant is an all you can eat Chinese restaurant. Canadians are catching up to Americans...

I don't think it's a Canadian thing per se, if that's true. Sounds regional to me. Maybe Ontario is catching up to America, but BC sure isn't. I've noticed that we had a little bit of an all-you-can-eat surge in the 90s, but it totally fell off after that, and you're now fairly hard pressed to find an all-you-can-eat place in metro Vancouver. There are still a few sushi places that offer it if you want (never busy), a couple fish & chips chains that do it (also never busy - I'm surprised they are still in business actually), and a small handful of other places, but none are doing great business with it, and many places that tried it have closed down. Nobody seems very interested in this concept at all anymore - it's more a "I'm really poor and need to try and stuff myself for cheap because I'm not going to eat well for the rest of the week" kind of thing to do, from what I can tell. And there definitely isn't any all-you-can-eat chain in BC that could be considered popular. The last really popular place like that here was probably The Sizzler, and I haven't seen one of those in decades.

The 24/7 residence dining hall here on campus is "all-you-care-to-eat" though, but nobody goes to gorge. It's just set up so that everyone can go in any time and serve themselves, and make their own sandwiches and waffles and stuff. It's really just a serve yourself place, not a place where people want to go and stuff themselves stupid. And it's all highly nutritious food (excluding some fries and a couple desserts), which is obviously an important distinction.

F Me In The Brain · January 2019

Halifax2TheMax said:

F Me In The Brain said:

We here in America are so far away from eating actual food, on the whole, and I think this compounds the issues.
Even if people do not overeat, they eat processed and shit filled foods. Stuff is awful for us -- how in the hell does a body break all of that garbage down?
My wife is a crazed woman with buying organic and food that is actually made up of food (and not things you cannot pronounce) as often as she can -- and the expense is huge compared to how other food is sold. I recently marveled at what a young couple in front of my at the local supermarket got for $57.00. I had half as many items (or less) than they did and my shit cost about 3x what they got.
Unhealthy? Yes, but that might be what they need to do so that their family can eat. (Neither of them appeared to be unhealthy.)

Also -- the assholes who designed the way people should eat made grains/cereals one of the 4 food groups. (USDA) Why in the fuck do we need to eat bread? We don't. Does bread grow on a tree? Do we hunt it? We don't need it. Lots of reasons to not eat it to excess.

Something that blew us away recently was the revelation that a school lunch requirement for vegetables can be met with french fries.
Fucking french fries count as vegetables? (Yes, as 'starchy vegetables'...)

It is no wonder we are a country of huge people.

We treat smokers like serial killers here....but it is OK to serve gigantic plates of "food", soda, and to offer deserts and add-ons to nearly every meal. Good idea to shame the fuck out of anyone who chooses to smoke and provide super sized meals with fake food to people from a young age. (And also to make endless excuses for those who choose to over-eat)

At least it’s a step up from when Reagan declared ketchup a vegetable. Question is, do school lunch programs serve both?

Yes, I think they do provide the tomato based sugar delivery system aka ketchup for the starchy vegetables.

'TWO BIG PIGS': Rude woman kicked off flight after fat-shaming meltdown

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