TONIGHT’S LONDON SHOW POSTPONED

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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,642
    rangers72 said:
    Personally pissed off with this,this is my familys summer holiday and it would have been both my daughters first shows and they are utterly devastated.When will i be able to get my money back for tickets as i will use the money to take them to something else.
    It’s so hard to be obey the rules and be nice when people post like this.  There may be more of you who feel the same way but I quit reading. I’m imagining the majority are understanding...thats how true PJ fans are

    please answer this question...what do you consider an acceptable reason to cancel? Personal tradgedy, nuclear missille on its way? Obviously your family has led a pretty good life if this their first and most devastating moment of their life’s. How about next time you take a few minutes and really think about what your writing. Somewhere a child is crying for their mother and/or father but they’re a thousand miles away and that child is laying on a floor in a cage filled with other children and their hearts are broken. Now that is devastating. You don’t deserve to attend a PJ show.
    Apologize in advance for errors..my hands are shaking
    A “true PJ fan” would let another vent. Let them have their moment to be angry. It’s unfair to throw bad shit happening in the world at them and just say someone has it worse. I guess you are never upset/angry in life since someone elses shit is always worse than yours? 
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  • rangers72 said:
    Personally pissed off with this,this is my familys summer holiday and it would have been both my daughters first shows and they are utterly devastated.When will i be able to get my money back for tickets as i will use the money to take them to something else.
    It’s so hard to be obey the rules and be nice when people post like this.  There may be more of you who feel the same way but I quit reading. I’m imagining the majority are understanding...thats how true PJ fans are

    please answer this question...what do you consider an acceptable reason to cancel? Personal tradgedy, nuclear missille on its way? Obviously your family has led a pretty good life if this their first and most devastating moment of their life’s. How about next time you take a few minutes and really think about what your writing. Somewhere a child is crying for their mother and/or father but they’re a thousand miles away and that child is laying on a floor in a cage filled with other children and their hearts are broken. Now that is devastating. You don’t deserve to attend a PJ show.
    Apologize in advance for errors..my hands are shaking
    A “true PJ fan” would let another vent. Let them have their moment to be angry. It’s unfair to throw bad shit happening in the world at them and just say someone has it worse. I guess you are never upset/angry in life since someone elses shit is always worse than yours? 
    this. let people vent and move on. throwing fuel on the fire won't put it out. 
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,853
    So his ranting and raving is more important than my comments and opinions? And by the way I really didn’t ask anyone to agree with me. “Utterly devasted” is a little dramatic.  One thing to be disappointed, his comments were on a whole different level. And we’ve all seen Ed throw lots of idiots out of a concert...so don’t tell me how a PJ fan would or should act...I’ve seen how the band acts so that’s proof enough for me. 
    Of course things have happened to me, my children, things that truly were “utterly devasting” to us....I assure you none of them were missed vacations or concerts 
  • So his ranting and raving is more important than my comments and opinions? And by the way I really didn’t ask anyone to agree with me. “Utterly devasted” is a little dramatic.  One thing to be disappointed, his comments were on a whole different level. And we’ve all seen Ed throw lots of idiots out of a concert...so don’t tell me how a PJ fan would or should act...I’ve seen how the band acts so that’s proof enough for me. 
    Of course things have happened to me, my children, things that truly were “utterly devasting” to us....I assure you none of them were missed vacations or concerts 
    not more important. I just don't see how it's worth it or helps, that's all. context matters. utterly devastating or gutted one day means one thing and 2 years from now means something completely different to that same person. 

    and you're right, I don't like when people use the "true PJ fan would do X". that's nonsense. there is no criteria that all pj fans fit into. 
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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,642
    edited June 2018
    So his ranting and raving is more important than my comments and opinions? And by the way I really didn’t ask anyone to agree with me. “Utterly devasted” is a little dramatic.  One thing to be disappointed, his comments were on a whole different level. And we’ve all seen Ed throw lots of idiots out of a concert...so don’t tell me how a PJ fan would or should act...I’ve seen how the band acts so that’s proof enough for me. 
    Of course things have happened to me, my children, things that truly were “utterly devasting” to us....I assure you none of them were missed vacations or concerts 
    You literally said in your post “thats how true PJ fans are.” My quotes were to show you how ridiculous it is to say that. You posted to a forum and I responded just like you did to him. 

    He has a right to be upset. As does anyone that spent their money and time to be there. 

    Edit - I should add that most posts I have seen are upset with the situation, not the band personally or the decision having to be made.
    Post edited by drakeheuer14 on
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 17,008
    So his ranting and raving is more important than my comments and opinions? And by the way I really didn’t ask anyone to agree with me. “Utterly devasted” is a little dramatic.  One thing to be disappointed, his comments were on a whole different level. And we’ve all seen Ed throw lots of idiots out of a concert...so don’t tell me how a PJ fan would or should act...I’ve seen how the band acts so that’s proof enough for me. 
    Of course things have happened to me, my children, things that truly were “utterly devasting” to us....I assure you none of them were missed vacations or concerts 
    not more important. I just don't see how it's worth it or helps, that's all. context matters. utterly devastating or gutted one day means one thing and 2 years from now means something completely different to that same person. 

    and you're right, I don't like when people use the "true PJ fan would do X". that's nonsense. there is no criteria that all pj fans fit into. 
    Just check with me. I’m the benchmark for “true PJ fan”.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,350
    edited June 2018
    goldrush said:
    The waiting is driving me mad. Best wishes to Eddie Vedder, i hope this is nothing long term or too serious. Hoping he recovers as soon as possible. But something is up and we’re not totally sure what it is. You could tell something was off just from the setlist of the first show. Cancelling a show because of a voice problem early in a tour is a BIG deal. It makes me think this could be really bad potentially, and the worst scenarios come to mind. There’s a LOT riding on the line if any more shows ever got cancelled for masses of people. Too much spiritual healing and spiritual adventure left by the wayside.

     You have to think you have to try and make it happen any way you can at all costs. The spirit of rock and roll is very much alive. Dave Grohl breaks a leg on stage, ok they’re going to take me to the hospital, they’re going to put these bones back in place, i’m going to sit in a chair, and we are going to rock even fucking harder because I know just how much this means to the people and I know how bad they need this!! 

    This isn’t bad weather, this isn’t the law, this seems somewhat manageable. There are so many options if Eddie Vedder can’t go even at 33%. Good thing we have the loudest, most communal crowd on the planet that sings all the lyrics to any given song even Other Side, Angel, Dead Man, you name it. Just play all the hits, we will take the vocals. Let Stone sing. Mike, Jeff, and Matt all sing if singing even really matters that much. I personally don’t really care much for the vocals, the guitar and instrumentation is what always did it for me with this band.

    You could play the shows instrumentally. You could play the shows acoustically. You could bring an orchestra in. Let’s break some barriers! It’s ok to give it 50% if you had to. Eddie Vedder shouldn’t be giving it 100% at this point anyways, the vocals here just aren’t that important not like it’s anything virtuoso. Playing harsh songs on the voice like Deep, Mind Your Manners, Brain of J seems kind of questionable when the voice isn’t right. I’m just so passionate for this music, we gotta push through this shit. If you are going to cancel another show or the whole tour please announce it sooner than later so people can attempt to change plans. We are going to see what this band is made of in these next couple weeks at this older age.
    Sorry, but it’s just not as simple as Ed going at 33% or 50%... the guy has “completely lost his voice.” He cannot sing! There a big difference between Dave Grohl playing a set when he’s sitting down with a doctor holding his leg in place (as badass as that was!) to a singer with no voice.

    Maybe night 1 was Ed taking it easy as he could, and look where it got him. “Vocal rest for the next few days”.

    You also have to keep in mind that a large percentage of the crowd will be ‘casual’ fans, who would not be happy with Stone, Matt, or Jeff singing Pearl Jam songs. And they certainly wouldn’t want an instrumental concert.

    It really sucks and, speaking as someone who has also travelled halfway round the world to see them more than once, I really feel for the fans that are missing out. I hope they make an announcement soon, for better or worse, so that it doesn’t cause any more disruption for those that travelled. I just hope they do what’s right for Ed’s voice long term.
    Agreed - putting on a Pearl Jam show without Eddie would seem pretty ridiculous to the vast majority of the crowd. Just doing some crappy half-assed instrumental show or having Jeff and Stone singing instead of doing what the crowd paid for, which is to see a Pearl Jam show, seems like a terrible idea to me. And I'm quite sure that nobody in the band is willing to give it 50% - their standards are much higher than that!
    I completely understand that those who travelled in the for the show and spent a ton of money are really disappointed when a show gets cancelled or postponed and feel like everything should be done because of their own situations and expenditures, but that's just not how the world works. Rescheduling for when Eddie can sing is by far the most logical and rational thing to do. Unfortunately, this is the risk we all take when we decide to travel for concerts. We'd probably all be doing ourselves a favour if we remembered to keep the possibility of a cancellation in mind when we books these kinds of trips, to maybe kind of brace ourselves mentally for such an event.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 51,350
     Who is totally sick of the word gutted. I am!!
    Haha! Me too! I thought it was funny that suddenly everyone added the word to their common vocabulary, but now it's just kind of annoying, lol. ;)
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  • cblock4life
    cblock4life Posts: 1,853
    Ok I live by the philosophy that if I have to hear you then you have to hear me.  His comments, my comments, your opinion, on and on. I’ve said my peace, that’s how I feel. And guess what, I was allowed to feel that way just like he was and you too. My definition of a true PJ fan is different than yours, or his or hers, you getting the point now? You think I bashed him so you bashed me then your friend jumped in and so on and so on. Ok so I’m done posting because something more devastating in the world is happening that I must find out about
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,747
    News from. Italy are good :)  Milan here i come tomorrow
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  • bluegrace
    bluegrace Posts: 2,357
    I hope Ed is seeing a vocal coach as well. I'm a bit worried that he is singing only from his throat, that way you can easily end up with a sore throat.
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  • pashapasaman
    pashapasaman Posts: 500
    News from. Italy are good :)  Milan here i come tomorrow
    This is news from PJ camp right? Not some random livenation guy lol
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  • FactoryMan93
    FactoryMan93 Posts: 723
    Maybe this is the reason for the shorter sets. Maybe Ed was having trouble with his voice or throat in the past few days and finally it just gave out. Warm wishes for a fast recovery.
  • danlee1095
    danlee1095 Posts: 1,316
    deadendp said:
    Sitting in Heathrow with my wife waiting for the plane back to NY feeling mixed emotions. We had some really bad luck Monday night that got worse when the cancellation was announced. My wife and I both drew tickets for Night 2 so several months ago I swapped with another board member for his fan club presale GA seats for N1 (not officiall 10 Club seats but all signs pointed toward a legit deal).  Turns out these tickets were not valid...I nearly lost it when we were denied entry, but focused, recovered and was able to find a guardian angel who had an extra GA (didn’t catch your name but THANK YOU if you are reading this). My wife just said “go have fun” and she retreated back to the hotel, missing the show. I missed the first 3 songs but then settled in and had a heck of a night.

    We made the most of our “day off” in London on Tuesday and a little bad luck turned around when I randomly ran into Matt Cameron on the street. He was as cool as you would expect and I just told him to tell Ed we are all pushing for him to get better real soon, and that we would see him in Boston!

    Amazing trip to London, one very enjoyable show but yes, feeling a bit listless now and bummed my wife missed both shows (honestly I think we just miss our kids).  Couple lessons learned: don’t make trades for non 10C tickets and more importantly, every show is a gift.
    I am so very sorry to read this.  
    Oh man I would have cried if I got the chance to meet Matt Cameron. However important Pearl Jam are to me, Soundgarden are equally so. Did you grab a photo with him?
    I was tempted to ask but something told me to let it go. Who knows how the band members must have been feeling. I’m sure he would have obliged though!  He’s simply the best.
    There's a reason he is called Matt Fucking Cameron. :smile: So glad that you were able meet Matt. 

    Thank you for sharing your story and for reminding us all that every show really is a gift.  
    Of course and always happy to share stories with happy endings!
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,432
    deadendp said:
    Sitting in Heathrow with my wife waiting for the plane back to NY feeling mixed emotions. We had some really bad luck Monday night that got worse when the cancellation was announced. My wife and I both drew tickets for Night 2 so several months ago I swapped with another board member for his fan club presale GA seats for N1 (not officiall 10 Club seats but all signs pointed toward a legit deal).  Turns out these tickets were not valid...I nearly lost it when we were denied entry, but focused, recovered and was able to find a guardian angel who had an extra GA (didn’t catch your name but THANK YOU if you are reading this). My wife just said “go have fun” and she retreated back to the hotel, missing the show. I missed the first 3 songs but then settled in and had a heck of a night.

    We made the most of our “day off” in London on Tuesday and a little bad luck turned around when I randomly ran into Matt Cameron on the street. He was as cool as you would expect and I just told him to tell Ed we are all pushing for him to get better real soon, and that we would see him in Boston!

    Amazing trip to London, one very enjoyable show but yes, feeling a bit listless now and bummed my wife missed both shows (honestly I think we just miss our kids).  Couple lessons learned: don’t make trades for non 10C tickets and more importantly, every show is a gift.
    I am so very sorry to read this.  
    Oh man I would have cried if I got the chance to meet Matt Cameron. However important Pearl Jam are to me, Soundgarden are equally so. Did you grab a photo with him?
    I was tempted to ask but something told me to let it go. Who knows how the band members must have been feeling. I’m sure he would have obliged though!  He’s simply the best.
    There's a reason he is called Matt Fucking Cameron. :smile: So glad that you were able meet Matt. 

    Thank you for sharing your story and for reminding us all that every show really is a gift.  
    Of course and always happy to share stories with happy endings!
    Everybody enjoys a happy ending.
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  • VillagePJ
    VillagePJ Peterborough, UK Posts: 195
    Just remembered during Even Flow when there was the first real signs of his voice bothering him that he thrashed the mic stand against one of the on stage speakers in frustration.
    Yes i saw him stab the mic stand at the on stage monitor but a few seconds before that he'd stood on it and it moved almost sending him tumbling off it and thats why I thought he did that.
    Several times he looked to side stage and rubbed his throat so he did an incredible job to complete night 1.....and as others have said the crowd were very very loud.

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  • tino_11
    tino_11 Posts: 2,247
    Let's hope the new date is announced soon so we can start booking travel and accomodation. 

    Also, I'd be happy to contact Dan Mumford if PJ are stuck for a poster artist at short notice ;-)
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  • dquisenb
    dquisenb Posts: 3
    There is enough talent in Pearl Jam, the other members could of carried on without Eddie.  
  • electronblue
    electronblue WPB, Florida Posts: 3,505
    Ray J. T. said:
    First time ever in band history that a show has been canceled/postponed due to illness. This alone is an amazing stat for the band considering the amount of tours they have delivered since their inception. This must have been an extremely difficult decision to make for the band. I can only imagine how they feel knowing how quite disappointing this is to some fans who have made tons of arrangements to make this show. Get better Ed. Rest up, as we all know you are going to "comeback" stronger than ever to finish off this tour strong. 
    Pearl Jam is such an amazing band!!!!! Hearts and thoughts to them.
    Be well, Eddie!!
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  • dquisenb said:
    There is enough talent in Pearl Jam, the other members could of carried on without Eddie.  
    :rofl:
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