I’d shit my pants ifPJ covered Bob Seger’s Traveling Man/Beautiful Loser live version
I'd shit my pants if PJ covered Bob Seger's "Katmandu".....
It's amazing how much of a "local" act Seger was so far into his career. From wiki: In June 1976, he was a featured performer at the Pontiac Silverdome outside Detroit in front of nearly 80,000 fans. The next night, Seger played before fewer than a thousand people in Chicago. He had 8 studio albums by June 1976 with the majority of the songs people know!
I think Eddie would sound great on Ramblin' Gamblin' Man, too...multiple Seger covers next Detroit show!!!
I’d shit my pants ifPJ covered Bob Seger’s Traveling Man/Beautiful Loser live version
I'd shit my pants if PJ covered Bob Seger's "Katmandu".....
It's amazing how much of a "local" act Seger was so far into his career. From wiki: In June 1976, he was a featured performer at the Pontiac Silverdome outside Detroit in front of nearly 80,000 fans. The next night, Seger played before fewer than a thousand people in Chicago. He had 8 studio albums by June 1976 with the majority of the songs people know!
I think Eddie would sound great on Ramblin' Gamblin' Man, too...multiple Seger covers next Detroit show!!!
One of my favorites, I support that cover suggestion!
There is no objective way to come to naming greatest. Every band mentioned has made a mark in some way.
What I appreciate is I’ve listened to a bunch of albums I ve never listened to before due to comments here.
That being said how has no one thrown out Huey Lewis and the news? In all seriousness, though, that was a show I saw in 96 (free tickets) and I was shocked at how great it was.
"...what a different life had i not found this love with you..."
There is no objective way to come to naming greatest. Every band mentioned has made a mark in some way.
What I appreciate is I’ve listened to a bunch of albums I ve never listened to before due to comments here.
That being said how has no one thrown out Huey Lewis and the news? In all seriousness, though, that was a show I saw in 96 (free tickets) and I was shocked at how great it was.
Impossible to argue against their mid-80s output...and it's been mostly the same lineup since the beginning
The clear winner in my book is Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.
Nobody hates TP&HB. Nobody. Some people may not be a fan, but they are pretty unhateable. They were able to span decades and continually put out rock and roll music.
The Eagles, while some love and almost all understand/respect their place in music history; quite frankly, are a band that has become simply unlikable to many.
Bruce and the E-Street band seem to be loved or hated my most. I kind of think of him musically as a John Mellencamp on steroids. Huge home state love. Good clean rock and roll. Fun and energetic. Songs everybody from everywhere from every background know. But not enough to be best ever.
You say home state love, but Bruce is playing 4 hour shows at 61 years old in Gothenburg, Sweden to full soccer stadiums. I get the argument for TP&H but I don't think his live shows can live up to 3-4 hour Bruce shows that have a lot of variety.
not lately they don't.
Ouch!
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I'm gonna go with Love, just on pure musical genius. To hell with criteria. But I also think that Dylan, Petty, Creedance, Hendrix, Soundgarden, Nirvana, Tool, and The Doors could all flip flop around in the top depending on my mood. When it comes to music I don't put much stock into sales/popularity when I am talking about "the greatest". It is well known that the masses have no taste, case in point: Justin Bieber, The Orange One, and "Friends". NOT the fucking Eagles Man....or Aerosmith (Bob Seger-WHAT?)
We need a control-alt-delete and the opportunity to start fresh without all the 'litter' and 'glitches' present.
Some nominations are the equivalent of Homer Simpson's vote for 'Man Getting Hit by Football' over Barney's "Pukahontas' in the Springfield film festival.
There is no objective way to come to naming greatest. Every band mentioned has made a mark in some way.
What I appreciate is I’ve listened to a bunch of albums I ve never listened to before due to comments here.
That being said how has no one thrown out Huey Lewis and the news? In all seriousness, though, that was a show I saw in 96 (free tickets) and I was shocked at how great it was.
Huey Lewis and the News are great. I'm so sad about the recent news about Huey's hearing. He's recently been diagnosed with Meniere's Disease, in case people hadn't heard. He had to cancel the 2018 tour because of it. His career is likely over, or will be soon. So, so sad. I can't imagine how scary it would be to learn that you will likely permanently lose your hearing after a slow, agonizing decline, especially when your whole life and career and passion relies on being able to hear.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I may be wrong here but in nine pages of thread I don’t think I’ve seen a single mention of Queens of the Stone Age.
as "best american rock band ever" ??? OK i'll bite on this one...nope not even close!
Well as a huge QOTSA fan, I think they are right up there in terms of their music - they rival the best, including PJ, IMO. They wouldn't meet the criteria here though, you're right, just because of album sales and shit.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Anyways... just got back from two days at the Gorge watching DMB. Re-watching the Saturday show on YouTube and having a Space Dust IPA (actually 2 for that matter).
Sorry haters... DMB is in the discussion and as a solid contender.
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Okay, I've just skimmed the 9 pages of this and for me, many are letting personal favourites cloud their lists. No way in hell are bands like QOTSA, ID, Foos, Black Crowes etc in the conversation for the GREATEST American Rock band. When you look at some of the album sales alone from these bands, they don't even get near some of the 70's & 80's bands. If we are talking about sales, longevity, concerts/Tours, then these bands are the only ones that should be in the discussion IMO -
Bruce and E Street Band (if he's accepted as a band) Eagles Metallica Bon Jovi (Not a fan, but can't argue with their popularity/sales and longevity) Aerosmith GD (Personally don't get it, but I'm not American and have never been exposed to them) Tom Petty & HB Beach Boys Pearl Jam
Next Tier CCR Bob Segar Van Halen GnR REM Green Day
I'll ride the wave where it takes me
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
Okay, I've just skimmed the 9 pages of this and for me, many are letting personal favourites cloud their lists. No way in hell are bands like QOTSA, ID, Foos, Black Crowes etc in the conversation for the GREATEST American Rock band. When you look at some of the album sales alone from these bands, they don't even get near some of the 70's & 80's bands. If we are talking about sales, longevity, concerts/Tours, then these bands are the only ones that should be in the discussion IMO -
Bruce and E Street Band (if he's accepted as a band) Eagles Metallica Bon Jovi (Not a fan, but can't argue with their popularity/sales and longevity) Aerosmith GD (Personally don't get it, but I'm not American and have never been exposed to them) Tom Petty & HB Beach Boys Pearl Jam
Next Tier CCR Bob Segar Van Halen GnR REM Green Day
I think you're correct - all above artists are in RR HoF, too. Might put REM in tier 1, however.
All variables aside... these are album sales within the US:
Eagles 101 million units sold in the US Aerosmith 66.5 million Metallica 62 million Van Halen 56 million Journey 48 million GnRoses 44.5 million Santana 43.5 million Bob Seger 43.5 million Chicago 38.5 million Foreigner 37 million Bon Jovi 34.5 million Dave Matthews Band 33.5 million The Doors 33 million Pearl Jam 31.5 million Tom Petty 31.5 million Boston 31 million Lynyrd Skynyrd 28.5 million CCR 28 million Nirvana 25 million Motley Crue 25 million RHCP 25 million ZZ Top 25 million
Okay, I've just skimmed the 9 pages of this and for me, many are letting personal favourites cloud their lists. No way in hell are bands like QOTSA, ID, Foos, Black Crowes etc in the conversation for the GREATEST American Rock band. When you look at some of the album sales alone from these bands, they don't even get near some of the 70's & 80's bands. If we are talking about sales, longevity, concerts/Tours, then these bands are the only ones that should be in the discussion IMO -
Bruce and E Street Band (if he's accepted as a band) Eagles Metallica Bon Jovi (Not a fan, but can't argue with their popularity/sales and longevity) Aerosmith GD (Personally don't get it, but I'm not American and have never been exposed to them) Tom Petty & HB Beach Boys Pearl Jam
Next Tier CCR Bob Segar Van Halen GnR REM Green Day
I think you're correct - all above artists are in RR HoF, too. Might put R.E.M. In tier 1, however.
Add The Doors to the top list. Swap CCR and Van Halen with PJ and Bon Jovi.
Bon Jovi has no influence to speak of and I think that’s maybe the most important aspect.
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I think Eddie would sound great on Ramblin' Gamblin' Man, too...multiple Seger covers next Detroit show!!!
Ridiculous thread regardless lol
There's been some other bands anointed in this thread as one of the best ever that would sit in a tier with these guys.
Eagles
The Ramones
and Bob Seger and The Silver Bullet Band
What I appreciate is I’ve listened to a bunch of albums I ve never listened to before due to comments here.
That being said how has no one thrown out Huey Lewis and the news? In all seriousness, though, that was a show I saw in 96 (free tickets) and I was shocked at how great it was.
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Some nominations are the equivalent of Homer Simpson's vote for 'Man Getting Hit by Football' over Barney's "Pukahontas' in the Springfield film festival.
Pukahontas:
Man:
OK i'll bite on this one...nope not even close!
Huey Lewis and the News are great.
I'm so sad about the recent news about Huey's hearing. He's recently been diagnosed with Meniere's Disease, in case people hadn't heard. He had to cancel the 2018 tour because of it. His career is likely over, or will be soon. So, so sad.
Hampton 2016
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Anyways... just got back from two days at the Gorge watching DMB. Re-watching the Saturday show on YouTube and having a Space Dust IPA (actually 2 for that matter).
Sorry haters... DMB is in the discussion and as a solid contender.
Me, not so much...
If we are talking about sales, longevity, concerts/Tours, then these bands are the only ones that should be in the discussion IMO -
Bruce and E Street Band (if he's accepted as a band)
Eagles
Metallica
Bon Jovi (Not a fan, but can't argue with their popularity/sales and longevity)
Aerosmith
GD (Personally don't get it, but I'm not American and have never been exposed to them)
Tom Petty & HB
Beach Boys
Pearl Jam
Next Tier
CCR
Bob Segar
Van Halen
GnR
REM
Green Day
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1995
*BEC, Brisbane, March 1998
*BEC, Brisbane, November 2006
*QSAC, Brisbane November 2009
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane March 10 and 12 2011
*Big Day Out, Gold Coast, 19 Jan 2014
*EV Solo, QPAC, Brisbane, 22,23 & 25 Feb 2014
Eagles 101 million units sold in the US
Aerosmith 66.5 million
Metallica 62 million
Van Halen 56 million
Journey 48 million
GnRoses 44.5 million
Santana 43.5 million
Bob Seger 43.5 million
Chicago 38.5 million
Foreigner 37 million
Bon Jovi 34.5 million
Dave Matthews Band 33.5 million
The Doors 33 million
Pearl Jam 31.5 million
Tom Petty 31.5 million
Boston 31 million
Lynyrd Skynyrd 28.5 million
CCR 28 million
Nirvana 25 million
Motley Crue 25 million
RHCP 25 million
ZZ Top 25 million
https://www.cnn.com/2016/12/28/entertainment/gallery/successful-rock-bands-history-of-chicago/index.html
Bon Jovi has no influence to speak of and I think that’s maybe the most important aspect.