2018 Year of the Woman

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cincybearcat said:
    my2hands said:
    How many women are in the Senate? Congress? Governors?

    Yeah, I'll likely be voting for only women for the rest of my life, except for special circumstances 
    I won’t be making gender the deciding factor in my vote.
    I questioned that in my opening statement.

    If the candidate is a woman and the best then by all means vote for them. 
    They say men are from Mars, Women are form Venus, the point being that men and women think differently.  I think that's a pretty fair and true generalization.  That being said, if two candidates were running for office, one a man and one a woman, and they were evenly matched in qualifications, I would vote for the woman because I would like to see how things would run in a  more predominately female run government. I doubt they could screw things up worse than men have, but maybe.  Let's find out.

    It's also worth noting that there are a lot of women out there that I would not want to see represent The Year of the Woman.  Like, for example, the woman in the Facebook video on a bus wearing sunglasses and screaming at the Hispanics, spewing all kinds of racist B.S.  Or the likes of Sarah Palin.  No, let's not go there.
    I certainly want more women in government.  However, if you think a predominantly female government would run better just because they are women, you are nuts.  #1 They are humans first...it would end up being very similar.  #2 Have you ever been around a bunch of Dance moms, soccer moms, etc?  The gossip is amazing.  And the grudges....lifetime. ;)
    a) I am nuts, regardless, but you knew that already, Cincy. :wink:
    b)  I really don't know how different a female dominated government would differ from our current male dominant set up but I would be happy to find out.
    c)  As for gossiping Mom's- women, like men, come in all types.  I know the gossipy soccer mom type only too well and I don't find they best represent their gender any more than your typical macho male chauvinist represents our gender well.  But a Senate full of classy, bright, tough women like Elizabeth Warren... oh yeah!  Now that would be something great!

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Meltdown99 said:
    I want more First Nation people's in government.  They were here first and have very little say.  I would say First Nation people are treated the worst by government and her citizens..
    Totally agree.  Right on!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    Maybe not!
    "between 1480 and 1913, Europe’s queens were 27% more likely than its kings to wage war"

    "European queenly reigns from 1480 to 1913 and found a 27 percent increase in wars when a queen was in power, as compared to the reign of a king."




    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,101
    brianlux said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    Maybe not!
    "between 1480 and 1913, Europe’s queens were 27% more likely than its kings to wage war"

    "European queenly reigns from 1480 to 1913 and found a 27 percent increase in wars when a queen was in power, as compared to the reign of a king."




    Cool info as always...
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    my2hands said:
    Who said anything about "all women"? The sad truth is it's been all men for a long time, and it's time for equal representation. We need balance, I will be using my votes to help achieve that balance
    You did...

    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    No. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962

    brianlux said:
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    tempo_n_groove said:
    cincybearcat said:
    my2hands said:
    How many women are in the Senate? Congress? Governors?

    Yeah, I'll likely be voting for only women for the rest of my life, except for special circumstances 
    I won’t be making gender the deciding factor in my vote.
    I questioned that in my opening statement.

    If the candidate is a woman and the best then by all means vote for them. 
    They say men are from Mars, Women are form Venus, the point being that men and women think differently.  I think that's a pretty fair and true generalization.  That being said, if two candidates were running for office, one a man and one a woman, and they were evenly matched in qualifications, I would vote for the woman because I would like to see how things would run in a  more predominately female run government. I doubt they could screw things up worse than men have, but maybe.  Let's find out.

    It's also worth noting that there are a lot of women out there that I would not want to see represent The Year of the Woman.  Like, for example, the woman in the Facebook video on a bus wearing sunglasses and screaming at the Hispanics, spewing all kinds of racist B.S.  Or the likes of Sarah Palin.  No, let's not go there.
    I certainly want more women in government.  However, if you think a predominantly female government would run better just because they are women, you are nuts.  #1 They are humans first...it would end up being very similar.  #2 Have you ever been around a bunch of Dance moms, soccer moms, etc?  The gossip is amazing.  And the grudges....lifetime. ;)
    a) I am nuts, regardless, but you knew that already, Cincy. :wink:
    b)  I really don't know how different a female dominated government would differ from our current male dominant set up but I would be happy to find out.
    c)  As for gossiping Mom's- women, like men, come in all types.  I know the gossipy soccer mom type only too well and I don't find they best represent their gender any more than your typical macho male chauvinist represents our gender well.  But a Senate full of classy, bright, tough women like Elizabeth Warren... oh yeah!  Now that would be something great!

    1) ;)

    as for the other... I have a 10 year old girl that dances. Making a joke based on personal experience :)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    cincybearcat said:
    my2hands said:
    Who said anything about "all women"? The sad truth is it's been all men for a long time, and it's time for equal representation. We need balance, I will be using my votes to help achieve that balance
    You did...

    I said I would vote for only women, not that only women should govern. My vote is to help balance out a massive divide in representation. Once it reached 50/50 or so, I would see no need to only vote for women
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    brianlux said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    Maybe not!
    "between 1480 and 1913, Europe’s queens were 27% more likely than its kings to wage war"

    "European queenly reigns from 1480 to 1913 and found a 27 percent increase in wars when a queen was in power, as compared to the reign of a king."




    Very interesting. Who would've thought.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.
    Just thought that because they are less aggressive than men we would have no wars.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.

    So, just to be totally clear - you're saying that every single politician is corrupt?
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.

    So, just to be totally clear - you're saying that every single politician is corrupt?
    Any body who can vote themselves a raise in a job that is supported by taxpayers are corrupt, that also applies to raising taxes.  Politicians salaries and taxes should be voted on by direct democracy...maybe you need to be reminded we ARE the  employer, not the fucking politicians...these corrupt bastards need to ask the people more often.  And don't kid yourself these politicians are laughing at you all the way to the bank ...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.

    So, just to be totally clear - you're saying that every single politician is corrupt?
    Any body who can vote themselves a raise in a job that is supported by taxpayers are corrupt, that also applies to raising taxes.  Politicians salaries and taxes should be voted on by direct democracy...maybe you need to be reminded we ARE the  employer, not the fucking politicians...these corrupt bastards need to ask the people more often.  And don't kid yourself these politicians are laughing at you all the way to the bank ...
    I think what you're saying, Meltdown, generally is true although I would say that, because there are over a half million elected officials in the U.S., I would think there have to be some politicians that are not corrupt.

    But then follow my logic and tell me where it fails:  A great many people believe politicians are corrupt and yet they go out and vote these corrupt people into office.  If we are the employer, and we are hiring these officials by voting them in, then is it not the responsibility of the voting public that we have corrupt politicians?  And we keep doing this over and over again.  We must be really fucking stupid employers!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.

    So, just to be totally clear - you're saying that every single politician is corrupt?
    Any body who can vote themselves a raise in a job that is supported by taxpayers are corrupt, that also applies to raising taxes.  Politicians salaries and taxes should be voted on by direct democracy...maybe you need to be reminded we ARE the  employer, not the fucking politicians...these corrupt bastards need to ask the people more often.  And don't kid yourself these politicians are laughing at you all the way to the bank ...
    I think what you're saying, Meltdown, generally is true although I would say that, because there are over a half million elected officials in the U.S., I would think there have to be some politicians that are not corrupt.

    But then follow my logic and tell me where it fails:  A great many people believe politicians are corrupt and yet they go out and vote these corrupt people into office.  If we are the employer, and we are hiring these officials by voting them in, then is it not the responsibility of the voting public that we have corrupt politicians?  And we keep doing this over and over again.  We must be really fucking stupid employers!
    I'm just not feeling it...I am really not, government no longer works for the people...but thats just me, I'm very cynical ... I spent 25 years in maintenance at a school board ... trust me, there are efficiencies to be had ... one school they spent over 5 million in new plumbing and heating system only to close the school 3 years later, old schools don't sell well ... this shit is common with government.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,778
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.

    So, just to be totally clear - you're saying that every single politician is corrupt?
    Any body who can vote themselves a raise in a job that is supported by taxpayers are corrupt, that also applies to raising taxes.  Politicians salaries and taxes should be voted on by direct democracy...maybe you need to be reminded we ARE the  employer, not the fucking politicians...these corrupt bastards need to ask the people more often.  And don't kid yourself these politicians are laughing at you all the way to the bank ...
    I think what you're saying, Meltdown, generally is true although I would say that, because there are over a half million elected officials in the U.S., I would think there have to be some politicians that are not corrupt.

    But then follow my logic and tell me where it fails:  A great many people believe politicians are corrupt and yet they go out and vote these corrupt people into office.  If we are the employer, and we are hiring these officials by voting them in, then is it not the responsibility of the voting public that we have corrupt politicians?  And we keep doing this over and over again.  We must be really fucking stupid employers!
    I'm just not feeling it...I am really not, government no longer works for the people...but thats just me, I'm very cynical ... I spent 25 years in maintenance at a school board ... trust me, there are efficiencies to be had ... one school they spent over 5 million in new plumbing and heating system only to close the school 3 years later, old schools don't sell well ... this shit is common with government.
    Undoubtedly.  Pretty sad.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Made me think of:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    brianlux said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.

    So, just to be totally clear - you're saying that every single politician is corrupt?
    Any body who can vote themselves a raise in a job that is supported by taxpayers are corrupt, that also applies to raising taxes.  Politicians salaries and taxes should be voted on by direct democracy...maybe you need to be reminded we ARE the  employer, not the fucking politicians...these corrupt bastards need to ask the people more often.  And don't kid yourself these politicians are laughing at you all the way to the bank ...
    I think what you're saying, Meltdown, generally is true although I would say that, because there are over a half million elected officials in the U.S., I would think there have to be some politicians that are not corrupt.

    But then follow my logic and tell me where it fails:  A great many people believe politicians are corrupt and yet they go out and vote these corrupt people into office.  If we are the employer, and we are hiring these officials by voting them in, then is it not the responsibility of the voting public that we have corrupt politicians?  And we keep doing this over and over again.  We must be really fucking stupid employers!
    I'm just not feeling it...I am really not, government no longer works for the people...but thats just me, I'm very cynical ... I spent 25 years in maintenance at a school board ... trust me, there are efficiencies to be had ... one school they spent over 5 million in new plumbing and heating system only to close the school 3 years later, old schools don't sell well ... this shit is common with government.
    Undoubtedly.  Pretty sad.
    Brian, that was just one example of poor fiscal responsibilities...I could write a book of wasted money.  One school, the principle spent in the thousands for cable for the weight room ... only to cancel cable a year later.  It's ridiculous.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Meltdown99 said:
    oftenreading said:
    Meltdown99 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    If more world leaders were female would there be no wars?
    ... woman politicians are just as evil and corrupt as men ... just entering politicians means you support corruption.

    So, just to be totally clear - you're saying that every single politician is corrupt?
    Any body who can vote themselves a raise in a job that is supported by taxpayers are corrupt, that also applies to raising taxes.  Politicians salaries and taxes should be voted on by direct democracy...maybe you need to be reminded we ARE the  employer, not the fucking politicians...these corrupt bastards need to ask the people more often.  And don't kid yourself these politicians are laughing at you all the way to the bank ...

    That's absurd. I have several family members and friends who are/have been in municipal and provincial politics and I know how hard they have worked, seven days a week, for pay that isn't as much as they would get in the private sector, accepting totally unreasonable expectations and comments from people like you. Of course some politicians are corrupt; not all. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf

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