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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,526
    on2legs said:
    Eh... raise your hand if you’re still doing the same things you did 25 years ago.  The Christmas single was a great idea but the band clearly lost enthusiasm for it long ago.  I just don’t think losing enthusiasm for it equates to laziness.  I think they were probably struggling to come up with stuff that they were happy about releasing and it lead to long delays.  Not the same as being lazy to me. I’m bummed to see it go but better to let it go than just let it die a slow death. 
    Do you still decorate a Christmas tree, carve a turkey, do something on Easter, Halloween, Hannakuh etc?

    Traditions are good sometimes and this is one that was good but is going away...
  • mr bungle
    mr bungle Posts: 1,424
    Even less music! What a kick in the crotch!
  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    TheBeardedFellow said:
    If they don't want to do it, whatever, they don't want to do it. But it feels like being left in dark when you get an email says, paraphrasing,  "we're discontinuing the single.If you're due one, you'll get one, and beyond that, we're excited to see what the future holds."

    As a consumer, this just raises a ton of questions, as we've all felt. Namely, why should I remain at the $40 level? Will there be fee restructuring?  I'm an October renewal, so this will be hashed out by then, but for the people who are up in January, there are some serious questions. 

    I think 10Club generally does a pretty decent job... for a band's fan club-- i think? I don't subscribe to any others, though.

    But that single is one of the 2 main reasons people join. And there's no way that they don't know that. When you're cancelling one of those reasons (and the other reason has already basically diminished to down to a lottery's chance), I don't think it's asking too much to have these answers prepared and in the email, or at least let us know these concerns are being considered and discussed. If you don't have those answers ready  then give us something like, "We looking at new options for our loyal fan base," or, " Changes to the membership fee structure will be announced soon." Something like that or whatever is applicable to the situation they're in. It's just good business. And it is a business. 

    "Excited to see what the future holds" sounds like nothing is known and its just a straight cancellation of services. 
    Echoing this.  Would it have been that difficult to have a communication from a member of the band explaining why they have decided to go in this new direction?  Are they that out of touch that they don't realize that people will be surprised and disappointed by this decision?  The band is the one that created the expectations-- "Viva La Vinyl," anyone?-- that are now being left unmet.  The communication is especially tone-deaf in light of the fact that Analog members are owed-- yes, owed-- two singles that no one should have any confidence they will ever receive.  I feel like I and thousands of other Ten Club Analog members have each made Pearl Jam an interest-free loan of eighty dollars.  The band is lucky there hasn't been a class action lawsuit for breach of contract... yet, anyway.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    on2legs said:
    Eh... raise your hand if you’re still doing the same things you did 25 years ago.  The Christmas single was a great idea but the band clearly lost enthusiasm for it long ago.  I just don’t think losing enthusiasm for it equates to laziness.  I think they were probably struggling to come up with stuff that they were happy about releasing and it lead to long delays.  Not the same as being lazy to me. I’m bummed to see it go but better to let it go than just let it die a slow death. 
    A wise man once said "Better to burn out than to fade away."
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    blackhawks said:
    Eh.  They have been kind of half assing those for a while.  I don't mind not getting them to be honest.  But maybe they will give us another perk?  
    kind of half assing?
  • hankholetsgo
    hankholetsgo Posts: 125
    edited December 2019
    MedozK said:
    On a positive note, maybe they will change the whole membership thing to more of a “Third Man” type membership and produce made to order releases. (There is the Jack White connection that Mike has)

    or they may be just liquifying the company and shutting it down.

    Post edited by hankholetsgo on
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    mr bungle said:
    Even less music! What a kick in the crotch!
    That's the message I got. The music is no longer their focus. Hopefully they'll get some sweet analog member exclusive dog collars into the shop soon. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    mr bungle said:
    Even less music! What a kick in the crotch!
    Yeah that's a shame. Especially when the holiday single doesn't even have to be a real Pearl Jam song. Many times it's been a cover (Last Kiss, etc.) or an original song that is nothing like most Pearl Jam songs (Happy When I'm Crying, Olympic Platinum).

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    tempo_n_groove said:
    on2legs said:
    Eh... raise your hand if you’re still doing the same things you did 25 years ago.  The Christmas single was a great idea but the band clearly lost enthusiasm for it long ago.  I just don’t think losing enthusiasm for it equates to laziness.  I think they were probably struggling to come up with stuff that they were happy about releasing and it lead to long delays.  Not the same as being lazy to me. I’m bummed to see it go but better to let it go than just let it die a slow death. 
    Do you still decorate a Christmas tree, carve a turkey, do something on Easter, Halloween, Hannakuh etc?

    Traditions are good sometimes and this is one that was good but is going away...

    I hear what what your saying Chris, but the single hasn’t been a priority for a long time and it was overdue to be put out of its misery.  They have been mailing it in for years and all they got on these boards were complaints about the song selections and the delays. I’m of the opinion that they don’t need to be chained to the past.  I think, for the band, the single used to be a fun thing but at a certain time it became a chore and that lead to the delays.  It seems like most people around here will be happier for it as they won’t be waiting for something they paid for a year ago.  
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  • reisgericht
    reisgericht Posts: 90
    It’s a really sad day - I have been collecting these since 1993 and they were always something to look forward to once a year (yes, even when it was once every two years).  They were something unique and special and meant that even between albums we would get at least some kind of new music (even if it was live).

    I guess they got a call from Trump telling them Santa ain’t real after all...
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438
    edited December 2018
    on2legs said:
    Eh... raise your hand if you’re still doing the same things you did 25 years ago.  The Christmas single was a great idea but the band clearly lost enthusiasm for it long ago.  I just don’t think losing enthusiasm for it equates to laziness.  I think they were probably struggling to come up with stuff that they were happy about releasing and it lead to long delays.  Not the same as being lazy to me. I’m bummed to see it go but better to let it go than just let it die a slow death. 
    Masturbating to pictures of Alyssa Milano?

    I'll raise my hand... in a minute.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,995
    edited December 2018
    Well rather than mourning the loss of the holiday singles, let's celebrate the 54 tracks we got. Here's a download link....

    http://wegotshit.blogspot.com/2015/10/complete-holiday-singles-collection.html

    01. Let Me Sleep (It's Christmas Time)
    02. Ramblings 1
    03. Sonic Reducer
    04. Ramblings 2
    05. Angel
    06. Ramblings 3 (Live)
    07. History Never Repeats (Ed live with Neil and Tim Finn)
    08. Sonic Reducer (Live with Joey Ramone)
    09. Swallow My Pride (Stone and Jeff live with Green River)
    10. My Way (Ed live with an Elvis impersonator)
    11. Olympic Platinum
    12. Smile (Live)
    13. Happy When I'm Crying
    14. Live For Today (by R.E.M.)
    15. Solider Of Love (Live)
    16. Last Kiss
    17. Strangest Tribe
    18. Drifting
    19. Crown Of Thorns (Live with Brendan O' Brien)
    20. Can't Help Falling In Love (Live)
    21. Last Soldier (Live)
    22. Indifference (Ed live with Ben Harper)
    23. Gimme Some Truth (Live)
    24. I Just Want To Have Something To Do
    25. Don't Believe In Christmas (Live)
    26. Sleepless Nights (Ed live with Beck)
    27. Reach Down (Live with Chris Cornell)
    28. I Believe In Miracles (Live)
    29. Someday At Christmas
    30. Better Man (Ed with Walmer High School Choir)
    31. Little Sister (Live with Robert Plant)
    32. Gone (Demo)
    33. Love, Reign O'er Me
    34. Rockin' In The Free World (Live with Bono and The Edge)
    35. Santa God
    36. Jingle Bells
    37. Santa Cruz
    38. The Golden State (Ed with Corin Tucker)
    39. Turning Mist
    40. Hawaii '78 (Live)
    41. Falling Down (Live)
    42. Alternate Jeremy (Live)
    43. Better Things
    44. Devil Doll (Ed with X)
    45. All Night (Live with Glen Hansard, Dave Garza, and Joe Arthur)
    46. In The Moonlight (Live with Josh Homme)
    47. 99 Problems (Live with Jay-Z)
    48. Shattered (Ed live with Jeanne Tripplehorn)
    49. Imagine (Live)
    50. Pendulumorphosis
    51. Wishing Well
    52. Redemption Song (Ed live with Beyoncé)
    53. Alive (Rehearsal with Dave Krusen)
    54. Around And Around
    Post edited by Ledbetterman10 on
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  • ForceofNature101
    ForceofNature101 Posts: 1,295
    The holiday singles themselves, maybe just between the band releasing albums more slowly lately, plus Lost Dogs and everything, that they don't have as much material deemed worthy enough to put on the Holiday singles to keep it running?  In the sense of they have less studio B-sides laying around to release since so many already came out?

    Mix in that they may want to save stuff for Black Friday and RSD releases some years, I can see how it would be nixed
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,940
    Hobbes said:
    on2legs said:
    Eh... raise your hand if you’re still doing the same things you did 25 years ago.  The Christmas single was a great idea but the band clearly lost enthusiasm for it long ago.  I just don’t think losing enthusiasm for it equates to laziness.  I think they were probably struggling to come up with stuff that they were happy about releasing and it lead to long delays.  Not the same as being lazy to me. I’m bummed to see it go but better to let it go than just let it die a slow death. 
    Masturbating to pictures of Alyssa Milano?

    I'll raise my hand... in a minute.
    this is the funniest thing i've read in years. bravo :)
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    The 40 buck membership still allows for the yearly member gift (usually a shirt), as well a bootleg (10 bucks worth). Its still a pretty good deal, if you ask me. Id rather have a vinyl than a shirt, but if they keep the current levels, 40 bucks for shirt, bootleg, deep mag, access to member only items, the contest AND the tickets....thats still worth it to me. I'd pay 50 or 60 for a vinyl version of that. Inflation and all.  


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  • JB56195
    JB56195 Posts: 306
    Well, I guess I won't "Spin. Spin. Spin the black circle."

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    Viva la memory of vinyl
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  • hsohi
    hsohi Posts: 1,033
    mr bungle said:
    Even less music! What a kick in the crotch!
    Now maybe we can get what we really want...More Falla Sheep!!

    Music is so 90's.
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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    End of an era maybe but Im guessing theyve seen quite a shift from analog to digital recently. It seems to be an ongoing problem getting the record out. Im a huge vinyl fan but not that bothered to be honest. The shambles that was the 2016 signalled the end to me. The timing is no coincidence, they had to communicate this message before the end of the year otherwise they would have been held to account for another single once people start renewing in 2019. That would be 3. Interested to hear if anyone has signed up to 2019 yet and what happens there. I'll gladly shift to digital now. Am I not right in thinking that only members can buy Vaults and exclusives like the Sevens boxset so there's my incentive to keep a membership.
  • SR91748
    SR91748 Posts: 159
    Bummerama

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