America's Gun Violence

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978

    A federal judge issued a temporary restraining order to stop release of blueprints for 3-D printed plastic guns


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/07/31/a-federal-judge-issued-a-temporary-restraining-order-to-stop-release-of-blueprints-for-3-d-printed-plastic-guns/?utm_term=.22a82f933e89&wpisrc=al_news__alert-national&wpmk=1


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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    PJ_Soul said:

    A federal judge issued a temporary restraining order to stop release of blueprints for 3-D printed plastic guns


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/national/wp/2018/07/31/a-federal-judge-issued-a-temporary-restraining-order-to-stop-release-of-blueprints-for-3-d-printed-plastic-guns/?utm_term=.22a82f933e89&wpisrc=al_news__alert-national&wpmk=1


    That was quick. Washington State's Attorney General, Bob Ferguson, who is always happy to sue the tRUmp administration, just filed this suit yesterday. He's got a pretty good batting average against tRUmp.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,420
    My guess is that anyone with the technical expertise to build a functional 3-D gun and wants to build one probably already has access to the designs through the dark web.  All this does is increase the chance of dimwits turning their hand into a Jason Pierre-Paul meatball claw when the thing blows up in their face.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    edited August 2018
    Jason P said:
    My guess is that anyone with the technical expertise to build a functional 3-D gun and wants to build one probably already has access to the designs through the dark web.  All this does is increase the chance of dimwits turning their hand into a Jason Pierre-Paul meatball claw when the thing blows up in their face.
    Do people need technical expertise for this?? I'm under the impression that they do not at all, and that's why the "blueprints" are so dangerous. They just need to know how to use a 3D printer and follow instructions well, no?
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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Are people scared?? I'm getting the impression that they are simply concerned about the potential problems this could cause in the context of illegal weapons, which is completely reasonable.
    What truly amazed me is how so many people are scared about having their guns taken away from them and how concerned so many people are about the preservation of the white race. Shocking.
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  • unsung
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    I know, right?
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,975
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Have you seen the pro-gun crowd? The only thing lower than collective IQ is the total number of teeth.

    so anything that makes it easy for these idiots to have a device designed to kill and that can avoid detection is a concern of mine. Cause it means they have to think less. The good news is these idiots don’t make enough to buy a 3d printer....but if they get together and put their $ together, we all have a lot to worry about.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    unsung said:
    I am amazed how this has so many people scared.
    Says the guy who takes a gun everywhere he goes and fears elimination of the white race.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    And yes, yes they should, minimum 10 years. Lock up those "responsible" gun owners.

    After every campus rampage, there is heated debate about how to curb the violence. But if kids did not have access to guns, a Post analysis found, two-thirds of school shootings since Columbine could not have happened. In Kentucky, where a teen is accused of killing two classmates with a gun from home, a prosecutor is weighing his own approach: “I’m seriously thinking about going after the stepfather.”
    • Story by John Woodrow Cox and Steven Rich | Illustration by Federico Yankelevic

    ‘The gun’s not in the closet’

    Since 1999, children have committed at least 145 school shootings. Among the 105 cases in which the weapon’s source was identified, 80 percent were taken from the child’s home or those of relatives or friends.

    Yet The Washington Post found that just four adults have been convicted for failing to lock up the guns used.

    Now, after a deadly school shooting in Kentucky, a prosecutor must decide: Should the parent who owned the weapon be charged?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/01/feature/school-shootings-should-parents-be-charged-for-failing-to-lock-up-guns-used-by-their-kids/?utm_term=.be58fa147b5a

    Since 1999, the shooters in at least 145 acts of gun violence at primary and secondary schools have been under the age of 18, according to an analysis by The Washington Post. Discussions about how to curb shootings at American schools have centered on arming teachers or improving mental health treatment, banning military-style rifles or strengthening background checks. But if kids as young as 6 did not have access to guns, The Post’s findings show, two-thirds of school shootings over the past two decades could not have happened.

    While investigators don’t always determine — or publicly reveal — the weapons’ origins, The Post found 105 cases in which the source was identified. Of those, the guns were taken from a child’s home or those of relatives or friends 84 times. The Post discovered just four instances when the adult owners of the weapons were criminally punished because they failed to lock them up.

    Only 14 states and the District have approved such laws, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, but even those statutes, researchers say, are often not enforced, are too limited or carry weak penalties, rendering them ineffective.

    The issue drew national attention in May after a 17-year-old in Santa Fe, Texas, was accused of killing 10 people at his school with a handgun and a shotgun that belonged to his dad. Although the state has a negligent-storage law, the father could not be charged under it because Texas defines a child as 16 or younger.

    Nothing can be done.


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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,221
    Yes. Charge those people who don't properly store firearms. 

    It really isn't that difficult. 

    Something can be done. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And yes, yes they should, minimum 10 years. Lock up those "responsible" gun owners.

    After every campus rampage, there is heated debate about how to curb the violence. But if kids did not have access to guns, a Post analysis found, two-thirds of school shootings since Columbine could not have happened. In Kentucky, where a teen is accused of killing two classmates with a gun from home, a prosecutor is weighing his own approach: “I’m seriously thinking about going after the stepfather.”
    • Story by John Woodrow Cox and Steven Rich | Illustration by Federico Yankelevic

    ‘The gun’s not in the closet’

    Since 1999, children have committed at least 145 school shootings. Among the 105 cases in which the weapon’s source was identified, 80 percent were taken from the child’s home or those of relatives or friends.

    Yet The Washington Post found that just four adults have been convicted for failing to lock up the guns used.

    Now, after a deadly school shooting in Kentucky, a prosecutor must decide: Should the parent who owned the weapon be charged?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/08/01/feature/school-shootings-should-parents-be-charged-for-failing-to-lock-up-guns-used-by-their-kids/?utm_term=.be58fa147b5a

    Since 1999, the shooters in at least 145 acts of gun violence at primary and secondary schools have been under the age of 18, according to an analysis by The Washington Post. Discussions about how to curb shootings at American schools have centered on arming teachers or improving mental health treatment, banning military-style rifles or strengthening background checks. But if kids as young as 6 did not have access to guns, The Post’s findings show, two-thirds of school shootings over the past two decades could not have happened.

    While investigators don’t always determine — or publicly reveal — the weapons’ origins, The Post found 105 cases in which the source was identified. Of those, the guns were taken from a child’s home or those of relatives or friends 84 times. The Post discovered just four instances when the adult owners of the weapons were criminally punished because they failed to lock them up.

    Only 14 states and the District have approved such laws, according to the Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence, but even those statutes, researchers say, are often not enforced, are too limited or carry weak penalties, rendering them ineffective.

    The issue drew national attention in May after a 17-year-old in Santa Fe, Texas, was accused of killing 10 people at his school with a handgun and a shotgun that belonged to his dad. Although the state has a negligent-storage law, the father could not be charged under it because Texas defines a child as 16 or younger.

    Nothing can be done.


    Yes. If a gun owner is negligent in handling or storage and that negligence results in injury or death, they should be held liable criminally and not just civilly. Knowing that you might face a hefty prison term if your child or other family member misused your gun might cause a shift with some of those who so far feel free to leave loaded weapons around. 
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  • Meltdown99
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    Meltdown99 said:
    For when you want to shoot the alligator lurking by your ball on the edge ot the water hazard or to blast the ball out of the sky as its about to land on the green. Or maybe to encourage swifter play? Or keep people from hitting up on you?
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    For when you want to shoot the alligator lurking by your ball on the edge ot the water hazard or to blast the ball out of the sky as its about to land on the green. Or maybe to encourage swifter play? Or keep people from hitting up on you?
     :)  I like the blasting the gator ... 

    Maybe to shoot your opponents ball...

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  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    This is great. 


  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    unsung said:
    This is great. 


    A one shot shooter is the only type of 3D printed gun? Another stupid false analogy meme posted. Yet again.
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  • unsung
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    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,978
    edited August 2018
    unsung said:
    Oh, now you are a gun expert, lol.
    Lol, no, but I think most of us who still have clear minds have become experts in identifying ridiculous false equivalencies, lol. Practice makes perfect!

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