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The reason it should be a full day is because you can lose a competitive edge or be unfairly punished for taking time off to vote when others do not.
HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
C’mon, it’s ‘Murica. Where we tell other countries how they should have democratically held elections but then do everything they can to disenfranchise their own electorate. Woot! ‘Murica.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
I don't know if it would help turn out. People have ample chances to vote when they are not working before Tuesday. If they are not motivated to take an hour on a Saturday to do it or fill out an online form to send it in the mail, I don't see them taking eight hours on a Tuesday.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, etc etc.
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I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.0 -
I took a PTO day & my wife has off too , will make a whole day of it ..jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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Exactly how I feel.PJPOWER said:
I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.
The only downside is that, like every other American holiday, it will eventually become an excuse for large portions of the population to get shitfaced.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
Rock the vote?josevolution said:I took a PTO day & my wife has off too , will make a whole day of it ..09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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That’s a downside?rgambs said:
Exactly how I feel.PJPOWER said:
I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.
The only downside is that, like every other American holiday, it will eventually become an excuse for large portions of the population to get shitfaced.
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100% agree!PJPOWER said:
I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.Star Lake 00 / Pittsburgh 03 / State College 03 / Bristow 03 / Cleveland 06 / Camden II 06 / DC 08 / Pittsburgh 13 / Baltimore 13 / Charlottesville 13 / Cincinnati 14 / St. Paul 14 / Hampton 16 / Wrigley I 16 / Wrigley II 16 / Baltimore 20 / Camden 22 / Baltimore 24 / Raleigh I 25 / Raleigh II 25 / Pittsburgh I 250 -
Most likely.rgambs said:
Exactly how I feel.PJPOWER said:
I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.
The only downside is that, like every other American holiday, it will eventually become an excuse for large portions of the population to get shitfaced.
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As long as someone votes, they are free to do what they want with the rest of their day. I don't drink but I support the freedom for people to have hangovers at work on Wednesday.Jason P said:
Most likely.rgambs said:
Exactly how I feel.PJPOWER said:
I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.
The only downside is that, like every other American holiday, it will eventually become an excuse for large portions of the population to get shitfaced.0 -
Those immigrants, they'll never assimilate into American culture.josevolution said:I took a PTO day & my wife has off too , will make a whole day of it .. Have an awesome day tomorrow. 0 -
The state I grew up in doesn't allow alcohol sales until voting closes on election day.njnancy said:
As long as someone votes, they are free to do what they want with the rest of their day. I don't drink but I support the freedom for people to have hangovers at work on Wednesday.Jason P said:
Most likely.rgambs said:
Exactly how I feel.PJPOWER said:
I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.
The only downside is that, like every other American holiday, it will eventually become an excuse for large portions of the population to get shitfaced.
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An employer is required to give an employee unpaid 'leave' for jury duty. Doesn't matter if you are chosen for the jury or if it is just one or two days of waiting to be called. The government pays you a small fee for attending.
It is a hardship for people who are chosen as they may have to go without pay for a long period of time. But jury duty is seen as a civic duty so the federal government requires that employers comply.
You'd think that the same law would be passed for the ability to vote. As a white woman in an urban area, voting is easy. Open early, closed late. Can early vote (somehow) and by absentee ballot. You can walk to your polling place in most parts of NJ. For someone who is in college, a minority, in a red State - it seems that elections are made as difficult as possible. And in this case, it IS the Republicans that are the ones making it harder to vote.
Do not leave a line if you are told you cannot vote because you are not listed or your ID does not match or if they try to close off the line at a certain point if you are voting later in the day and it runs into closing time. If you are in line prior to closing time in your state, you are allowed by law to vote.
Ask for & fill out & hand in a provisional ballot if they insist that you are not listed or don't have the 'right' ID. And do not leave the line, call 866-OUR-VOTE. That is the voter protection hot line and someone will either tell you what to do or they will come to the voting place. Do not be bullied into not voting. And though it's not illegal, keep your smartphone in your pocket when you vote unless there is a problem.0 -
Yeah, exactly, and that's why I think it's a bad idea. It could actually lead to fewer people voting rather than more.rgambs said:
Exactly how I feel.PJPOWER said:
I’d be good with trading out Columbus Day with it (since it is pretty ridiculous to have a Columbus Day anyway). I think that celebrating the day that you have the right to vote would be way more meaningful in the whole spectrum of democracy.PJ_Soul said:HughFreakingDillon said:
just assumed not with all the calls for a "national holiday". I think a full day off to vote is a bit much. but I guess it depends how far you have to go to vote.PJ_Soul said:
Is there not a similar law in the US? Surely there is something that ensures all people can go vote, even if they have shit employers who don't want them to take the time??HughFreakingDillon said:
in canada it's law for a workplace to allow a certain amount of time paid leave to go vote. I don't bother, I just vote after dinner, but it's a good thing they do that for folks that are too busy with kids, etc, to leave the house to vote.pjhawks said:Pennsylvania has no early voting but Ill be there at 7:00 am before work when the polls open.
and yes agree with PJ it should be a holiday. they don't make it very convenient.Yeah, it seems like a bit much to me as well. I'd be curious to see how much the voter turnout increased if they actually did this though... Would it really go up? I don't know. It seems to me that the vast majority of people who don't vote could very easily do so if only they wanted to bother with it. I kind of think that those who don't vote because it's "inconvenient" on a work day still wouldn't vote if it was a national holiday... they'd always find a reason why it's not convenient. Lines too long, too much to do on a national holiday, had to stay home and host the BBQ, etc etc.
The only downside is that, like every other American holiday, it will eventually become an excuse for large portions of the population to get shitfaced.
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