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  • mrussel1
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    The Juggler said:
    Buzzfeed was the first outlet to report on the the Trump Tower Moscow project back in May of last year. So I guess it makes sense for them to be the one's to break this story. Probably a lot of the same sources?
    Correct.  They appear to have a source that is tied into this slice of the investigation.  
  • mickeyrat
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    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    is this a thing yet?
    If the Buzzfeed report is right, impeachment articles are absolutely on their way.  
    Yeah, but does the Senate HAVE to try him? McConnell could conceivably argue a like point to the no hearing for Garland decision. The article in question states the senate has the sole power to try a case. Not that it must. and a simple majority can vote to dismiss from some sources I have read on this.
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  • OnWis97
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    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    is this a thing yet?
    If the Buzzfeed report is right, impeachment articles are absolutely on their way.  
    Yeah, but does the Senate HAVE to try him? McConnell could conceivably argue a like point to the no hearing for Garland decision. The article in question states the senate has the sole power to try a case. Not that it must. and a simple majority can vote to dismiss from some sources I have read on this.
    Absolutely.  It's already established that the Senate GOP can clam up and stop doing it's job to own the libs.  They could do so here, free of consequence.  The only way they'd pursue this is if the public (and by that I mean Republicans, who support him at an 85-90% clip) starts to indicate that they want it pursued.  That would take video evidence of Trump saying "Michael, I want you to  do this for me...yes I know I am committing a felony, but I work for Russia and not America." (and I still think his GOP support would hold at above 50%).
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  • mrussel1
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    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    is this a thing yet?
    If the Buzzfeed report is right, impeachment articles are absolutely on their way.  
    Yeah, but does the Senate HAVE to try him? McConnell could conceivably argue a like point to the no hearing for Garland decision. The article in question states the senate has the sole power to try a case. Not that it must. and a simple majority can vote to dismiss from some sources I have read on this.
    No, I don't think he can if the House votes to advance the impeachment articles.  I think he Constitutionally obligated to have the trial.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    is this a thing yet?
    If the Buzzfeed report is right, impeachment articles are absolutely on their way.  
    Yeah, but does the Senate HAVE to try him? McConnell could conceivably argue a like point to the no hearing for Garland decision. The article in question states the senate has the sole power to try a case. Not that it must. and a simple majority can vote to dismiss from some sources I have read on this.
    I think if the house votes to impeachment, the senate is obligated to try the case. Yes, they have the sole power and if they refused, it would be a constitutional crisis with the Supreme Court having to weigh in. After all the Hillary accusations and investigations and the senate not holding one of their own accountable for evidence backed felonies? The USA will be forever known as a banana republic and it’ll be time to move.
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  • mrussel1
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    I just heard John Dean say that the Senate could choose not to take up the trial.  Dean would know.. he did his share of lawyering and political crime. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    I just heard John Dean say that the Senate could choose not to take up the trial.  Dean would know.. he did his share of lawyering and political crime. 
    That would be totally fucked up but I think you’d have the dem house just stop everything. And if mitchy baby were to do that, then they’re opening the executive branch to a future full of corruption. And thats exactly what putin on the ritz wants and Mitchy baby is complicit. What are they hiding?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Team Mueller denying the Buzzfeed report. Damn, my year has been ruined.
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  • mrussel1
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    Damn...
  • josevolution
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Mueller denying the Buzzfeed report. Damn, my year has been ruined.
    Yeah that’s really insane and now Muller needs to specify what he’s disputing like now !
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  • josevolution
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    Editor of buzz feed is standing by their story ..
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  • josevolution
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    Why do I feel like I’m watching Comey again he’s the one that fucked up the whole thing ..
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  • CM189191
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Mueller denying the Buzzfeed report. Damn, my year has been ruined.
    Not a denial

    They said it wasn't accurate

    More likely that buzzfeed blew the lid off something they shouldn't have....
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    CM189191 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Team Mueller denying the Buzzfeed report. Damn, my year has been ruined.
    Not a denial

    They said it wasn't accurate

    More likely that buzzfeed blew the lid off something they shouldn't have....
    One can hope. And I’m encouraged that buzzfeed is standing by their reporting and asking Team Mueller to clarify their inaccuracies. We’ll see.
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  • josevolution
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    Baffoon lawyers are already jumping to conclude that Buzzfeed is full of holes , this could blow up. On Buzzfeed bring them down to the level of the national enquirer..
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  • The Juggler
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    edited January 2019
    Hard to believe Mueller and his "13 band of angry democrats" would issue that statement. It's almost as if they have... an enormous amount of integrity.

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  • mrussel1
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    The Juggler said:
    Hard to believe Mueller and his "13 band of angry democrats" would issue that statement. It's almost as if they have... an enormous amount of integrity.

    #2019
    That is the irony, isn't it?  If the whole thing was one giant hoax, why not let the media go on?  Also, does this mean all of the other conclusions were true since they didn't issue a contrary statement?
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    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Hard to believe Mueller and his "13 band of angry democrats" would issue that statement. It's almost as if they have... an enormous amount of integrity.

    #2019
    That is the irony, isn't it?  If the whole thing was one giant hoax, why not let the media go on?  Also, does this mean all of the other conclusions were true since they didn't issue a contrary statement?
    Yup.

    But try explaining irony to Trump or one of his supporters though...
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    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Hard to believe Mueller and his "13 band of angry democrats" would issue that statement. It's almost as if they have... an enormous amount of integrity.

    #2019
    That is the irony, isn't it?  If the whole thing was one giant hoax, why not let the media go on?  Also, does this mean all of the other conclusions were true since they didn't issue a contrary statement?
    If this is a hoax, it just reinforces the 'fake news' cries of Trump's cult.
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    stuckinline said:
    mrussel1 said:
    The Juggler said:
    Hard to believe Mueller and his "13 band of angry democrats" would issue that statement. It's almost as if they have... an enormous amount of integrity.

    #2019
    That is the irony, isn't it?  If the whole thing was one giant hoax, why not let the media go on?  Also, does this mean all of the other conclusions were true since they didn't issue a contrary statement?
    If this is a hoax, it just reinforces the 'fake news' cries of Trump's cult.
    But then how does that explain the carefully worded statement by the folks investigating said hoax? It doesn't....
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