Don Lemon: 'White men' are biggest terror threat to US, and there is no travel ban on them

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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    unsung said:
    Smellyman said:
    Again.  I shall bold it this time.

    Is the biggest TERROR threat in the US not white men?


    And right wing.......
    500 people are killed in Chicago a year.  It isn’t the white man terrorizing those streets.

    I’d say the biggest terror threat to the US is the people that pull the strings of Congress, people that have us fight unneeded war.  People responsible for the destruction of the dollar.  That is more of a threat to your freedom than some fringe wacko.

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Lerxst1992 said:
    my2hands said:
    Ahhhhhh, the demonization of the white male.... not the best poltical strategy in my opinion

    I have a white penis... BOO! lol

    Blacks committ more murders per year than whites, even though they only represent 13% of the population... but nobody on the left ever wants to talk about that, doesnt fit their political agenda i guess... wonder why Don doesnt want to talk about that? I guess we are only allowed to talk about bad things white people do, specifically white males

    Carry on, good luck Unsung lol


    Because, within a few days, a white man killed two black people BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK

    Because a white man tried to kill twelve prominent democrats BECAUSE THEY WERE DEMOCRATS

    Because a white man killed eleven Jews BECAUSE THEY WERE JEWS.

    .
    I'm well aware
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Don Lemon is a racist.

    Disclaimer: That is not saying others are not racist. I am just trying to state the simplest fact related to THIS thread.
    I disagree with that. How do we know? Any evidence?

    We LOVE to throw that word around nowadays
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    my2hands said:
    Smellyman said:
    Again.  I shall bold it this time.

    Is the biggest TERROR threat in the US not white men?


    And right wing.......
    I know they are responsible for the majority of events... but i need to look at the information a little closer at the stats... whites represent a majority of the country, so they should theoretically lead in just about everything... 

    The question i have is are they overrepresented, underrepresented, or about average when it comes to attacks per capita, or % wise... 
    Exactly, pretty simple mathematics...It’s like saying that city dwellers are more violent because metropolitan areas experience more violence.  Correlation does not always = causation, anyone that took a stats course should have had that drilled into their brains.


    Asked and answered just a few posts above yours.
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  • riotgrl
    riotgrl LOUISVILLE Posts: 1,895
    Non-Hispanic white men comprise about 30% of the overall US population so if we look at the statistics from above that state roughly 80% of domestic terrorism is committed by white men then they are overrepresented based on the percentage of the population.

    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217
    Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?

    Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...

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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    my2hands said:
    Ahhhhhh, the demonization of the white male.... not the best poltical strategy in my opinion

    I have a white penis... BOO! lol

    Blacks committ more murders per year than whites, even though they only represent 13% of the population... but nobody on the left ever wants to talk about that, doesnt fit their political agenda i guess... wonder why Don doesnt want to talk about that? I guess we are only allowed to talk about bad things white people do, specifically white males

    Carry on, good luck Unsung lol
    This is what I was saying before. I think liberals talk about the disproportionate homicide rate often, but what they don’t do as much is talk about it as a distraction or tangent, which is what you just did. A domestic terrorist is way more likely to be a white guy, which is the subject. Same with Kaep taking a knee; the subject is racism, not black on black crime, but how many times do conservatives immediately go to that when criticizing him? 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    cincybearcat said:
    dignin said:
    cincybearcat said:
    oftenreading said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Smellyman said:
    Again.  I shall bold it this time.

    Is the biggest TERROR threat in the US not white men?


    And right wing.......
    Hmmm... Would you consider Gang violence to be terror?  I bet the neighborhoods they are shooting up do.  But I'll have to look at the definition of "terror" and then find out how many gang incidents are due to which race.  Cause, I'd consider gangs to be the #1 terror threat inside america.
    No, I wouldn’t consider gang violence to be terrorism, nor would police. They are quite different beasts with different goals. Just because someone  feels fear when they witness or are the victum of a crime doesn’t make it terrorism; if so, any violent crime would be considered terrorism. 

    This article looks at a study comparing domestic terrorists and gangs and does not find many commonalities. 

    https://www.colorado.edu/today/2017/05/18/domestic-terrorists-gang-members-have-little-common-study-shows
    Yeah but he said biggest terror threat not terrorism.  Words matter.
    So does context, and you know exactly what he was referring to.
    Ok, perhaps.

    Back to Lemon, answer me this... and I happen to like Don Lemon...but why is he bringing up a travel ban to combat domestic terrorism?  Cause this makes no sense to me expect to try and compare things that don't fit to be compared.
    It’s a criticism of trump on two fronts. One that there’s is no urgent reaction to do something about domestic terrorism like there is with terrorism from foreigners. And it’s also a criticism for the fact that trump was identifying religion as the issue, so it’s highlighting his bigotry and bias. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Don Lemon is a racist.

    Disclaimer: That is not saying others are not racist. I am just trying to state the simplest fact related to THIS thread.
    Never saw you drop this nugget about trump in the trump thread. 
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,689
    unsung said:
    Smellyman said:
    Again.  I shall bold it this time.

    Is the biggest TERROR threat in the US not white men?


    And right wing.......
    500 people are killed in Chicago a year.  It isn’t the white man terrorizing those streets.

    I’d say the biggest terror threat to the US is the people that pull the strings of Congress, people that have us fight unneeded war.  People responsible for the destruction of the dollar.  That is more of a threat to your freedom than some fringe wacko.
    Feeling terror and terrorism are two different things. And the homicide rate is higher in several other cities, by the way. I know you’re following along with the right wing talking points, though
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    riotgrl said:
    Non-Hispanic white men comprise about 30% of the overall US population so if we look at the statistics from above that state roughly 80% of domestic terrorism is committed by white men then they are overrepresented based on the percentage of the population.

    https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217
    Oh, i concede the point on males... males have always been more violent throughout history, everywhere...

    Lemon didnt say "men" are the biggest terror threat... which is absolutely accurate as they are WAY overrepresented statistically in terror attacks... and all violence in general as mentioned... i actually think that is a much more important talking point for society to discuss... he said white men... which brings race into it... which makes it a little more complicated of a discussion in my opinion... ill have to look at it a little later

    The male factor is pretty static in my opinion given the known historical data when it comes to gender and violence... the race factor is maybe dynamic, and thats what im interested in


  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,124

    My question.

    What is making the White Men so damned angry?

    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

    My question.

    What is making the White Men so damned angry?

    It's a very simplistic answer but I would say eroding power, in almost all aspects in life. They want to have what dad and grandpa had.
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

    My question.

    What is making the White Men so damned angry?

    Women....it's always women /s

    Did I do it right this time?
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Go Beavers said:
    EdsonNascimento said:
    Don Lemon is a racist.

    Disclaimer: That is not saying others are not racist. I am just trying to state the simplest fact related to THIS thread.
    Never saw you drop this nugget about trump in the trump thread. 
    Suddenly, everyone cares deeply about racism. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,673
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

    My question.

    What is making the White Men so damned angry?

    Black people 
    Brown people
    Women people
    Gay and lesbian people 
    Trans people
    Jewish people
    Funny named people 
    Weird religion people
    Other people
    Etc etc
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 27,124
    cincybearcat said:
    SPEEDY MCCREADY said:

    My question.

    What is making the White Men so damned angry?

    Women....it's always women /s

    Did I do it right this time?
    There is truth to that statement. Loneliness and not being loved will make a man insane. I have seen it in friends and coworkers. It hasn't made them insane, but it has made them bitter and angry.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,813
    Ask Gaia and she will tell you, "Are you kidding?  All you humans are  the biggest terrorists!"
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Lerxst1992 said:
    Holy crap, how is it not completely obvious that targeted murder based on a victims demographics or beliefs is completely different from crime even to people on a liberal bands forum isn't obvious? Next Tues America may be totally screwed.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    edited November 2018
    josevolution said:
    I’d say most of us understand what racism is but most of us don’t know what it feels to be on the receiving end of racism ! 
    I don't know what it's like to live with it on a consistent basis at all obviously (I only have to live with discrimination against women on a regular basis). Although I have been on the receiving end of racism several times, like as one-offs. There are some super racist Chinese people in Vancouver - they really hate white people. They call us rats and rodents in their own language right in front of us sometimes, according to my Chinese-speaking friends. Normally I get it in Chinese restaurants owned by racists from China. And yeah, it sucks, and it makes me mad. I always do an online review of the establishment and advertise that they are like that afterwards.
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  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    PJ_Soul said:
    josevolution said:
    I’d say most of us understand what racism is but most of us don’t know what it feels to be on the receiving end of racism ! 
    I don't know what it's like to live with it on a consistent basis at all obviously (I only have to live with discrimination against women on a regular basis). Although I have been on the receiving end of racism several times, like as one-offs. There are some super racist Chinese people in Vancouver - they really hate white people. They call us rats and rodents in their own language right in front of us sometimes, according to my Chinese-speaking friends. Normally I get it in Chinese restaurants owned by racists from China. And yeah, it sucks, and it makes me mad. I always do an online review of the establishment and advertise that they are like that afterwards.
    hmmm.  I will have to get to some Chinese restaurants in Vancouver to see if true.

    Usually you have to be some pretty douchey customers to elicit that response.

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