Something about teacher's pay...

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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    Wait, do I count that correctly - you have like 42 % income tax? 30.000/70.000 = 0,42. Or is my math off...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    Wait, do I count that correctly - you have like 42 % income tax? 30.000/70.000 = 0,42. Or is my math off...
    Union dues, health insurance, disability, federal/State taxes, 403b contributions (voluntary retirement. Like a 401k), family coverage tax, etc
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    Wait, do I count that correctly - you have like 42 % income tax? 30.000/70.000 = 0,42. Or is my math off...
    Union dues, health insurance, disability, federal/State taxes, 403b contributions (voluntary retirement. Like a 401k), family coverage tax, etc
    Hmm. Okey, well... over here we don't pay our union/unemployment insurance charges on our taxes. 

    But my friend, who's a teacher for 16-19 year olds (gymnasium) gets 37.000SEK a month ($4200). So thats $ 50.000 a year. But the income tax here is roughly 25% so that leaves him with $ 37.500. Then if you count the union-things I guess that's like $60 a months maybe... so a bit under $ 37.000 a year. Pretty similar in the end.

    Interesting.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,912
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    $70k and $73k for 9 months of work - that's pretty good if you ask me.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    Wait, do I count that correctly - you have like 42 % income tax? 30.000/70.000 = 0,42. Or is my math off...
    Union dues, health insurance, disability, federal/State taxes, 403b contributions (voluntary retirement. Like a 401k), family coverage tax, etc
    You're terribly under-paid McG.  I'm truly sorry to hear that.  :frowning:
    pjhawks said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    $70k and $73k for 9 months of work - that's pretty good if you ask me.
    I beg to differ.  First of all, it's more than 9 months.  We've been over that before.  It's not like the last bell of the year rings and you're done with work.  No way! And look at McG's take home after taxes, union fees, etc.  No way is he getting adequate compensation. 
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    pjhawks said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    $70k and $73k for 9 months of work - that's pretty good if you ask me.
    After 14 and 15 years of work? What is your profession and salary?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 
    There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    Wait, do I count that correctly - you have like 42 % income tax? 30.000/70.000 = 0,42. Or is my math off...
    Union dues, health insurance, disability, federal/State taxes, 403b contributions (voluntary retirement. Like a 401k), family coverage tax, etc
    Hmm. Okey, well... over here we don't pay our union/unemployment insurance charges on our taxes. 

    But my friend, who's a teacher for 16-19 year olds (gymnasium) gets 37.000SEK a month ($4200). So thats $ 50.000 a year. But the income tax here is roughly 25% so that leaves him with $ 37.500. Then if you count the union-things I guess that's like $60 a months maybe... so a bit under $ 37.000 a year. Pretty similar in the end.

    Interesting.
    Wait, so you’re saying that the total tax rate in Sweden is less than what the amaricans are paying? I’m assuming, so correct me if I’m wrong, that you aren’t paying extra for your health care or other such expenses? 

    This is interesting, given that one of the big arguments made in the US against socialized health care is that it would lead to massive tax increases.
     
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    Wait, do I count that correctly - you have like 42 % income tax? 30.000/70.000 = 0,42. Or is my math off...
    Union dues, health insurance, disability, federal/State taxes, 403b contributions (voluntary retirement. Like a 401k), family coverage tax, etc
    Hmm. Okey, well... over here we don't pay our union/unemployment insurance charges on our taxes. 

    But my friend, who's a teacher for 16-19 year olds (gymnasium) gets 37.000SEK a month ($4200). So thats $ 50.000 a year. But the income tax here is roughly 25% so that leaves him with $ 37.500. Then if you count the union-things I guess that's like $60 a months maybe... so a bit under $ 37.000 a year. Pretty similar in the end.

    Interesting.
    Wait, so you’re saying that the total tax rate in Sweden is less than what the amaricans are paying? I’m assuming, so correct me if I’m wrong, that you aren’t paying extra for your health care or other such expenses? 

    This is interesting, given that one of the big arguments made in the US against socialized health care is that it would lead to massive tax increases.
     
    Before we make any assumptions let My check my paycheck. I haven’t had a physical paycheck in years so I will check online when I get home. 

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited June 2018
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    And how much do you get "in your pocket" after taxes every year?
    Right around $40k.  just about $2,000 a pay....$4000/month x10 months.
    Wait, do I count that correctly - you have like 42 % income tax? 30.000/70.000 = 0,42. Or is my math off...
    Union dues, health insurance, disability, federal/State taxes, 403b contributions (voluntary retirement. Like a 401k), family coverage tax, etc
    Hmm. Okey, well... over here we don't pay our union/unemployment insurance charges on our taxes. 

    But my friend, who's a teacher for 16-19 year olds (gymnasium) gets 37.000SEK a month ($4200). So thats $ 50.000 a year. But the income tax here is roughly 25% so that leaves him with $ 37.500. Then if you count the union-things I guess that's like $60 a months maybe... so a bit under $ 37.000 a year. Pretty similar in the end.

    Interesting.
    Wait, so you’re saying that the total tax rate in Sweden is less than what the amaricans are paying? I’m assuming, so correct me if I’m wrong, that you aren’t paying extra for your health care or other such expenses? 

    This is interesting, given that one of the big arguments made in the US against socialized health care is that it would lead to massive tax increases.
     
    Yes. Roughly 25 % but it depends on where you live.

    And yes, we have tax paid healthcare, tax paid schools (including school lunches) etc.

    If you earn more than something like $50k a year you pay an extra 20 % (I think) on the amount being above that limit.

    But we also have 25% VAT on goods, 12% VAT on food and hotels and 6% VAT on newspapers/concerts/museums. Im guessing you have a lowers VAT on things. And in general lower prices.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 
    There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.
    Absolutely.  I d love for them to teach just one week and see if their opinion changes. If you suck these kids will eat you alive lol. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,416
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 
    There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.
    Absolutely.  I d love for them to teach just one week and see if their opinion changes. If you suck these kids will eat you alive lol. 
    Of course those kids will eat you alive.
    They'e been in the govt. indoctrination centers, I mean public schools, being brainwashed 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 
    There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.
    Absolutely.  I d love for them to teach just one week and see if their opinion changes. If you suck these kids will eat you alive lol. 
    Of course those kids will eat you alive.
    They'e been in the govt. indoctrination centers, I mean public schools, being brainwashed 
    Hey there hippie!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mcgruff10 said:
    pjhawks said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    How much does a teacher make per month in the US on average - a teacher for 16-19 year olds. What we call the gymnasium, and I guess you call college?
    I am on step 14 in my district (teaching 17 years overall but they didn't take any of my years) and make just under $70,000. My wife in on step 15 (19 years overall and same thing) and makes $73k.  It depends on the district and state.    After 21 years I'll "top" out making around $102k.  We both teach 8th grade across the hall from each other lol.  
    $70k and $73k for 9 months of work - that's pretty good if you ask me.
    After 14 and 15 years of work? What is your profession and salary?

    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    mcgruff10 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Oh and my bad, I am $63.5 this year and my wife is at $69. What I said was next years salaries. 
    There are a lot of people in this country, and a few on here, who believe that you and your wife are overpaid and underworked.
    Absolutely.  I d love for them to teach just one week and see if their opinion changes. If you suck these kids will eat you alive lol. 
    Of course those kids will eat you alive.
    They'e been in the govt. indoctrination centers, I mean public schools, being brainwashed 
    That is college, not middle school lol. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......