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I don't think he has even said he is now a Clinton supporter. He has said his wife and daughter's are supporters but that doesn't mean he is/was.oftenreading said:So you blame Comey because he secretly wanted Clinton to win? That applies to most sane people, so I'm not sure that it's the criticism that you hope it to be. The only material issue is that he took no actions directly to make it more likely that she won, and in fact took actions that made it less likely.
Also, he is now "openly" a Clinton supporter, but was not during that time period, so hard to call that "open" in that context.www.myspace.com0 -
I’m for deporting all you having this trump/Comey discussion...you know, just for thread integrity purposes of course
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Thanks for the thorough response. I actually can't stand Hannity and rarely watch him. I never read Comey's book, I just remember seeing several interviews he did about his book and articles about it as well. My memory may have been wrong on some of the accounts,I thought I remember Comey saying he wouldn't do it again but can't find record of it. Instead in a LA Times article about the book he says he would do it again, so I was probably wrong on that. But many articles and interviews about the book he does say he thought Hilary would win and that may have impacted his decision, that and the integrity/image of the FBI was what made him reopen it.The Juggler said:Sir,
Jim Comey IS A REPUBLICAN. He has never said he is a Hillary supporter. And he never said he reopened the investing because he thought "there was no possible way" Trump would win. That's a Trump administration talking point. It is not advisable to use Trump administration talking points as facts...because they are usually lies. Here is good reading on the subject:
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/04/13/james-comey-clinton-investigation-poll-numbers-522958Fact-check: Comey didn’t say he reopened Clinton investigation because of poll numbers
In his book he says he was concerned about making her an illegitimate president by not revealing this to the public. But in hindsight, he did that to Trump by not revealing that investigation. He made big mistakes during that election. He should've just revealed both investigations. But, ultimately, the actions he and the FBI did and did not take publicly directly benefited Trump and likely got him into the White House.
If the FBI had wanted Hillary to win, they would have let the public know that Russia was interfering in the election with the intent on helping Trump win. That would've been leaked out one way or the other. They didn't do that. The whole argument is nonsense.
I'm surprised you didn't know about the Giuliani story. It was a big deal in the weeks leading up to the election....and it flies directly into the face of Trump's narrative that the FBI wanted Hillary to win.
He is also not a republican. He was, but is no longer affiliated with them. He also said in an interview that democrats have to win in 2020 https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/09/politics/james-comey-donald-trump-2020/index.html
His entire family participated in the rally against Trump in January 2017 while he was still head of FBI. So I think it is safe to say he is not a Trump supporter.
Anyway I agree he likely cost Hilary the election, but I don't believe it was intentional and safe to assume he supported Hilary.
Talk about rabbit holes, this all started because someone (don't even remember who) called me a Trump lover because I said the news coverage on the caravan seemed like a normal cycle to me without even mentioning Trump. I don't like Trump, I think he is embarrassing as a president. I don't even remember how Comey came into the conversation so probably time to move on from him.0 -
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He was a republican for probably over 30 years up until LAST year. He was a republican during the time in question. Bravo to him for putting his country over his corrupt political party.
I said his wife and daughters supported Hillary. That does not mean he is/was a supporter. There is no evidence of Comey being a Hillary supporter.
The article you're talking about regarding what he wants to happen in 2020 was from last week. Come on, dude. We are talking about events from two and a half years ago. Of course NOW he wants democrats to win in 2020. Republicans have done nothing but demonize him since Trump fired him. And he is, by all accounts, a sane person who sees the kind of president Trump has been.
The point is you cannot find any evidence that he was a Hillary supporter and wanted her to win in 2016. All of his public actions helped Donald Trump.
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That is a sad story and I hope it never happens. But my guess is it probably isn't that rare. And one of the big reasons I am against promoting mass immigration like this. The article doesn't give many details, other than she was in custody for about 8 hours until she died and they they had a record number in custody for a small facility. She may not have even been showing sings of serious illness until it was too late. When you have hundreds in custody in places that are meant to house just a few dozen this will continue to happen and conditions will be horrible. The article says that facility received a record number of 227 that day and was "Extremely large" for their standards. Even if water was available, 8 hours is not that long to go without a medical exam when you are not equipped for that number of people, and was probably already beyond the point of needing just water at that point.Halifax2TheMax said:
I am for granting asylum to those who need it, but this caravan is not the right way to do it. Conditions in Mexico are horrible where they are being housed and I bet disease is rampant there. And y biggest concern is if this caravan is encouraged the numbers will probably grow next time and cases like this will be more common.0 -
^mace1229 said:That is a sad story and I hope it never happens. But my guess is it probably isn't that rare. And one of the big reasons I am against promoting mass immigration like this. The article doesn't give many details, other than she was in custody for about 8 hours until she died and they they had a record number in custody for a small facility. She may not have even been showing sings of serious illness until it was too late. When you have hundreds in custody in places that are meant to house just a few dozen this will continue to happen and conditions will be horrible. The article says that facility received a record number of 227 that day and was "Extremely large" for their standards. Even if water was available, 8 hours is not that long to go without a medical exam when you are not equipped for that number of people, and was probably already beyond the point of needing just water at that point.
I am for granting asylum to those who need it, but this caravan is not the right way to do it. Conditions in Mexico are horrible where they are being housed and I bet disease is rampant there. And y biggest concern is if this caravan is encouraged the numbers will probably grow next time and cases like this will be more common.
Why would you guess that this is not a rare occurrence?www.myspace.com0 -
No, I cannot find anything where he publicly promotes Hilary. But he removed himself as republican by 2016 election I think before the election. And watching several interviews during his book tour, it was clear to me of his distaste for Trump. He's made it known he doesn't like Trump for a while. That was just he latest of interviews and comments I posted. I dont think Comey is worth talking about, I think we'll ljust have to disagree on who we think he wanted to be president in 2016. I can agree he likely cost Hilary the election, I never disputed that.The Juggler said:^
He was a republican for probably over 30 years up until LAST year. He was a republican during the time in question. Bravo to him for putting his country over his corrupt political party.
I said his wife and daughters supported Hillary. That does not mean he is/was a supporter. There is no evidence of Comey being a Hillary supporter.
The article you're talking about regarding what he wants to happen in 2020 was from last week. Come on, dude. We are talking about events from two and a half years ago. Of course NOW he wants democrats to win in 2020. Republicans have done nothing but demonize him since Trump fired him. And he is, by all accounts, a sane person who sees the kind of president Trump has been.
The point is you cannot find any evidence that he was a Hillary supporter and wanted her to win in 2016. All of his public actions helped Donald Trump.0 -
For how many weeks/months were told of the invasion? And we’re supposed to be the “greatest” nation on earth? I’m embarrassed by the ineptitude you helped elect.mace1229 said:That is a sad story and I hope it never happens. But my guess is it probably isn't that rare. And one of the big reasons I am against promoting mass immigration like this. The article doesn't give many details, other than she was in custody for about 8 hours until she died and they they had a record number in custody for a small facility. She may not have even been showing sings of serious illness until it was too late. When you have hundreds in custody in places that are meant to house just a few dozen this will continue to happen and conditions will be horrible. The article says that facility received a record number of 227 that day and was "Extremely large" for their standards. Even if water was available, 8 hours is not that long to go without a medical exam when you are not equipped for that number of people, and was probably already beyond the point of needing just water at that point.
I am for granting asylum to those who need it, but this caravan is not the right way to do it. Conditions in Mexico are horrible where they are being housed and I bet disease is rampant there. And y biggest concern is if this caravan is encouraged the numbers will probably grow next time and cases like this will be more common.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Well I stand corrected that he became independent in 2016 but everything else is just hearsay. He obviously NOW has a distaste in his mouth for the man who fired him and has been mocking him publicly for 2 years and, subsequently, is making a mockery of our democracy on a daily basis. What rational human being would not? This does not mean Comey is/was a Hillary supporter and tried to help her win..mace1229 said:No, I cannot find anything where he publicly promotes Hilary. But he removed himself as republican by 2016 election I think before the election. And watching several interviews during his book tour, it was clear to me of his distaste for Trump. He's made it known he doesn't like Trump for a while. That was just he latest of interviews and comments I posted. I dont think Comey is worth talking about, I think we'll ljust have to disagree on who we think he wanted to be president in 2016. I can agree he likely cost Hilary the election, I never disputed that.www.myspace.com0 -
Her death had absolutely zero to do with providing for the caravan. If the US brought In-In-Out, gatorade and put them in a luxury hotel to everyojn in the caravan she'd still be dead. This was a remote desert in NM several hundred miles away from the caravan, not equipped for large people when they had nearly 400 caught in 2 days, a record high. I couldn't find how many it was built to hold, but they called this an "extremely high" number and say this facility was built to house individuals, not multiple families.Halifax2TheMax said:For how many weeks/months were told of the invasion? And we’re supposed to be the “greatest” nation on earth? I’m embarrassed by the ineptitude you helped elect.
So how would preparing for the caravan have prevented this? It would do nothing for that. And promoting the idea that if you just show up you get in will only encourage wreckless attempts like this and will have the same result. We can't be expected to build stations to house thousands across the entire boarder, and provide food water and medical attention to thousands that show up in even remote areas. That is just unrealistic. This is the danger of promoting large groups like this, and there is no way to prepare for it and sustain it for the long term.
If she was one of 20 who were detained she may be alive. But being 1 of 400 who were detained it isn't surprising. Now if she had obvious signs of a serious medical conditions that were made known and went untreated, that would be a different story. None of that is known at the time, so I am going on the assumption that the first physical signs were the seizures, and by then it was too late.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
How about the US provide a minimum of a health assessment, knowing that the people coming to the border have most likely endured a physically demanding environment and experience, as a first reaction to the encounter rather than cuffing and detaining them? Is that beyond our capabilities?mace1229 said:Her death had absolutely zero to do with providing for the caravan. If the US brought In-In-Out, gatorade and put them in a luxury hotel to everyojn in the caravan she'd still be dead. This was a remote desert in NM several hundred miles away from the caravan, not equipped for large people when they had nearly 400 caught in 2 days, a record high. I couldn't find how many it was built to hold, but they called this an "extremely high" number and say this facility was built to house individuals, not multiple families.
So how would preparing for the caravan have prevented this? It would do nothing for that. And promoting the idea that if you just show up you get in will only encourage wreckless attempts like this and will have the same result. We can't be expected to build stations to house thousands across the entire boarder, and provide food water and medical attention to thousands that show up in even remote areas. That is just unrealistic. This is the danger of promoting large groups like this, and there is no way to prepare for it and sustain it for the long term.
If she was one of 20 who were detained she may be alive. But being 1 of 400 who were detained it isn't surprising. Now if she had obvious signs of a serious medical conditions that were made known and went untreated, that would be a different story. None of that is known at the time, so I am going on the assumption that the first physical signs were the seizures, and by then it was too late.
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I knew this was coming. Surprised it took this long.Halifax2TheMax said:How about the US provide a minimum of a health assessment, knowing that the people coming to the border have most likely endured a physically demanding environment and experience, as a first reaction to the encounter rather than cuffing and detaining them? Is that beyond our capabilities?
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Should we not? Have we lost our humanity? Is the death of a 7 year old in US custody just meh?tempo_n_groove said:I knew this was coming. Surprised it took this long.
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I'm pretty sure there were no signs to tell. I'm also not surprised as you paint the whole US border patrol with a broad stroke.Halifax2TheMax said:Should we not? Have we lost our humanity? Is the death of a 7 year old in US custody just meh?
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Why are people so sure there were no signs to tell? I don't get how people are just assuming that. If anything, I think the more likely scenario is the child's parents were pleading for help and their cries may have fallen on deaf ears. Nobody really knows. One thing I do know, is this is not a regular occurrence.www.myspace.com0
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Bravo bro bravo 👏Wobbie said:I thought this thread was about immigration?
just gonna say, I’d rather hang out with a higher percentage of Mexicans in our country than native borns in the good ol’ US of A.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
It’s best if you just admitted you are wrong all you have been saying is excuses you sound like the Baffoon, Comey helping HRC that’s laughable..mace1229 said:No, I cannot find anything where he publicly promotes Hilary. But he removed himself as republican by 2016 election I think before the election. And watching several interviews during his book tour, it was clear to me of his distaste for Trump. He's made it known he doesn't like Trump for a while. That was just he latest of interviews and comments I posted. I dont think Comey is worth talking about, I think we'll ljust have to disagree on who we think he wanted to be president in 2016. I can agree he likely cost Hilary the election, I never disputed that.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I blame this government for the death of 7 yr old ..this administration is evil in all matters there’s nothing anyone can’t point too that you can classify as humanitarian go ahead look for it ..jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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I understand your hatred for trump et al, jose, but it's a little premature to blame the death of this girl on them. we don't know many facts about this yet.josevolution said:I blame this government for the death of 7 yr old ..this administration is evil in all matters there’s nothing anyone can’t point too that you can classify as humanitarian go ahead look for it ..By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I know I’m just venting most likely we won’t find out all the info , it’s totally insane what has happened with the immigration issue..HughFreakingDillon said:I understand your hatred for trump et al, jose, but it's a little premature to blame the death of this girl on them. we don't know many facts about this yet.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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