America's Gun Violence

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  • blackhawks
    blackhawks Posts: 307
    One problem are the current regs are not even enforced as stiffly as they should by our govt.  That is a problem I have as a gun owner.  There are people I have seen who have zero business possessing a gun.  I would like to see tightening of those regs and well as STRICT enforcement of them.

    There are Olympic games that feature guns and those are safe as anything else.  I have never thought of my competitive shooting as 'cool' but just something I do with friends.  I have been around them my whole life from the farm onwards.  They are nothing scary, etc. to me.  I was also in the Marines so I am well versed in using guns and was taught respect and safety at a young age (not as common now from the hone to school to be honest).  I have attended corporate events at sporting ranges so it is in the culture of our country for sure.  People enjoy it and look forward to those events.  It is all how you are brought up.  In the city I would not care for much and there is enough solution, crime, etc. yet do not try to dictate who or what people do there.  The people in rural areas have a much different life than city people and dictating to them without understanding them is something I do not agree with.  
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    Yeah... I have heard the standard arguments for guns many times over.... I get the feeling that many Americans just don't really get where people from outside America are coming from in terms of their attitudes about guns. It's not like there aren't any guns in other countries and it's not like they aren't used for sport in those countries, and still no other countries have the same problems. It's all about the American gun culture/fetish. It's like something that is way deep under the skin of Americans... it's something that leads so many more Americans to turn to their guns to solve problems compared to other nationalities, it leads to a way more cavalier attitude about them, causing so many more accidents with firearms, etc.

    I mean, shit...




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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    PJ_Soul said:
    Yeah... I have heard the standard arguments for guns many times over.... I get the feeling that many Americans just don't really get where people from outside America are coming from in terms of their attitudes about guns. It's not like there aren't any guns in other countries and it's not like they aren't used for sport in those countries, and still no other countries have the same problems. It's all about the American gun culture/fetish. It's like something that is way deep under the skin of Americans... it's something that leads so many more Americans to turn to their guns to solve problems compared to other nationalities, it leads to a way more cavalier attitude about them, causing so many more accidents with firearms, etc.

    I mean, shit...




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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    blackhawks said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    I've got a grip, no need to name call.
    No you don't or you wouldn't have made assumptions of me.  I don't think anyone appreciates that FYI.  
    I didn't make any assumptions about you.
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    blackhawks said:
    Out of curiosity....anyone ever read papers like Manchester Evening News and see the brutality of murders there?  Without guns?  I am just looking for MU info and I have to go to the front page and there is daily, some brutal stabbing, baseball bat, etc. murder there.  So yes you can stop gun murders by taking guns but you are not going to stop people from killing.  Just like you are not going to stop mass killings if they want to drive a truck through a crowd.  You cannot legislate everything.
    Sure, people can be injured or killed by other things than guns. The murder rate in the UK is still lower than that in the USA. No one is saying that people aren’t killed in other parts of the world. The USA still stands head and shoulders above the rest of the western democratic nations, though, and most other places too. 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Jim Jefferies -- Gun Control (Part 1) from BARE -- Netflix Special

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rR9IaXH1M0&list=PL8cgy8dae0sjW5pfWffuLr658QRubgfzS

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    Mass shooting in Jacksonville. Time for more thoughts and prayers 
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Someone must have been out for a walk with his gun that he needed for protection, then the cracker slipped off the cheese and decided people shouldn't have fun at a Madden 19 tournament...
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  • tbergs
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    Florida - You need help! What is going on in that state?
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Mass shooting at Jacksonville, Fl. video game tournament, multiple fatalities: Sheriff

    https://globalnews.ca/news/4410419/mass-shooting-jacksonville-video-game-event/?utm_medium=Facebook&utm_source=GlobalNews

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,262
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
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  • cincybearcat
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    Yup. I can not believe someone killed people and no himself over a freakin Madden game
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  • unsung
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    He isn't white.  
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited August 2018
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    Yup. I can not believe someone killed people and no himself over a freakin Madden game
    Didn’t get his participation trophy for losing I’m guessing...
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    He isn't white.  
    Come again?

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/26/us/jacksonville-madden-shooting/index.html
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  • mcgruff10
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    edited August 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    Tell me again why this matters if it doesn't matter than an illegal immigrant killed a 20 year old jogger in iowa.  Why do you  need to constantly point out that white male used a gun in an illegal way? what are you trying to prove?  where's all the shootings from chicago?
    can you scan the news like you every day and highlight every black shooter?  or maybe every illegal immigrant who is a shooter? how about every asian?  Maybe people who are native american?   please be fair and balanced when you identify these shooters.  
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  • unsung
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    He isn't white.  
    Come again?

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/26/us/jacksonville-madden-shooting/index.html
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    He isn't white.  
    Come again?

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/26/us/jacksonville-madden-shooting/index.html
    Where'd I lose ya?
    You’re claiming he’s not a white male. NBC news and CNN are reporting that he is as did the sheriff’s office at their press conference that NBC covered. Do you have a source saying otherwise? If so, link it please.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mcgruff10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Shooter was reportedly a player who just a game. Just another responsible gun owner until he wasn’t bringing his piece to a video game tournament. Guess we have to arm all gamers now.

    And another white male.
    Tell me again why this matters if it doesn't matter than an illegal immigrant killed a 20 year old jogger in iowa.  Why do you  need to constantly point out that white male used a gun in an illegal way? what are you trying to prove?  where's all the shootings from chicago?
    can you scan the news like you every day and highlight every black shooter?  or maybe every illegal immigrant who is a shooter? how about every asian?  Maybe people who are native american?   please be fair and balanced when you identify these shooters.  
    Another poster pointed out previously that we have more to fear from males, 18-24, and white ones at that, if you want to drill down. I think it was in the Mollie Tibbetts thread. Seeing how that perp’s immigration status was brought into it. I wonder if this guy was a legal, “responsible” gun owner until he wasn’t?
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