2020 Tour Rumor Thread

Vedd Hedd said:

Again...if they play a normal size tour with more dates, the "demand" for Chicago, NY, etc would be less.   Keep in mind, some people can only afford 1 or 2 shows.  So, this year, they had to choose Wrigley, Seattle, Boston, or Missoula.   And Missoula being out of the way, and only 1 show...most people had to choose Seattle, Wrigley, or Boston. 

If they played Portland, the demand for Seattle would drop slightly.  If they played Milwaukee, Detroit, or Indianapolis, the demand for Chicago would drop.   Throwing those other cities in there helps keep the demand from being too crazy.  Therefore you dont have to set up a 9 night residency anywhere.  But yeah, you could do that in NYC....because not only would the population there cover it, people would also try to fly there just to see them for that.   Sorry, NYC, you get lots of visitors in addition to your huge population. 
 
Leg 1
Toronto
Montreal
Buffalo
NYC
NYC
Boston
Boston
Philly
Pittsburgh
Columbus
DC
Atlanta
Miami
Tampa

Leg 2

Chicago 
Chicago
East Troy
St Louis
New Orleans
Dallas
Houston
Denver
Phoenix
San Diego
Los Angeles
San Fransisco
Portland
Vancouver
Seattle
Seattle



But this will never happen. 

Having residencies does many things. It lowers the bands wear and tear being in constant motion. It drastically cuts down backline work. It allows family increased opportunity to join the band. It maximizes performance time over travel.

Im observing their touring trends lately and it seems they tour less than average, less than other bands do, even fellow mega stars like the Stones or Bruce did when they were in their 50s. I get it, every night away from my family is not fun. So viola, summer residency and family.

Then i look at the stadium shows the last few years. Huge time and cost commitment to build a stage, a night for sound check and always a day off between the shows. All that effort for 95% of the fans to have a terrible view of the stage and very few shows for all that travel and effort. No side stage seats, no seats in the wings, no backstage seats. No second level seats that are actually decent. If you're  not in the first 25 rows in a stadium, the view is terrible.

Having residencies does many things. It lowers the bands wear and tear being in constant motion. It drastically cuts down backline work. It allows family increased opportunity to join the band. It maximizes performance time over travel.

Im observing their touring trends lately and it seems they tour less than average, less than other bands do, even fellow mega stars like the Stones or Bruce did when they were in their 50s. I get it, every night away from my family is not fun. So viola, summer residency and family.

Then i look at the stadium shows the last few years. Huge time and cost commitment to build a stage, a night for sound check and always a day off between the shows. All that effort for 95% of the fans to have a terrible view of the stage and very few shows for all that travel and effort. No side stage seats, no seats in the wings, no backstage seats. No second level seats that are actually decent. If you're  not in the first 25 rows in a stadium, the view is terrible.

jbrownie said:

I, for one (probably the only one) wish they could do something like the Allman Bros. did & hold down 3 weeks @ the Beacon in NYC. But I dunno how they could make everyone happy ticketwise. All I know is that the ABB had a pretty devoted fan base, I always got tix (not always the best seats, or the nights I'd hoped for initially), & it was always magic. I think PJ is just too big, and we are too fanatical.

This would be kind of cool if the ten club could secure a lot of fan club tickets.  Each member could enter the lottery and win 2 tickets to one show only.

I know they would never do this, and not even sure fans would want them to, but if they do a "residency" do what MMJ did and play a full album show each night, with B-sides and covers mixed in.  Make it clear that these will not be marathon 3hr, 30 song sets.  Maybe 18-20 songs tops.  Of course, the demand for the first 5 albums would be insane, but it would really open up for later albums, haha.  

CantKeepmedown said:

I know they would never do this, and not even sure fans would want them to, but if they do a "residency" do what MMJ did and play a full album show each night, with B-sides and covers mixed in.  Make it clear that these will not be marathon 3hr, 30 song sets.  Maybe 18-20 songs tops.  Of course, the demand for the first 5 albums would be insane, but it would really open up for later albums, haha.  

evenflow82 said:

How about Minnesota? :-)

http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/171885/the-play-minnesota-thread/p1

Exactly!

Zod said:

Having residencies does many things. It lowers the bands wear and tear being in constant motion. It drastically cuts down backline work. It allows family increased opportunity to join the band. It maximizes performance time over travel.

Im observing their touring trends lately and it seems they tour less than average, less than other bands do, even fellow mega stars like the Stones or Bruce did when they were in their 50s. I get it, every night away from my family is not fun. So viola, summer residency and family.

Then i look at the stadium shows the last few years. Huge time and cost commitment to build a stage, a night for sound check and always a day off between the shows. All that effort for 95% of the fans to have a terrible view of the stage and very few shows for all that travel and effort. No side stage seats, no seats in the wings, no backstage seats. No second level seats that are actually decent. If you're  not in the first 25 rows in a stadium, the view is terrible.

I agree and disagree with you.  I don't think Stadium shows are a huge time commitment.   I don't count the day off in between because I think it's for rest.  I don't think the venue needs it.   Given what happened in Europe I'm doubting the band would do back to backs in other venues anymore either.   The band has a paid crew who sets up the stage.   They only need to be there for 4ish days.   Soundcheck day plus the additional 3 days.  They play to 90000 to 10000 fans in four days.   If they moved that to an arena.  You need 5-6 shows to make up those numbers.  If they gap them a day a part you're looking at 12+ day time commitment.   With a band that doesn't like to tour for too long, what do you think they're going to lean towards?  Anyway you cut, it's way more efficient to play to 45000 to 50000 fans a night instead of 18 to 20 thousand.

The part I agree with you on is that arenas are better than stadiums.   It's so much less hassle at arena shows because there's way less people.  The venues are nicer.  Most modern arenas were built with acoustics in mind.  They sound great.   Arena's rock.   Our only issue is PJ doesn't like to be away from home.  They have the habit of trying to reach the most of fans while playing the least amount of shows.  It's what they do :(

I though I read in 2016 they needed the middle day off at Fenway for weather contingencies, and they were not available to make up the date once they left town.

 But as has been pointed out, other Fenway acts went on consecutive nights this year. 2016 had plenty of consecutive arena shows but both stadium stops did not. This year there were 2 consecutive stands in Europe iirc.

A lot of the back line stadium setup is mandated local union labor at the large venues in the traditional U.S. union cities. (the venues provide the union muscle moving gear from the street, the bands provide the fine tuning set up inside, unless there is a special setup arrangement).

The stadium set up and tear down is time consuming and expensive. It's all done from scratch, unlike an arena that has built in logistics. They have also been fortunate not having to cancel outdoor shows, although a couple of very close calls.

 If consecutive night shows are no longer an option, then I agree there is no way to make up the access for fans a stadium provides. Otherwise, if they can play back to back nights once a week, maybe arena residency is possible. 

Hopefully there is a way to try something other than baseball stadiums, they are especially vast near the stage. And the older stadiums have too many obstructed views. Welp.

This is how 2019 should go:

Australia & New Zealand (first headline shows in 10 years, as 2014 was for Big Day Out, which some older fans did not attend)
Japan (first time since 2003)
Singapore (first time since 1995)
Hawaii (first time since 2006)

Up for NZ gigs except in Q2 as I'll be in Asia. Best case scenario I fly there the day after attending the Alice In Chains show in Auckland in March.

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