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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/texas-trump-voter-now-fears-president-will-seize-familys-land-build-border-wall/?__twitter_impression=true

    Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall


    A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.

    Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.

    However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    “This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.


    In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.

    “They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.

    Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.



    What a doosh.

    Get behind your convictions, idiot.

    "Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the... oh shit. Wait. What are you saying? I'll be affected? F**k the wall! F**k the wall! F**k the..."
    same idiots who wanted obamacare repealed and are now crying about the possibility of it being repealed. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    Unfortunately, the same thing applies with roads, power lines, etc.  You own the land until the government decides they need it.  Yay government overreach....
  • PJPOWER said:
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    Unfortunately, the same thing applies with roads, power lines, etc.  You own the land until the government decides they need it.  Yay government overreach....

    Except in this case... she's getting exactly what she asked for: not government overreach.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    Unfortunately, the same thing applies with roads, power lines, etc.  You own the land until the government decides they need it.  Yay government overreach....

    Except in this case... she's getting exactly what she asked for: not government overreach.
    She definitely didn’t think things through, lol
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    edited December 2018
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that.
    The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder.
    According to this article they are rumors they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side.
    I would complain too.

    And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    mace1229 said:
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that.
    The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder.
    According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side.
    I would complain too.

    And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
    the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    mace1229 said:
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that.
    The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder.
    According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side.
    I would complain too.

    And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
    the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way. 
    Yes, I just edited to fix that.
    But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. 
    I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    "BORDER"


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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that.
    The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder.
    According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side.
    I would complain too.

    And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
    the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way. 
    Yes, I just edited to fix that.
    But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. 
    I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.

    She isn't just complaining that it isn't along the border (which is only a rumour, anyway); she's complaining that it may involve her land, which is along the border.

    Logically, the wall was always going to involve expropriation of private land, if it was going to occur. From what I've read, the majority of land along the border region is private, not public. Anyone with common sense could tell that you could not piece together a wall with only public land. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited December 2018
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that.
    The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder.
    According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side.
    I would complain too.

    And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
    the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way. 
    Yes, I just edited to fix that.
    But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. 
    I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
    Agreed, they obviously had their reasons for wanting a wall, which is an important side note since they are on the front lines.  It is easy to understand why someone living on the border would want better security, but still be unhappy with where the government is trying to put the thing.  It is similar to those that pushed for better utility services, not realizing they would try to run transmission lines right across their property.
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    People just don't seem to think these things through.

    "Build the wall!"

    "Where?"

    "Along the border, of course!"

    "You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"

    "Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"

    "All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"

    "Ummmm....."
    It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that.
    The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder.
    According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side.
    I would complain too.

    And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
    the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way. 
    Yes, I just edited to fix that.
    But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. 
    I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
    rezoning is a part of life. if she was that close to the border, she should have thought of that. 
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    "BORDER"


    Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard.
                                                                                                ^ that was a joke.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,509
    "BORDER"


    LMAO
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    "BORDER"


    Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard.
                                                                                                ^ that was a joke.
    Don’t worry, it had been scientifically proven that people that always point out grammatical or spelling errors are pretty much assholes, lol
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    "BORDER"


    Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard.
                                                                                                ^ that was a joke.
    Don’t worry, it had been scientifically proven that people that always point out grammatical or spelling errors are pretty much assholes, lol
    Yeah. I don't chalk it up to being an asshole. I chalk it up to not having anything meaningful to say. Considering I spelled it correctly in the first response, then for some reason was rushing through my second I accidentally added an extra letter when rushed apparently that is the only thing worth commenting on for some.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,838
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    "BORDER"


    Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard.
                                                                                                ^ that was a joke.
    Don’t worry, it had been scientifically proven that people that always point out grammatical or spelling errors are pretty much assholes, lol
    It “has” been.... wait....
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mace1229 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    "BORDER"


    Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard.
                                                                                                ^ that was a joke.
    Don’t worry, it had been scientifically proven that people that always point out grammatical or spelling errors are pretty much assholes, lol
    Yeah. I don't chalk it up to being an asshole. I chalk it up to not having anything meaningful to say. Considering I spelled it correctly in the first response, then for some reason was rushing through my second I accidentally added an extra letter when rushed apparently that is the only thing worth commenting on for some.
    Right on, I was just pointing out what studies have suggested. ;)
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,439
    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/12/texas-trump-voter-now-fears-president-will-seize-familys-land-build-border-wall/?__twitter_impression=true

    Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall


    A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.

    Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.

    However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

    “This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.


    In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.

    “They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.

    Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.



    What a doosh.

    Get behind your convictions, idiot.

    "Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the... oh shit. Wait. What are you saying? I'll be affected? F**k the wall! F**k the wall! F**k the..."
    same idiots who wanted obamacare repealed and are now crying about the possibility of it being repealed. 
    Same idiots who want less government and less government intrusion in their lives but want better roads, better bridges,  better schools, etc etc
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    PJPOWER said:
    mace1229 said:
    "BORDER"


    Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard.
                                                                                                ^ that was a joke.
    Don’t worry, it had been scientifically proven that people that always point out grammatical or spelling errors are pretty much assholes, lol
    I chalk it up to the leader of the free world's daily misspelling of this simple word rubbing off on his base. 
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