Are there B-Sides from Avocado, BS & LB?

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  • pleatherman
    pleatherman Posts: 472
    edited June 2018
    Well, here is Ed's response when questioned about leftover Backspacer tracks.  "Yeah, I don't think we're going to whore them out as B-sides (laughs)."  
    There was initial talk about an EP released six months after Backspacer, comprised of at least four songs from those sessions.  That may have included Pendulum (notice Tom Tomorrow's reference in the cover art) and a completed nine-minute version Of the Earth.

    About a year before 'Avocado's' release, Jeff revealed they had 25 songs written.  But don't mistake that number with "completed " songs.  In the same article and another from that time period, the title '2x4' was singled out for possible inclusion.

    After the first go-around for recording their tenth album in 2011, they walked away with seven to eight songs.  According to Stone, upon revisiting the material, only five were deemed worthy for inclusion on what would be Lightning Bolt.  And here is one standout track McCready gave a brief description about in early 2013.  "Matt [Cameron] wrote a really cool one that’s kind of ethereal meets U2-ness,

    Probably multiple reasons a given song is left off an album.  On 'Lightning Bolt' and the 'no-titled' record, a popular one includes sacrificing the mid-tempo songs for more aggressive fast numbers.  At this rate, if we tally it all up, by the time no.11 is finished, they should at least have enough for a full album's worth of unreleased material!
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,721
    Well, here is Ed's response when questioned about leftover Backspacer tracks.  "Yeah, I don't think we're going to whore them out as B-sides (laughs)."  
    There was initial talk about an EP released six months after Backspacer, comprised of at least four songs from those sessions.  That may have included Pendulum (notice Tom Tomorrow's reference in the cover art) and a completed nine-minute version Of the Earth.

    About a year before 'Avocado's' release, Jeff revealed they had 25 songs written.  But don't mistake that number with "completed " songs.  In the same article and another from that time period, the title '2x4' was singled out for possible inclusion.

    After the first go-around for recording their tenth album in 2011, they walked away with seven to eight songs.  According to Stone, upon revisiting the material, only five were deemed worthy for inclusion on what would be Lightning Bolt.  And here is one standout track McCready gave a brief description about in early 2013.  "Matt [Cameron] wrote a really cool one that’s kind of ethereal meets U2-ness,

    Probably multiple reasons a given song is left off an album.  On 'Lightning Bolt' and the 'no-titled' record, a popular one includes sacrificing the mid-tempo songs for more aggressive fast numbers.  At this rate, if we tally it all up, by the time no.11 is finished, they should at least have enough for a full album's worth of unreleased material!
    interesting!
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  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,997
    Cold Confessions, Let It Ride, Of The Earth, and I’m Still Here need a proper studio release.  Throw in Out Of My Mind, Anything In Between, 2x4 and Armour and you one hell of a record 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,997
    Well, here is Ed's response when questioned about leftover Backspacer tracks.  "Yeah, I don't think we're going to whore them out as B-sides (laughs)."  
    There was initial talk about an EP released six months after Backspacer, comprised of at least four songs from those sessions.  That may have included Pendulum (notice Tom Tomorrow's reference in the cover art) and a completed nine-minute version Of the Earth.

    About a year before 'Avocado's' release, Jeff revealed they had 25 songs written.  But don't mistake that number with "completed " songs.  In the same article and another from that time period, the title '2x4' was singled out for possible inclusion.

    After the first go-around for recording their tenth album in 2011, they walked away with seven to eight songs.  According to Stone, upon revisiting the material, only five were deemed worthy for inclusion on what would be Lightning Bolt.  And here is one standout track McCready gave a brief description about in early 2013.  "Matt [Cameron] wrote a really cool one that’s kind of ethereal meets U2-ness,

    Probably multiple reasons a given song is left off an album.  On 'Lightning Bolt' and the 'no-titled' record, a popular one includes sacrificing the mid-tempo songs for more aggressive fast numbers.  At this rate, if we tally it all up, by the time no.11 is finished, they should at least have enough for a full album's worth of unreleased material!
    One of the backspacer outtakes was Swallowed Whole 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • thispureamericanriot
    thispureamericanriot California Posts: 514
    edited June 2018
    Hope after the next album (2019-2020???) they put out another Lost Dogs-type compilation of b-sides. I understand that many songs probably get cannibalized for parts on newer songs, something like Footsteps/Times Of Trouble. Please do like a "vault" style release through Ten Club perhaps? This reminds me of how prolific Springsteen has been (not releasing entire kick-ass albums), there's a whole alternate history of PJ out there!
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,902
    i remember Mike saying in an interview that they had some stuff left from Backspacer to release an EP. But that never happened. 
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  • pleatherman
    pleatherman Posts: 472
    D-Rod said:
    Well, here is Ed's response when questioned about leftover Backspacer tracks.  "Yeah, I don't think we're going to whore them out as B-sides (laughs)."  
    There was initial talk about an EP released six months after Backspacer, comprised of at least four songs from those sessions.  That may have included Pendulum (notice Tom Tomorrow's reference in the cover art) and a completed nine-minute version Of the Earth.

    About a year before 'Avocado's' release, Jeff revealed they had 25 songs written.  But don't mistake that number with "completed " songs.  In the same article and another from that time period, the title '2x4' was singled out for possible inclusion.

    After the first go-around for recording their tenth album in 2011, they walked away with seven to eight songs.  According to Stone, upon revisiting the material, only five were deemed worthy for inclusion on what would be Lightning Bolt.  And here is one standout track McCready gave a brief description about in early 2013.  "Matt [Cameron] wrote a really cool one that’s kind of ethereal meets U2-ness,

    Probably multiple reasons a given song is left off an album.  On 'Lightning Bolt' and the 'no-titled' record, a popular one includes sacrificing the mid-tempo songs for more aggressive fast numbers.  At this rate, if we tally it all up, by the time no.11 is finished, they should at least have enough for a full album's worth of unreleased material!
    One of the backspacer outtakes was Swallowed Whole 
    Oh, neat!
  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 769
    Let It Ride is one of my favorite songs. It breaks my heart that it seems to be a touchy subject with the band.
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  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    D-Rod said:
    Well, here is Ed's response when questioned about leftover Backspacer tracks.  "Yeah, I don't think we're going to whore them out as B-sides (laughs)."  
    There was initial talk about an EP released six months after Backspacer, comprised of at least four songs from those sessions.  That may have included Pendulum (notice Tom Tomorrow's reference in the cover art) and a completed nine-minute version Of the Earth.

    About a year before 'Avocado's' release, Jeff revealed they had 25 songs written.  But don't mistake that number with "completed " songs.  In the same article and another from that time period, the title '2x4' was singled out for possible inclusion.

    After the first go-around for recording their tenth album in 2011, they walked away with seven to eight songs.  According to Stone, upon revisiting the material, only five were deemed worthy for inclusion on what would be Lightning Bolt.  And here is one standout track McCready gave a brief description about in early 2013.  "Matt [Cameron] wrote a really cool one that’s kind of ethereal meets U2-ness,

    Probably multiple reasons a given song is left off an album.  On 'Lightning Bolt' and the 'no-titled' record, a popular one includes sacrificing the mid-tempo songs for more aggressive fast numbers.  At this rate, if we tally it all up, by the time no.11 is finished, they should at least have enough for a full album's worth of unreleased material!
    One of the backspacer outtakes was Swallowed Whole 
    I know that Pendulum was, but this is the first I've heard of Swallowed Whole being from that period. Any more info?
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  • nuzzer1
    nuzzer1 New Jersey Posts: 1,437
    I’d like to see Puzzle and game get an official release too. I realize it’s earlier but man is that a gem...
  • nuzzer1 said:
    I’d like to see Puzzle and game get an official release too. I realize it’s earlier but man is that a gem...
    Puzzle and games is released. It’s Light Years 
  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 769
    Yeah, Puzzle and Games is an early version of Light Years. Can't complain about how that one turned out. Well, I guess someone could, but they'd be wrong.
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  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    I’ve always dug Puzzles more than Light Years
  • thispureamericanriot
    thispureamericanriot California Posts: 514
    nuzzer1 said:
    I’d like to see Puzzle and game get an official release too. I realize it’s earlier but man is that a gem...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yAEoLzuklw
  • nuzzer1
    nuzzer1 New Jersey Posts: 1,437
    Mike D88 said:
    Yeah, Puzzle and Games is an early version of Light Years. Can't complain about how that one turned out. Well, I guess someone could, but they'd be wrong.
    I'm aware :blush: - but to @cp3iverson's point - I love the version and chorus is very different - would likely have never fit binaural though.