America's Gun Violence

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Soft on crime
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,192
    No way these 3D firearms will endure more than a few rounds. I wouldn’t trust one. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited July 2018
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    It's on the internet ... it's just a matter of time and they'll be downloadable for anyone with internet connectivity...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    edited July 2018
    Yeah, there will almost certainly come a time in the not-that-distant future when pretty much everyone has a 3D printer in their homes .... Hopefully by then they will have figured out how to build 3D printers that simply will not print guns, and that can be worked into law. Like I mentioned before, one would think some kind of built-in software can be devised for this purpose and foil all but the proficient hackers.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    mcgruff10 said:
    No way these 3D firearms will endure more than a few rounds. I wouldn’t trust one. 
    I like all of the speculative non condemnation of these guns. Even if what you stated is true, they'll figure it out and improve them. Either way, two rounds is still two dead people more then zero rounds.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    No way these 3D firearms will endure more than a few rounds. I wouldn’t trust one. 
    I like all of the speculative non condemnation of these guns. Even if what you stated is true, they'll figure it out and improve them. Either way, two rounds is still two dead people more then zero rounds.
    Exactly, and it seems that most aren't aware that many different materials can be used in 3D printing. It's not like they only make things out of weak plastic.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    3D printed guns are just another reminder of why we can't have nice things.
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  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    PJ_Soul said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    No way these 3D firearms will endure more than a few rounds. I wouldn’t trust one. 
    I like all of the speculative non condemnation of these guns. Even if what you stated is true, they'll figure it out and improve them. Either way, two rounds is still two dead people more then zero rounds.
    Exactly, and it seems that most aren't aware that many different materials can be used in 3D printing. It's not like they only make things out of weak plastic.
    I also remember a time when Glocks were made fun of for being too "plastic". They seem to be doing pretty well in the killing department these days.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    mcgruff10 said:
    No way these 3D firearms will endure more than a few rounds. I wouldn’t trust one. 
    Also, you're not the target audience of these printers, yet. I'm sure more appealable options for you will come along, but ultimately they know who they need to cater these to and will follow suit with the ability to replicate classic assault rifles.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,192
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    No way these 3D firearms will endure more than a few rounds. I wouldn’t trust one. 
    Also, you're not the target audience of these printers, yet. I'm sure more appealable options for you will come along, but ultimately they know who they need to cater these to and will follow suit with the ability to replicate classic assault rifles.
    Very true bud. Scary shit. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    edited July 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
    Of course not. He just lives in a country that doesn't suffer from a crazy gun culture.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,192
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
    Of course not. He just lives in a country that doesn't suffer from a crazy gun culture.
    Like anything else when it becomes first available it will be cool but I see people losing interest in it very quickly.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,130
    Watch that gun deaths number go up now. MAGA.

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited July 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
    No.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
    Of course not. He just lives in a country that doesn't suffer from a crazy gun culture.
    Like anything else when it becomes first available it will be cool but I see people losing interest in it very quickly.  
    I mean, when you can get an AR15 with your happy meal... why the need to 3D print a gun.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,192
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
    Of course not. He just lives in a country that doesn't suffer from a crazy gun culture.
    Like anything else when it becomes first available it will be cool but I see people losing interest in it very quickly.  
    I mean, when you can get an AR15 with your happy meal... why the need to 3D print a gun.
      When I got my kid a happy meal the other day he got an Incredibles toy; I didn't realize they handed AR-15's with Happy Meals in Sweden.  Sick!
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited July 2018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
    Of course not. He just lives in a country that doesn't suffer from a crazy gun culture.
    Like anything else when it becomes first available it will be cool but I see people losing interest in it very quickly.  
    I mean, when you can get an AR15 with your happy meal... why the need to 3D print a gun.
    Seriously, the only places I can see 3D printed guns being an issue are places where it is difficult to get them otherwise.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Lucky to live in a country where I don't have to think about 3D firearms being a big threat.
    Are 3D printers or the internet banned where you live?  
    Of course not. He just lives in a country that doesn't suffer from a crazy gun culture.
    Like anything else when it becomes first available it will be cool but I see people losing interest in it very quickly.  
    I mean, when you can get an AR15 with your happy meal... why the need to 3D print a gun.
    Seriously, the only places I can see 3D printed guns bring an issue are places where it is difficult to get them otherwise.
    I think you might be underestimating the appeal here, even when "real" guns are easy to get. It will likely be a hell of a lot cheaper to print them than buy them, it won't require the person to deal with any bureaucracy or anything, it's simply a novelty and actually fun to make your own, people will be able to alter them/"personalize" them, creativity will become a factor for hobbyists, and, of course, criminals and others who can't get a gun through legal channels will be all over it, especially if they make the ones that don't set off metal detectors. There are a ton of reasons why 3D printed guns will be an issue in places they are relatively easy to get "the old fashioned way".
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