America's Gun Violence

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    Bentleyspop said:
     
    Thoughts and prayers, I guess?
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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    $5 million to end gun violence. It's a start


  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    vaggar99 said:
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

    How many suicides could possibly be prevented if a gun weren't easily accessible? Or, how many mass shootings? Or murders? Heat of the moment type shit? Oh, never mind. Thoughts and prayers, I think.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Four killed today in a shooting at Mercy Hospital in Chicago, including an ER doc and a pharmaceutical assistant, plus a police officer.

    How much more "in your lane" do you need to be, than to be at work, doing your job, when you become the victim of gun violence?

    Go to hell, NRA.

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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    edited November 2018
    ^^not sure about that....seems like we'd probably still be high on the list but maybe down a notches.  but murders, mass shootings etc....i don't see how it could not help.  Thoughts and prayers in the mean time. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,473
    vaggar99 said:
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

    But you can't have sane, normal, decent gun laws because PJPOWER says it's in your beloved culture.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • PJPOWER
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    edited November 2018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

    But you can't have sane, normal, decent gun laws because PJPOWER says it's in your beloved culture.
    I wonder what all of those Swedies kill themselves with...Hand grenades?
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    "Hospitals are supposed to be places of healing, not death,” Eugene Gu, a surgeon and scientist, tweeted late Monday, following a deadly shooting at a hospital in Chicago.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

    But you can't have sane, normal, decent gun laws because PJPOWER says it's in your beloved culture.
    I wonder what all of those Swedies kill themselves with...Hand grenades?

    They're gonna dance themselves to death.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

    But you can't have sane, normal, decent gun laws because PJPOWER says it's in your beloved culture.
    I wonder what all of those Swedies kill themselves with...Hand grenades?

    They're gonna dance themselves to death.
    Hahaha can’t stooooooop daaaannnnnc...........
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,118
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

    But you can't have sane, normal, decent gun laws because PJPOWER says it's in your beloved culture.
    I wonder what all of those Swedies kill themselves with...Hand grenades?
    Why are people so depressed in South Korea?  Damn. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    Wonder why Belgium is highest amongst west Europe and Hungary so high in east Europe.  
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    more telling:

    Grinshteyn, Erin; Hemenway, David (March 2016). "Violent Death Rates: The US Compared with Other High-income OECD Countries, 2010". The American Journal of Medicine. 129 (3): 266–273.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    There's obviously not enough guns.  
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    vaggar99 said:
    Wonder why Belgium is highest amongst west Europe and Hungary so high in east Europe.  
    The numbers are from 2010 and if I remember the background correctly on the Paris terrorists attacks, the firearms came from Belgium, which had relatively laxer gun laws and an issue with illegal weapons and a hunting culture. Hungary, I’d fathom a guess of an aging population and struggles with life 20 years after the fall of communism. But that’s just a guess. Maybe a religious component in both, as well? 
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    mrussel1 said:
    There's obviously not enough guns.  
    not enough good guys with guns you mean.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Yee haw, if only he had a badge to go with it?

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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,420
    Ignorant, hateful, racist,  piece of shit 


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited November 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    vaggar99 said:
    Americans really are a bunch of assholes.  if you're gonna do it, don't leave a mess folks.

    But you can't have sane, normal, decent gun laws because PJPOWER says it's in your beloved culture.
    I wonder what all of those Swedies kill themselves with...Hand grenades?
    Why are people so depressed in South Korea?  Damn. 
    Right? That's what I was wondering. Poor South Koreans. And they seem like such a happy bunch, I thought (I live in an area with a really large South Korean population - they really do seem cheery most of the time, with good senses of humour). How can a society that produced Gangnam Style be so depressed? (and no, I'm not being facetious, lol)
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