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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Great book by the man who came up with the acronym ROAT:


    I'm going to see if my library has that book.  I prefer the library, I have not got the room for book storage...it looks interesting.  With all that plastic getting dumped in the Oceans, how much time does the earth have left, before it becomes unbearable to live in most parts?  I live in the great lakes region, so climate change has really not hit us like other areas.  It is present, we know its there...we face more torrential rainstorms than ever before, a week before Christmas and I'm still wearing a light coat and no sign of snow.  People along the lakes are suffering rapid erosion and more flooding, so far it's manageable...but we all are going to pay with increased insurance premiums...
    The Great Lakes region may be one of the last habitable zones for humans, this water won't go away any time soon!
    How much has industrial pollution from cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Duluth, Buffalo, etc. impacted the region environmentally?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Great book by the man who came up with the acronym ROAT:


    I'm going to see if my library has that book.  I prefer the library, I have not got the room for book storage...it looks interesting.  With all that plastic getting dumped in the Oceans, how much time does the earth have left, before it becomes unbearable to live in most parts?  I live in the great lakes region, so climate change has really not hit us like other areas.  It is present, we know its there...we face more torrential rainstorms than ever before, a week before Christmas and I'm still wearing a light coat and no sign of snow.  People along the lakes are suffering rapid erosion and more flooding, so far it's manageable...but we all are going to pay with increased insurance premiums...
    The Great Lakes region may be one of the last habitable zones for humans, this water won't go away any time soon!
    What about these algae blooms that appear every year? How are they going to impact our drinking water?  My town gets. it's water from Erie, those seem to be the big concern for people.  Yes, the water is going nowhere.  We do need to take care of it.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Great book by the man who came up with the acronym ROAT:


    I'm going to see if my library has that book.  I prefer the library, I have not got the room for book storage...it looks interesting.  With all that plastic getting dumped in the Oceans, how much time does the earth have left, before it becomes unbearable to live in most parts?  I live in the great lakes region, so climate change has really not hit us like other areas.  It is present, we know its there...we face more torrential rainstorms than ever before, a week before Christmas and I'm still wearing a light coat and no sign of snow.  People along the lakes are suffering rapid erosion and more flooding, so far it's manageable...but we all are going to pay with increased insurance premiums...
    The Great Lakes region may be one of the last habitable zones for humans, this water won't go away any time soon!
    How much has industrial pollution from cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Duluth, Buffalo, etc. impacted the region environmentally?

    Smog alert could be linked to U.S. coal-fired generatorshttps://lfpress.com/news/local-news/smog-alert-could-be-linked-to-u-s-coal-fired-generators


    I'll look for more info.  In Ontario, we have no coal-fired plants.  We have shuttered them.  ER now have a mix of nuclear, wind, solar and natural gas.  My dad worked for Ontario Hydro at a coal-fired plant, he has asthma, most likely caused by his occupation.  Trust me, you do not want to develop severe asthma when you are 50.  There were many times when I was living at home I had to rush him to the hospital.  When you see a loved one struggling to just do the basics of trying to breathe, pretty scary stuff for a 16-17-year-old.  Every-time I got him to the hospital, the staff was great...they would take in immediately and get him on medicine...


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    [
    brianlux said:
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Great book by the man who came up with the acronym ROAT:


    I'm going to see if my library has that book.  I prefer the library, I have not got the room for book storage...it looks interesting.  With all that plastic getting dumped in the Oceans, how much time does the earth have left, before it becomes unbearable to live in most parts?  I live in the great lakes region, so climate change has really not hit us like other areas.  It is present, we know its there...we face more torrential rainstorms than ever before, a week before Christmas and I'm still wearing a light coat and no sign of snow.  People along the lakes are suffering rapid erosion and more flooding, so far it's manageable...but we all are going to pay with increased insurance premiums...
    The Great Lakes region may be one of the last habitable zones for humans, this water won't go away any time soon!
    How much has industrial pollution from cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Duluth, Buffalo, etc. impacted the region environmentally?

    Smog alert could be linked to U.S. coal-fired generatorshttps://lfpress.com/news/local-news/smog-alert-could-be-linked-to-u-s-coal-fired-generators


    I'll look for more info.  In Ontario, we have no coal-fired plants.  We have shuttered them.  ER now have a mix of nuclear, wind, solar and natural gas.  My dad worked for Ontario Hydro at a coal-fired plant, he has asthma, most likely caused by his occupation.  Trust me, you do not want to develop severe asthma when you are 50.  There were many times when I was living at home I had to rush him to the hospital.  When you see a loved one struggling to just do the basics of trying to breathe, pretty scary stuff for a 16-17-year-old.  Every-time I got him to the hospital, the staff was great...they would take in immediately and get him on medicine...


    I think it has improved since the 60's.  The Cuyahoga River hasn't caught fire recently.  But I have read that Lake Erie has dead zones due to algae blooms.  Someone even wrote a book about it:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    [
    brianlux said:
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Great book by the man who came up with the acronym ROAT:


    I'm going to see if my library has that book.  I prefer the library, I have not got the room for book storage...it looks interesting.  With all that plastic getting dumped in the Oceans, how much time does the earth have left, before it becomes unbearable to live in most parts?  I live in the great lakes region, so climate change has really not hit us like other areas.  It is present, we know its there...we face more torrential rainstorms than ever before, a week before Christmas and I'm still wearing a light coat and no sign of snow.  People along the lakes are suffering rapid erosion and more flooding, so far it's manageable...but we all are going to pay with increased insurance premiums...
    The Great Lakes region may be one of the last habitable zones for humans, this water won't go away any time soon!
    How much has industrial pollution from cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Duluth, Buffalo, etc. impacted the region environmentally?

    Smog alert could be linked to U.S. coal-fired generatorshttps://lfpress.com/news/local-news/smog-alert-could-be-linked-to-u-s-coal-fired-generators


    I'll look for more info.  In Ontario, we have no coal-fired plants.  We have shuttered them.  ER now have a mix of nuclear, wind, solar and natural gas.  My dad worked for Ontario Hydro at a coal-fired plant, he has asthma, most likely caused by his occupation.  Trust me, you do not want to develop severe asthma when you are 50.  There were many times when I was living at home I had to rush him to the hospital.  When you see a loved one struggling to just do the basics of trying to breathe, pretty scary stuff for a 16-17-year-old.  Every-time I got him to the hospital, the staff was great...they would take in immediately and get him on medicine...


    I think it has improved since the 60's.  The Cuyahoga River hasn't caught fire recently.  But I have read that Lake Erie has dead zones due to algae blooms.  Someone even wrote a book about it:

    The Detroit River is supposedly getting much cleaner.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    brianlux said:
    [
    brianlux said:
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    Great book by the man who came up with the acronym ROAT:


    I'm going to see if my library has that book.  I prefer the library, I have not got the room for book storage...it looks interesting.  With all that plastic getting dumped in the Oceans, how much time does the earth have left, before it becomes unbearable to live in most parts?  I live in the great lakes region, so climate change has really not hit us like other areas.  It is present, we know its there...we face more torrential rainstorms than ever before, a week before Christmas and I'm still wearing a light coat and no sign of snow.  People along the lakes are suffering rapid erosion and more flooding, so far it's manageable...but we all are going to pay with increased insurance premiums...
    The Great Lakes region may be one of the last habitable zones for humans, this water won't go away any time soon!
    How much has industrial pollution from cities like Detroit, Cleveland, Duluth, Buffalo, etc. impacted the region environmentally?

    Smog alert could be linked to U.S. coal-fired generatorshttps://lfpress.com/news/local-news/smog-alert-could-be-linked-to-u-s-coal-fired-generators


    I'll look for more info.  In Ontario, we have no coal-fired plants.  We have shuttered them.  ER now have a mix of nuclear, wind, solar and natural gas.  My dad worked for Ontario Hydro at a coal-fired plant, he has asthma, most likely caused by his occupation.  Trust me, you do not want to develop severe asthma when you are 50.  There were many times when I was living at home I had to rush him to the hospital.  When you see a loved one struggling to just do the basics of trying to breathe, pretty scary stuff for a 16-17-year-old.  Every-time I got him to the hospital, the staff was great...they would take in immediately and get him on medicine...


    I think it has improved since the 60's.  The Cuyahoga River hasn't caught fire recently.  But I have read that Lake Erie has dead zones due to algae blooms.  Someone even wrote a book about it:

    The Detroit River is supposedly getting much cleaner.
    Good news!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Well HALLELUJAH!  That's cool!  Was Trump drunk when he signed this bill?  Or just didn't read it all?  Or maybe had burned a few down?
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2018
    brianlux said:
    Well HALLELUJAH!  That's cool!  Was Trump drunk when he signed this bill?  Or just didn't read it all?  Or maybe had burned a few down?
    My question is “Why did it take someone like Trump to finally get this done?”.  I’m sure plenty of other administrations had the opportunity...Useful idiot indeed.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    Well HALLELUJAH!  That's cool!  Was Trump drunk when he signed this bill?  Or just didn't read it all?  Or maybe had burned a few down?
    My question is “Why did it take someone like Trump to finally get this done?”.  I’m sure plenty of other administrations had the opportunity...Useful idiot indeed.
    Good question, PJP!  Why indeed! 

    This plant has so much potential. 

    Meltdown99 , here's your solution for ridding the world of plastic.  Hemp can be used not only as a fiber but also can be made into beer, ceiling tiles, shoes, hempcrete (a type of concrete), soap, and even body parts for cars and tractors.  Yes, TRACTORS! 

    Check it out:



    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJPOWER said:
    brianlux said:
    Well HALLELUJAH!  That's cool!  Was Trump drunk when he signed this bill?  Or just didn't read it all?  Or maybe had burned a few down?
    My question is “Why did it take someone like Trump to finally get this done?”.  I’m sure plenty of other administrations had the opportunity...Useful idiot indeed.
    I'm sure he didn't read it at all, because he doesn't read. But luckily someone he trusts said something positive about this, and it got done. And yes, why it hasn't been done previously is a mystery. I was always critical of Obama for being spineless on hemp and cannabis. So I will do something I almost never do and give kudos to Trump on this. It is really just common sense, and Trump would be my least likely candidate for possessing any, but here we are.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Well HALLELUJAH!  That's cool!  Was Trump drunk when he signed this bill?  Or just didn't read it all?  Or maybe had burned a few down?
    He didn't read the bill is my guess...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    These forums will flip out if he removes Cannabis as a controlled substance...lol
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2018
    These forums will flip out if he removes Cannabis as a controlled substance...lol
    It’s going to have to be soon, it is hard enough to regulate as is.  Now, throw in that its very close relative is legal and going to be produced on an industrial scale...by the truck load...on interstates...good luck search dogs.

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    PJPOWER said:
    These forums will flip out if he removes Cannabis as a controlled substance...lol
    It’s going to have to be soon, it is hard enough to regulate as is.  Now, throw in that its very close relative is legal and going to be produced on an industrial scale...by the truck load...on interstates...good luck search dogs.

    :lol: 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    brianlux said:
    PJPOWER said:
    These forums will flip out if he removes Cannabis as a controlled substance...lol
    It’s going to have to be soon, it is hard enough to regulate as is.  Now, throw in that its very close relative is legal and going to be produced on an industrial scale...by the truck load...on interstates...good luck search dogs.

    :lol: 
    Actually, that’s an interesting point. I read recently that most of the older drug sniffing dogs in Canada have had to be retired because they were trained to sniff cannabis as well as other drugs, and now that cannabis is legal, anyone whose property is indicated by a dog can claim that there was not probably cause for a search because the dog was just sniffing out weed. A whole new generation of dogs is being trained right now that have not been trained to indicate cannabis. 

    Drug dog unemployment - just one of those unintended consequences of legalization. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Windsor just retire a member of their canine unit and bought 2 more...makes sense now.  The news said those dogs can cost up to 100 grand.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni