Beto O'Rourke

CM189191 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

How can guns be such a big thing for americans.... it's just... I mean... it's not the environment, health care, education... 

Gun ownership is a big part of the structural racism that's baked into our society.  2A was written into our constitution to keep slaves in line.  It's used today to keep minorities in line.  

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

There are people that are anti-abortion and for sex education and access to birth control, etc.

Excellent, good thing they have the option to not get an abortion if they still accidentally get pregnant.

Using this same standard...if you are for gun control...good thing you don't have to buy a gun.  If you are for providing food to the poor...good thing you can send them your paycheck.  Such a stupid, ignorant bullshit talking point remark.

That's not comparable IMO, because other people owning guns still puts people who don't own guns in danger.

Nice false equivalencies though.

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

There are people that are anti-abortion and for sex education and access to birth control, etc.

Excellent, good thing they have the option to not get an abortion if they still accidentally get pregnant.

Using this same standard...if you are for gun control...good thing you don't have to buy a gun.  If you are for providing food to the poor...good thing you can send them your paycheck.  Such a stupid, ignorant bullshit talking point remark.

That's not comparable IMO, because other people owning guns still puts people who don't own guns in danger.

Nice false equivalencies though.

Not false. Cause abortion puts someone’s life at risk (ends it) other than the woman having the abortion.

But we will just go around in circles on this. 

False, because fetuses are a part of the woman's body before it's born. We certainly will go in circles, yes, but I'll say that it's probably easy for a man to say that, when the freedom to do what they want with their own bodies isn't at stake. Get back to me when you can get pregnant and I'll put more stock into what you have to say on the matter.

Of course we can all be pretty sure that if men could get pregnant, abortion wouldn't be a matter of debate in government at all.

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

There are people that are anti-abortion and for sex education and access to birth control, etc.

Excellent, good thing they have the option to not get an abortion if they still accidentally get pregnant.

Using this same standard...if you are for gun control...good thing you don't have to buy a gun.  If you are for providing food to the poor...good thing you can send them your paycheck.  Such a stupid, ignorant bullshit talking point remark.

That's not comparable IMO, because other people owning guns still puts people who don't own guns in danger.

Nice false equivalencies though.

Not false. Cause abortion puts someone’s life at risk (ends it) other than the woman having the abortion.

But we will just go around in circles on this. 

False, because fetuses are a part of the woman's body before it's born. We certainly will go in circles, yes, but I'll say that it's probably easy for a man to say that, when the freedom to do what they want with their own bodies isn't at stake. Get back to me when you can get pregnant and I'll put more stock into what you have to say on the matter.

Of course we can all be pretty sure that if men could get pregnant, abortion wouldn't be a matter of debate in government at all.

Try banning vascectomies and eliminating prescriptions for Viagra. Watch those pasty old repubs be filled with outrage.

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

PJ_Soul said:

cincybearcat said:

There are people that are anti-abortion and for sex education and access to birth control, etc.

Excellent, good thing they have the option to not get an abortion if they still accidentally get pregnant.

Using this same standard...if you are for gun control...good thing you don't have to buy a gun.  If you are for providing food to the poor...good thing you can send them your paycheck.  Such a stupid, ignorant bullshit talking point remark.

That's not comparable IMO, because other people owning guns still puts people who don't own guns in danger.

Nice false equivalencies though.

Not false. Cause abortion puts someone’s life at risk (ends it) other than the woman having the abortion.

But we will just go around in circles on this. 

False, because fetuses are a part of the woman's body before it's born. We certainly will go in circles, yes, but I'll say that it's probably easy for a man to say that, when the freedom to do what they want with their own bodies isn't at stake. Get back to me when you can get pregnant and I'll put more stock into what you have to say on the matter.

Of course we can all be pretty sure that if men could get pregnant, abortion wouldn't be a matter of debate in government at all.

Try banning vascectomies and eliminating prescriptions for Viagra. Watch those pasty old repubs be filled with outrage.

Actually, I think most men would be fine with banning vasectomies. Isn’t contraception the job of the woman anyway?

But don’t dare get rid of that viagra. 

I believe that the majority of men are still against getting vasectomies anyhow, because they still ridiculously feel like it somehow impacts their delicate sense of manhood. I have known SO many men who preferred that their wives continue to use the pill after the age of 35 all the way to menopause, despite the very real health risks of doing so, than get a simple vasectomy.

mickeyrat said:

endorsed by Houston Chronicle.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/412284-houston-chronicle-endorses-beto-orourke-in-texas-senate-race

The Houston Chronicle on Friday endorsed Democratic Senate candidate Beto O'Rourke in his bid to unseat incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) in the closely watched Texas Senate race.

"With eyes clear but certainly not starry, we enthusiastically endorse Beto O'Rourke for U.S. Senate," the Chronicle's editorial board wrote in its endorsement. "The West Texas congressman's command of issues that matter to this state, his unaffected eloquence and his eagerness to reach out to all Texans make him one of the most impressive candidates this editorial board has encountered in many years."

The board notes that O'Rourke, a congressman in an El Paso-based district, faces "long odds" to become the first Democrat Texas could vote into the Senate in three decades. The board writes that a victory for O'Rourke would be beneficial for the state "not only because of his skills, both personal and political, but also because of the manifest inadequacies of the man he would replace."

The board, which notes that it endorsed Cruz's candidacy in the 2012 Senate race, criticized Cruz in its endorsement of O'Rourke, saying the incumbent has exhibited "little interest in addressing the needs of his fellow Texans during his six years in office."

"For Cruz, public office is a private quest; the needs of his constituents are secondary," the board wrote, also citing his pivotal role in a federal government shutdown in 2013, as well as his "nay" vote for the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act — a law that authorized $60 billion for relief agencies that were aiding Hurricane Sandy victims.

The board also pointed to the negative public comments Cruz has received from his Republican colleagues.

Former House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) once said, "I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life." Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), the board notes, once said: "If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you."

"What sets O'Rourke apart, aside from the remarkable campaign he's running, are policy positions in keeping with a candidate duly aware of the traditionally conservative Texas voter he would be representing in the U.S. Senate," the board continues.

The board then goes on to conclude that O'Rourke would serve as a check to President Trump, whom it describes as a "danger to the republic."

"Cruz is unwilling to take on that responsibility."

O'Rourke has gained a national following in his quest to unseat Cruz for his Senate seat. Still, polls have shown Cruz maintaining a solid lead. A poll released by CNN this week showed Cruz with a 7-point advantage. The nonpartisan Cook Political report has rated the race a "toss-up."

Jason P said:

Having a bunch of immigrant families getting separated from their children to maybe tip a senate race is a messed up strategy of hope.