Uneasy GOP officeholders have legitimate reason for concern: In a National Public Radio/Marist survey last week, just 36% of Americans said Trump should shut down the government if Congress doesn't fund his wall. A 57% majority said he should compromise to avoid a shutdown.
But about two-thirds of self-identified Republicans in the survey said they would support a shutdown for the wall, and it is that core of immigration hardliners in the party that Trump has targeted with his agenda and rhetoric on the issue.
During the 2016 Republican presidential primaries, Trump's tough approach on immigration, symbolized by his calls for a wall across the southern border that he would compel Mexico to fund, was his distinguishing feature in the crowded field. Trump won largely by consolidating the portions of the GOP electorate most antagonistic to undocumented immigrants and immigration more broadly.
Exit polls in 20 states during the GOP primary asked if voters thought that undocumented immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status or if they should be deported; in only two of the 20 states did a majority of voters even in the GOP primaries support deportation. Yet that hardline minority backed Trump in such overwhelming numbers that they provided a majority of his votes in 18 of the 20 states, the exit polls found.
But Trump's call for the wall has never won broad public support. For years, polls have consistently found that while Americans support a pathway to legal status or citizenship for undocumented immigrants without criminal records, they also place a high priority on ensuring border security. Yet even within that broad consensus, Trump's specific solution -- the border wall -- has always faced lopsided opposition.
In 10 Quinnipiac University national polls from April 2017 through August 2018, no more than 40% of Americans ever expressed support for the wall. Consistently, the share of Americans opposing construction of the wall has been much higher, from 57% to 64%. A CNN Poll conducted by SSRS that was released last week found 57% against a wall, compared with 38% in favor.
Opposition to the wall is overwhelming among all the groups that moved decisively away from Trump and the GOP in last month's election. In CNN's poll, Trump's border wall faced opposition from 76% of African-Americans, 66% of Latinos, 66% of adults younger than 35, 57% of independents, 66% of college-educated white voters and 56% of people aged 35 to 49.
Uneasy GOP officeholders have legitimate reason for concern: In a National Public Radio/Marist survey last week, just 36% of Americans said Trump should shut down the government if Congress doesn't fund his wall. A 57% majority said he should compromise to avoid a shutdown.
But about two-thirds of self-identified Republicans in the survey said they would support a shutdown for the wall, and it is that core of immigration hardliners in the party that Trump has targeted with his agenda and rhetoric on the issue.
During the 2016 Republican presidential primaries, Trump's tough approach on immigration, symbolized by his calls for a wall across the southern border that he would compel Mexico to fund, was his distinguishing feature in the crowded field. Trump won largely by consolidating the portions of the GOP electorate most antagonistic to undocumented immigrants and immigration more broadly.
Exit polls in 20 states during the GOP primary asked if voters thought that undocumented immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status or if they should be deported; in only two of the 20 states did a majority of voters even in the GOP primaries support deportation. Yet that hardline minority backed Trump in such overwhelming numbers that they provided a majority of his votes in 18 of the 20 states, the exit polls found.
But Trump's call for the wall has never won broad public support. For years, polls have consistently found that while Americans support a pathway to legal status or citizenship for undocumented immigrants without criminal records, they also place a high priority on ensuring border security. Yet even within that broad consensus, Trump's specific solution -- the border wall -- has always faced lopsided opposition.
In 10 Quinnipiac University national polls from April 2017 through August 2018, no more than 40% of Americans ever expressed support for the wall. Consistently, the share of Americans opposing construction of the wall has been much higher, from 57% to 64%. A CNN Poll conducted by SSRS that was released last week found 57% against a wall, compared with 38% in favor.
Opposition to the wall is overwhelming among all the groups that moved decisively away from Trump and the GOP in last month's election. In CNN's poll, Trump's border wall faced opposition from 76% of African-Americans, 66% of Latinos, 66% of adults younger than 35, 57% of independents, 66% of college-educated white voters and 56% of people aged 35 to 49.
35%-40%, which is Team trump Treason’s base. Untenable.
Uneasy GOP officeholders have legitimate reason for concern: In a National Public Radio/Marist survey last week, just 36% of Americans said Trump should shut down the government if Congress doesn't fund his wall. A 57% majority said he should compromise to avoid a shutdown.
But about two-thirds of self-identified Republicans in the survey said they would support a shutdown for the wall, and it is that core of immigration hardliners in the party that Trump has targeted with his agenda and rhetoric on the issue.
During the 2016 Republican presidential primaries, Trump's tough approach on immigration, symbolized by his calls for a wall across the southern border that he would compel Mexico to fund, was his distinguishing feature in the crowded field. Trump won largely by consolidating the portions of the GOP electorate most antagonistic to undocumented immigrants and immigration more broadly.
Exit polls in 20 states during the GOP primary asked if voters thought that undocumented immigrants should be allowed to obtain legal status or if they should be deported; in only two of the 20 states did a majority of voters even in the GOP primaries support deportation. Yet that hardline minority backed Trump in such overwhelming numbers that they provided a majority of his votes in 18 of the 20 states, the exit polls found.
But Trump's call for the wall has never won broad public support. For years, polls have consistently found that while Americans support a pathway to legal status or citizenship for undocumented immigrants without criminal records, they also place a high priority on ensuring border security. Yet even within that broad consensus, Trump's specific solution -- the border wall -- has always faced lopsided opposition.
In 10 Quinnipiac University national polls from April 2017 through August 2018, no more than 40% of Americans ever expressed support for the wall. Consistently, the share of Americans opposing construction of the wall has been much higher, from 57% to 64%. A CNN Poll conducted by SSRS that was released last week found 57% against a wall, compared with 38% in favor.
Opposition to the wall is overwhelming among all the groups that moved decisively away from Trump and the GOP in last month's election. In CNN's poll, Trump's border wall faced opposition from 76% of African-Americans, 66% of Latinos, 66% of adults younger than 35, 57% of independents, 66% of college-educated white voters and 56% of people aged 35 to 49.
Good let him take the whole party down I’m sure he wants to take over the whole country and declare himself supreme Cheeto leader ..
jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall
A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.
Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.
However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
“This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.
In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.
“They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.
Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.
Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall
A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.
Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.
However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
“This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.
In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.
“They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.
Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.
Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall
A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.
Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.
However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
“This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.
In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.
“They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.
Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.
Fuck her I hope they trample her land she deserves everything she voted for .,
Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall
A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.
Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.
However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
“This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.
In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.
“They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.
Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.
What a doosh.
Get behind your convictions, idiot.
"Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the... oh shit. Wait. What are you saying? I'll be affected? F**k the wall! F**k the wall! F**k the..."
Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall
A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.
Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.
However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
“This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.
In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.
“They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.
Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.
What a doosh.
Get behind your convictions, idiot.
"Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the... oh shit. Wait. What are you saying? I'll be affected? F**k the wall! F**k the wall! F**k the..."
same idiots who wanted obamacare repealed and are now crying about the possibility of it being repealed.
People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
Unfortunately, the same thing applies with roads, power lines, etc. You own the land until the government decides they need it. Yay government overreach....
People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
Unfortunately, the same thing applies with roads, power lines, etc. You own the land until the government decides they need it. Yay government overreach....
Except in this case... she's getting exactly what she asked for: not government overreach.
People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
Unfortunately, the same thing applies with roads, power lines, etc. You own the land until the government decides they need it. Yay government overreach....
Except in this case... she's getting exactly what she asked for: not government overreach.
People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that. The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder. According to this article they are rumors they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side. I would complain too.
And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that. The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder. According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side. I would complain too.
And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way.
People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that. The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder. According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side. I would complain too.
And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way.
Yes, I just edited to fix that. But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
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People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that. The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder. According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side. I would complain too.
And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way.
Yes, I just edited to fix that. But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
She isn't just complaining that it isn't along the border (which is only a rumour, anyway); she's complaining that it may involve her land, which is along the border.
Logically, the wall was always going to involve expropriation of private land, if it was going to occur. From what I've read, the majority of land along the border region is private, not public. Anyone with common sense could tell that you could not piece together a wall with only public land.
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People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that. The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder. According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side. I would complain too.
And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way.
Yes, I just edited to fix that. But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
Agreed, they obviously had their reasons for wanting a wall, which is an important side note since they are on the front lines. It is easy to understand why someone living on the border would want better security, but still be unhappy with where the government is trying to put the thing. It is similar to those that pushed for better utility services, not realizing they would try to run transmission lines right across their property.
People just don't seem to think these things through.
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
It isn't always that simple, and in this case is far from that. The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder. According to this article they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side. I would complain too.
And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
the article does not state they are considering building the wall on the north side of town. the woman says she has "heard rumors" about that. I don't know how that would be legal in any way.
Yes, I just edited to fix that. But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something. I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
rezoning is a part of life. if she was that close to the border, she should have thought of that.
Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard. ^ that was a joke.
Don’t worry, it had been scientifically proven that people that always point out grammatical or spelling errors are pretty much assholes, lol
Yeah. I don't chalk it up to being an asshole. I chalk it up to not having anything meaningful to say. Considering I spelled it correctly in the first response, then for some reason was rushing through my second I accidentally added an extra letter when rushed apparently that is the only thing worth commenting on for some.
Thanks. I guess my point is useless since I misspelled 1 woard. ^ that was a joke.
Don’t worry, it had been scientifically proven that people that always point out grammatical or spelling errors are pretty much assholes, lol
Yeah. I don't chalk it up to being an asshole. I chalk it up to not having anything meaningful to say. Considering I spelled it correctly in the first response, then for some reason was rushing through my second I accidentally added an extra letter when rushed apparently that is the only thing worth commenting on for some.
Right on, I was just pointing out what studies have suggested.
Texas Trump voter now fears the president will seize her family’s land to build his border wall
A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.
Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.
However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
“This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.
In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.
“They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.
Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.
What a doosh.
Get behind your convictions, idiot.
"Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the... oh shit. Wait. What are you saying? I'll be affected? F**k the wall! F**k the wall! F**k the..."
same idiots who wanted obamacare repealed and are now crying about the possibility of it being repealed.
Same idiots who want less government and less government intrusion in their lives but want better roads, better bridges, better schools, etc etc
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And if that's not a good comparison to some, then perhaps this was not an actual "INVASION?" Hmm? Words matter, folks.
Trump is doubling down on his strategy that cost the GOP the House
https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/18/politics/trump-ignore-majority-shutdown-wall/index.htmlPublic opposition to a shutdown over the wall
Libtardaplorable©. And proud of it.
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A Texas woman who voted for President Donald Trump in 2016 tells the Los Angeles Times that she’s now afraid her family’s land will be seized in order to build the president’s proposed border wall.
Rios tells the LA Times that she voted for Trump in 2016 because she wanted to stop undocumented immigrants from coming into the United States.
However, she was disturbed earlier this year when her family received a letter from the federal government asking them to let surveyors access their lands so they could determine whether any of it needed to be used for the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.
“This is our land,” said the 60-year-old Rios, whose family founded the tiny De La Cruz colonia in the Rio Grande Valley decades ago.
In addition to being worried about Trump taking some of her family’s land, she also says she’s disturbed by rumors that the government will build the wall to the north of their neighborhood.
“They can’t leave us on the Mexican side,” Rios pleaded to the LA Times.
Rios also tells the publication that her daughter has recently spent money renovating her home and is worried that all her work will be ruined if her house gets cut off from the rest of the country by a giant wall.
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What a doosh.
Get behind your convictions, idiot.
"Build the wall! Build the wall! Build the... oh shit. Wait. What are you saying? I'll be affected? F**k the wall! F**k the wall! F**k the..."
www.headstonesband.com
"Build the wall!"
"Where?"
"Along the border, of course!"
"You live along the border. Should we build it on your land?"
"Of course not! Build it on some other land that no one owns!"
"All of the land is owned by someone. Should the government expropriate your friends' or neighbours' land, then?"
"Ummmm....."
Except in this case... she's getting exactly what she asked for: not government overreach.
The wall isn't going to be along the border the whole way, and in many cases is miles from the boarder.
According to this article they are rumors they are considering building the wall on the north side of town, leaving the whole town on the Mexican side.
I would complain too.
And there is plenty of land that is not owned by individuals, there is a whole lot that is BLM land
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But still, I've heard several similar stories. The point is, the wall is not going to be on the boarder. Its not like these people lose just 10 feet of land to wall, I've heard several stories that would put a wall right down the middle of a ranch or something.
I just don;t think it s unreasonable to complain that a boarder wall may no b e along a border, even if you wanted a boarder wall to begin with.
She isn't just complaining that it isn't along the border (which is only a rumour, anyway); she's complaining that it may involve her land, which is along the border.
Logically, the wall was always going to involve expropriation of private land, if it was going to occur. From what I've read, the majority of land along the border region is private, not public. Anyone with common sense could tell that you could not piece together a wall with only public land.
www.headstonesband.com
^ that was a joke.
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