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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    How about a 20-year city development plan that slows Urban sprawl by increasing housing density and Mass transit? 

    Minneapolis Confronts Its History of Housing Segregation
    By doing away with single-family zoning, the city takes on high rent, long commutes, and racism in real estate in one fell swoop

    https://amp.slate.com/business/2018/12/minneapolis-single-family-zoning-housing-racism.html
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    CM189191 said:
    How about a 20-year city development plan that slows Urban sprawl by increasing housing density and Mass transit? 

    Minneapolis Confronts Its History of Housing Segregation
    By doing away with single-family zoning, the city takes on high rent, long commutes, and racism in real estate in one fell swoop

    https://amp.slate.com/business/2018/12/minneapolis-single-family-zoning-housing-racism.html
    I know that because of some of the more current things I have quoted the man saying that James Howard Kunstler is not a well like name in these parts, but besides his more current interest in Deep State issues, he has also been a pioneer in contemporary rethinking of urban and housing issues.  Clips from interviews with him are interspersed in this thought provoking documentary, "The End of Suburbia",
    and he writes extensively about the need to restructure housing and cities in these three excellent books:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739

    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Meltdown99 said:

    :lol:  you go, Willie!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Trumpites still trying to foist the myth of "clean coal".  Shame!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Cleaning up the plastic in the ocean

    https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/48392572_2090533397635959_5078183667944128512_n.png?_nc_cat=104&_nc_eui2=AeF98-phgGvxxFSVC-bcpTJbFC7rDTprFVOOf4UYwJSsDTUgXMO6jp6ix3ZseW-PKVFE1Y6yxne2rF_DA55x5UOADOI11gxXmzj-yCFswjOa7g&_nc_ht=scontent-yyz1-1.xx&oh=c8b12ebc67ccce7c6ec664a5a92b0935&oe=5C9D8D55
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Trumpites still trying to foist the myth of "clean coal".  Shame!

    Each state can choose to shutter their coal plants?  Correct?  Then why doesn't the environmental movement focus at the state level?  Whining about trump for the next 2-4 years will change nothing.  Americans are like Canadians, we love to whine...but too lazy to enact change.  But if you ask me, the real concern is the amount of plastic that ends up in the Ocean.  So plastic needs to be completely banned or the problem will never go away...and every country in the world has ban plastic in order to make a difference...not some token banning of plastic straws.  Since the world can never agree on much, I doubt a total plastic ban will happen.  After watching 60 minutes on plastic, we are fucked.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Climate change: The massive CO2 emitter you may not know about

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46455844?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=facebook&ns_campaign=bbcnews

    The only way the earth can be fixed is for the human race to go extinct.  This is also why I'm opposed to Asylum Seekers and Immigration at the current levels.  The more people you let the more shit you need to build, the resources being used...
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Trumpites still trying to foist the myth of "clean coal".  Shame!

    Each state can choose to shutter their coal plants?  Correct?  Then why doesn't the environmental movement focus at the state level?  Whining about trump for the next 2-4 years will change nothing.  Americans are like Canadians, we love to whine...but too lazy to enact change.  But if you ask me, the real concern is the amount of plastic that ends up in the Ocean.  So plastic needs to be completely banned or the problem will never go away...and every country in the world has ban plastic in order to make a difference...not some token banning of plastic straws.  Since the world can never agree on much, I doubt a total plastic ban will happen.  After watching 60 minutes on plastic, we are fucked.  
    Yes, true, but at the same time I think the hard work of the many who do work to enact change is worth acknowledging.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Trumpites still trying to foist the myth of "clean coal".  Shame!

    Each state can choose to shutter their coal plants?  Correct?  Then why doesn't the environmental movement focus at the state level?  Whining about trump for the next 2-4 years will change nothing.  Americans are like Canadians, we love to whine...but too lazy to enact change.  But if you ask me, the real concern is the amount of plastic that ends up in the Ocean.  So plastic needs to be completely banned or the problem will never go away...and every country in the world has ban plastic in order to make a difference...not some token banning of plastic straws.  Since the world can never agree on much, I doubt a total plastic ban will happen.  After watching 60 minutes on plastic, we are fucked.  
    Yes, true, but at the same time I think the hard work of the many who do work to enact change is worth acknowledging.
    I absolutely will acknowledge the hard work that people do, especially you.  Did you see the 60 minutes segment on plastic...plastic has to be completely banned?  There is no way the Oceans will clean up properly until we humans go extinct, just no way.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Trumpites still trying to foist the myth of "clean coal".  Shame!

    Each state can choose to shutter their coal plants?  Correct?  Then why doesn't the environmental movement focus at the state level?  Whining about trump for the next 2-4 years will change nothing.  Americans are like Canadians, we love to whine...but too lazy to enact change.  But if you ask me, the real concern is the amount of plastic that ends up in the Ocean.  So plastic needs to be completely banned or the problem will never go away...and every country in the world has ban plastic in order to make a difference...not some token banning of plastic straws.  Since the world can never agree on much, I doubt a total plastic ban will happen.  After watching 60 minutes on plastic, we are fucked.  
    Yes, true, but at the same time I think the hard work of the many who do work to enact change is worth acknowledging.
    I absolutely will acknowledge the hard work that people do, especially you.  Did you see the 60 minutes segment on plastic...plastic has to be completely banned?  There is no way the Oceans will clean up properly until we humans go extinct, just no way.
    I do my little part, that's all, but thanks.  :smile:

    No, haven't seen the 60 Min. show on plastic, I'll check it out.

    You may be right about humans needing to go extinct for the oceans to clean up.  On the other hand, as a species we might express our collective inner better selves and change before that happens.  Not likely, but there's always a slim chance.  That's what we work for.

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Trumpites still trying to foist the myth of "clean coal".  Shame!

    Each state can choose to shutter their coal plants?  Correct?  Then why doesn't the environmental movement focus at the state level?  Whining about trump for the next 2-4 years will change nothing.  Americans are like Canadians, we love to whine...but too lazy to enact change.  But if you ask me, the real concern is the amount of plastic that ends up in the Ocean.  So plastic needs to be completely banned or the problem will never go away...and every country in the world has ban plastic in order to make a difference...not some token banning of plastic straws.  Since the world can never agree on much, I doubt a total plastic ban will happen.  After watching 60 minutes on plastic, we are fucked.  
    Yes, true, but at the same time I think the hard work of the many who do work to enact change is worth acknowledging.
    I absolutely will acknowledge the hard work that people do, especially you.  Did you see the 60 minutes segment on plastic...plastic has to be completely banned?  There is no way the Oceans will clean up properly until we humans go extinct, just no way.
    I do my little part, that's all, but thanks.  :smile:

    No, haven't seen the 60 Min. show on plastic, I'll check it out.

    You may be right about humans needing to go extinct for the oceans to clean up.  On the other hand, as a species we might express our collective inner better selves and change before that happens.  Not likely, but there's always a slim chance.  That's what we work for.

    There is no doubt in my mind that we must quit using plastic, all plastic.  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju_2NuK5O-E
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U7jVMlrKHk
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,665
    edited December 2018
    Yeah, it's pretty insane.  The statistics vary, but something like 300 million tons of plastic are produced each year.  About half of that is singe use  (single use?  WTF?).  And National Geographic says that 91% of plastic is not recycled. 

    Triple WTF!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rhanishane
    rhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    edited December 2018
    I got into an argument today on social media about bin collections for household waste in one community going from weekly pick ups to fortnightly pick ups. Holy shit did i get stepped on for suggesting reducing household waste. It was as if i had consulted with the devil haha.
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  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,993
    Underground bins are currently introduced in my hometown. Let's see how that's going to turn out.
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,993
    Meltdown99 said:

    :lol:
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Yeah, it's pretty insane.  The statistics vary, but something like 300 million tons of plastic are produced each year.  About half of that is singe use  (single use?  WTF?).  And National Geographic says that 91% of plastic is not recycled. 

    Triple WTF!
    I saw one video that claims humans dump the equivalent of 1 dump truck full of plastic into the oceans every minute...just disgusting.
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  • rhanishane
    rhanishane NSW Australia Posts: 505
    Pap said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    :lol:
    😂

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