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  • cropdustdair
    cropdustdair Lakewood, CO / Earth Posts: 2,006
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think they should fire Boom (nicely... with a big cash bonus as thanks).
    You're
     nicer than me. I'd send him out with only the clothes on his back. Never thought he added anything, accept terrible organ playing to what should be, after all...a Pearl Jam show.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
  • KN219077
    KN219077 Montana Posts: 1,204
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    So basically retire? I mean they don’t really put out new music at any pace.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,235
    I hate the elf on the shelf. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    mcgruff10 said:
    I hate the elf on the shelf. 
    My kids have not asked about this yet thank god! 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,235
    PJNB said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    I hate the elf on the shelf. 
    My kids have not asked about this yet thank god! 
    Resist at all costs!!!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,674
    KN219077 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    So basically retire? I mean they don’t really put out new music at any pace.
    Not being able to tour without new music would force them to release more music.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,619
    Never understood the thinking behind "if you don't have a new album, you shouldn't tour." It reduces touring to just marketing for an album, and Pearl Jam shows have become so much more than that over the years.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    cropdustdair said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think they should fire Boom (nicely... with a big cash bonus as thanks).
    You're
     nicer than me. I'd send him out with only the clothes on his back. Never thought he added anything, accept terrible organ playing to what should be, after all...a Pearl Jam show.
    Pearl Jam without Boom was 11 years. Pearl Jam with Boom is about to enter the 17th year. I don’t think it’s up to us at all to determine what does and what doesn’t entail a Pearl Jam show since, you know, we aren’t in the band. With an overwhelming 6 years more in favor of him being a part of the live show, I think it’s safe to say he’s more a part of the live lineup than Dave A, Jack, or Dave K were COMBINED. 
    I can take Boom or leave him, it didn’t matter to me, but the pre conceived notion that an organ has no place in the band’s (key word) live set up is just silly. 
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    Terrifying Ronald McDonald float. Flanked by more auto tuned out talent than you’d ever want in one sitting, let alone a lifetime. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,974
    ledvedderman said:
    cropdustdair said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think they should fire Boom (nicely... with a big cash bonus as thanks).
    You're
     nicer than me. I'd send him out with only the clothes on his back. Never thought he added anything, accept terrible organ playing to what should be, after all...a Pearl Jam show.
    Pearl Jam without Boom was 11 years. Pearl Jam with Boom is about to enter the 17th year. I don’t think it’s up to us at all to determine what does and what doesn’t entail a Pearl Jam show since, you know, we aren’t in the band. With an overwhelming 6 years more in favor of him being a part of the live show, I think it’s safe to say he’s more a part of the live lineup than Dave A, Jack, or Dave K were COMBINED. 
    I can take Boom or leave him, it didn’t matter to me, but the pre conceived notion that an organ has no place in the band’s (key word) live set up is just silly. 
    They're called opinions for a reason. Can I call yours silly now too?
    Obviously we have no power over whether or not the band fires Boom, lol. But for me, how long Boom has been around is 100% irrelevant.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    PJ_Soul said:
    ledvedderman said:
    cropdustdair said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think they should fire Boom (nicely... with a big cash bonus as thanks).
    You're
     nicer than me. I'd send him out with only the clothes on his back. Never thought he added anything, accept terrible organ playing to what should be, after all...a Pearl Jam show.
    Pearl Jam without Boom was 11 years. Pearl Jam with Boom is about to enter the 17th year. I don’t think it’s up to us at all to determine what does and what doesn’t entail a Pearl Jam show since, you know, we aren’t in the band. With an overwhelming 6 years more in favor of him being a part of the live show, I think it’s safe to say he’s more a part of the live lineup than Dave A, Jack, or Dave K were COMBINED. 
    I can take Boom or leave him, it didn’t matter to me, but the pre conceived notion that an organ has no place in the band’s (key word) live set up is just silly. 
    They're called opinions for a reason. Can I call yours silly now too?
    Obviously we have no power over whether or not the band fires Boom, lol. But for me, how long Boom has been around is 100% irrelevant.
    Of course you can. I’m just saying that if we’re looking at numbers, saying a Pearl Jam show doesn’t include Boom is crazy. 17 years vs. 11 years. That’s my point. People still have this wild idea that it’s still 5 guys in a band in their late 20’s jumping around. It hasn’t been that way in far longer than it was that way in total. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,101
    mcgruff10 said:
    I hate the elf on the shelf. 
    Thank God my 15 year old has taken over moving it every night for my other 3 kids.  Too many times I had to jump out of bed after realizing we forgot to move it before going to sleep. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,974
    ledvedderman said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    ledvedderman said:
    cropdustdair said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    I think they should fire Boom (nicely... with a big cash bonus as thanks).
    You're
     nicer than me. I'd send him out with only the clothes on his back. Never thought he added anything, accept terrible organ playing to what should be, after all...a Pearl Jam show.
    Pearl Jam without Boom was 11 years. Pearl Jam with Boom is about to enter the 17th year. I don’t think it’s up to us at all to determine what does and what doesn’t entail a Pearl Jam show since, you know, we aren’t in the band. With an overwhelming 6 years more in favor of him being a part of the live show, I think it’s safe to say he’s more a part of the live lineup than Dave A, Jack, or Dave K were COMBINED. 
    I can take Boom or leave him, it didn’t matter to me, but the pre conceived notion that an organ has no place in the band’s (key word) live set up is just silly. 
    They're called opinions for a reason. Can I call yours silly now too?
    Obviously we have no power over whether or not the band fires Boom, lol. But for me, how long Boom has been around is 100% irrelevant.
    Of course you can. I’m just saying that if we’re looking at numbers, saying a Pearl Jam show doesn’t include Boom is crazy. 17 years vs. 11 years. That’s my point. People still have this wild idea that it’s still 5 guys in a band in their late 20’s jumping around. It hasn’t been that way in far longer than it was that way in total. 
    I never said a PJ show doesn't include Boom. I said I wish it didn't, lol. All your 17 year point is doing for me is highlighting that it's been way too long. ;) I have no thought about the guys being in their 20s jumping around. That has no bearing on my opinion on this at all... I think your head is taking my opinion to places it doesn't belong, haha.
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  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I wasn’t even replying to you, Soul, with my initial reply. 
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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    JimmyV said:
    Never understood the thinking behind "if you don't have a new album, you shouldn't tour." It reduces touring to just marketing for an album, and Pearl Jam shows have become so much more than that over the years.
    I think for me (get ready to attack)  I love a pearl Jam concert but I love new music more.  I don't want Pearl jam to become like (again ready to get attack) the Rolling stones.  also, touring is marketing, maybe not just for a record but for a band.
  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    KN219077 said:
    fife said:
    Unless its for a benefit, please don't do any tours unless introducing new music. 
    So basically retire? I mean they don’t really put out new music at any pace.
    or release new music is an options
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    fife said:
    JimmyV said:
    Never understood the thinking behind "if you don't have a new album, you shouldn't tour." It reduces touring to just marketing for an album, and Pearl Jam shows have become so much more than that over the years.
    I think for me (get ready to attack)  I love a pearl Jam concert but I love new music more.  I don't want Pearl jam to become like (again ready to get attack) the Rolling stones.  also, touring is marketing, maybe not just for a record but for a band.
    I’m with you. New music >  live shows. 
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,974
    ledvedderman said:
    I wasn’t even replying to you, Soul, with my initial reply. 
    Oh yeah, lol.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    2016 NA and 2018 Europe tour > 2013 NA and 2014 Europe/USA tour. The freedom of no album to play allows the sets to be much better imo. Also in the last 10 years they have only come up with two albums. The first was mediocre and the second was better but still had a lot of misses imo. If Can't Deny Me is any indication we are going in the same direction for the next album. I hope I am wrong. 

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