Video captures terrifying fall as girl pushed from 60-foot bridge in Washington state

brianlux said:

Stupid all around.  Why was the girl standing in the other side of the rail in the first place.  The guy who shoved her was definitely wrong and should be charged as an adult, the the girl was also in the wrong. Even a planned jump into water at 60 feet is not safe.  That's about twice the height of a high dive board.  The kid was chancing getting a Darwin Award. 

brianlux said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

brianlux said:

Stupid all around.  Why was the girl standing in the other side of the rail in the first place.  The guy who shoved her was definitely wrong and should be charged as an adult, the the girl was also in the wrong. Even a planned jump into water at 60 feet is not safe.  That's about twice the height of a high dive board.  The kid was chancing getting a Darwin Award. 

I think the 'guy' that pushed her was a 'girl'.

I know why you made the mistake: it typically is some idiot guy doing something stupid like this and she flashed briefly in and out of the video screen with only her burly arm.

I'm curious to know what the people on the bridge did afterwards? It would take a lot not to do anything. I'd have been really tempted to put her in a headlock and give her a wedgie.

Dumb. Just dumb.

I hope the kids reacted strongly.  If not, I would find this disturbing the way I found the Marcy Renee Conrad killing in 1981-  the killing the disturbing movie River's Edge was based on. 

There was big concern when this came out  that teens were beginning to develop a lack of moral boundaries.  One year when I was subbing a high school gym class (not my thing but I needed any job I could get) I was reffing a basketball game and an errant pass caught me in the eye and I went down hard.  Not one kid stopped to see if I was OK (I was not, I had a scratched cornea).  They just kept playing like I wasn't there. 

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Stupid all around.  Why was the girl standing in the other side of the rail in the first place.  The guy who shoved her was definitely wrong and should be charged as an adult, the the girl was also in the wrong. Even a planned jump into water at 60 feet is not safe.  That's about twice the height of a high dive board.  The kid was chancing getting a Darwin Award. 

I agree ... but at one point the girl said no ... indicating to me common sense was setting in.

True, perhaps, but just putting herself in that position indicates a serious lack of common sense.  I've jumped from about 40 feet (about 12.2 meters) into water.  Even that was foolish.  It was scary, and the impact was hard.  Add 50% more distance to that and you asking for trouble.

I don't care if someone decides they want to jump from a bridge into water at all. That is their choice to make, and a lot of people do it for fun. Cliff jumping is an age old form of entertainment for many, and this is no different. I don't think there is any blame whatsoever to be laying on the girl in this case. She was thinking about trying it, but decided against it. Then an idiot came along and shoved her off against her will, which caused her to belly flop when she landed, because she wasn't prepared, and that is why she got injured. That is ALL on him, not her.

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Stupid all around.  Why was the girl standing in the other side of the rail in the first place.  The guy who shoved her was definitely wrong and should be charged as an adult, the the girl was also in the wrong. Even a planned jump into water at 60 feet is not safe.  That's about twice the height of a high dive board.  The kid was chancing getting a Darwin Award. 

I agree ... but at one point the girl said no ... indicating to me common sense was setting in.

True, perhaps, but just putting herself in that position indicates a serious lack of common sense.  I've jumped from about 40 feet (about 12.2 meters) into water.  Even that was foolish.  It was scary, and the impact was hard.  Add 50% more distance to that and you asking for trouble.

I don't care if someone decides they want to jump into water from a tall height. That is their choice to make, and a lot of people do it for fun. Cliff jumping is an age old form of entertainment for many, and this is no different. I don't think there is any blame whatsoever to be laying on the girl in this case. She was thinking about trying it, but decided against it because it's scary (I'd chicken out too!). Then an idiot came along and shoved her off against her will and when she wasn't expecting it, which caused her to belly flop when she landed because she wasn't prepared, and that is why she got injured. Other people were jumping and were just fine because they were prepared for it and hit the water in the proper position. This is ALL on him, not her. There's no reason to victim shame in this case IMO. (Thirty, you think it was a girl who pushed? The article I read about it actually said it was a guy...)

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Stupid all around.  Why was the girl standing in the other side of the rail in the first place.  The guy who shoved her was definitely wrong and should be charged as an adult, the the girl was also in the wrong. Even a planned jump into water at 60 feet is not safe.  That's about twice the height of a high dive board.  The kid was chancing getting a Darwin Award. 

I agree ... but at one point the girl said no ... indicating to me common sense was setting in.

True, perhaps, but just putting herself in that position indicates a serious lack of common sense.  I've jumped from about 40 feet (about 12.2 meters) into water.  Even that was foolish.  It was scary, and the impact was hard.  Add 50% more distance to that and you asking for trouble.

I don't care if someone decides they want to jump from a bridge into water at all. That is their choice to make, and a lot of people do it for fun. Cliff jumping is an age old form of entertainment for many, and this is no different. I don't think there is any blame whatsoever to be laying on the girl in this case. She was thinking about trying it, but decided against it. Then an idiot came along and shoved her off against her will, which caused her to belly flop when she landed, because she wasn't prepared, and that is why she got injured. That is ALL on him, not her.

Again... this was not a 'him'. It was a 'her' that pushed this girl.

And I agree with you: all blame for this lies directly in the pusher. It isn't super wise to attempt these jumps and someone might not be able to understand this until they face the moment (finally seeing the situation for what it is).

Stepping out on to the platform is one thing. Making the decision to jump is another.

Yeah, I edited my post to ask you about that. I actually read an article yesterday that specifically said it was a guy. That's changed?

I watched the video and they spoke about a girl who was regretting pushing her.

Maybe I'm on glue?

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Meltdown99 said:

brianlux said:

Stupid all around.  Why was the girl standing in the other side of the rail in the first place.  The guy who shoved her was definitely wrong and should be charged as an adult, the the girl was also in the wrong. Even a planned jump into water at 60 feet is not safe.  That's about twice the height of a high dive board.  The kid was chancing getting a Darwin Award. 

I agree ... but at one point the girl said no ... indicating to me common sense was setting in.

True, perhaps, but just putting herself in that position indicates a serious lack of common sense.  I've jumped from about 40 feet (about 12.2 meters) into water.  Even that was foolish.  It was scary, and the impact was hard.  Add 50% more distance to that and you asking for trouble.

I don't care if someone decides they want to jump into water from a tall height. That is their choice to make, and a lot of people do it for fun. Cliff jumping is an age old form of entertainment for many, and this is no different. I don't think there is any blame whatsoever to be laying on the girl in this case. She was thinking about trying it, but decided against it because it's scary (I'd chicken out too!). Then an idiot came along and shoved her off against her will and when she wasn't expecting it, which caused her to belly flop when she landed because she wasn't prepared, and that is why she got injured. Other people were jumping and were just fine because they were prepared for it and hit the water in the proper position. This is ALL on him, not her. There's no reason to victim shame in this case IMO. (Thirty, you think it was a girl who pushed? The article I read about it actually said it was a guy...)

I'm arguing that she was partially to blame the way a parent would.  I've never been a parent but I like kids and I have a soft spot for teens- what a tough time of life!  So yeah, I would hit her with some tough love because I dodn't like seeing kids get hurt.  I would chew her ass out and then tell her that's because I care, because I want her to learn some good decision making skills and because I don't want her to get hurt.