America's Gun Violence

HughFreakingDillon said:

fife said:

Gern Blansten said:

Shooting just happened at a middle school in Noblesville, IN

Just reporting one injury

middle school!

you know what drives me nuts lately about CNN? Harvey Weinstein in handcuffs is their biggest headline on their website. 

the school shooting you just mentioned is a blip. 

I don't know if that shouldn't be the headline.  When you consider that the Weinstein story lead to one of the biggest news story in the past year and lead to one of the biggest movement in the past year.  plus so far there doesn't seem to be alot of reports yet about the shooting.

HughFreakingDillon said:

fife said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

fife said:

Gern Blansten said:

Shooting just happened at a middle school in Noblesville, IN

Just reporting one injury

middle school!

you know what drives me nuts lately about CNN? Harvey Weinstein in handcuffs is their biggest headline on their website. 

the school shooting you just mentioned is a blip. 

I don't know if that shouldn't be the headline.  When you consider that the Weinstein story lead to one of the biggest news story in the past year and lead to one of the biggest movement in the past year.  plus so far there doesn't seem to be alot of reports yet about the shooting.

I agree in part. But it is part of a larger picture with CNN. more often than not, if there is an entertainment blockbuster at the same time as a societal blockbuster, entertainment gets the headline. 

I don't know if that is just a CNN thing or a for-profit news Media issue.  but I do understand what you are saying

cincybearcat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

bbiggs said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

bbiggs said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/05/24/us/oklahoma-city-shooting/index.html

Yee haw! Wild Wild West days are back.

I’m just happy to see no one was killed except the shooter. No innocent lives lost is the best possible outcome there. 

Judge, jury, executioner. “Confronted him outside.” Yup, Wild Wild West.
 

The shooter wore eye and hearing protection to his planned murder. He was an idiot and to be truthful, I'm completely okay with him meeting his end. The world doesn't need people like that anywhere.

The NRA is seizing the moment and promoting their company line at the moment (good guy with gun stops bad with gun). I guess we'll have to let them have their moment; however, it's a meaningless field goal at the end of a blowout (the score is now 77-3 in favour of the bad guys).

Good guy with a gun didnt stop anyone in this case.

And the next Good Guy with a Gun might get overzealous and shoot a jogger running in the general direction away from the scene.  

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

fife said:

Gern Blansten said:

Shooting just happened at a middle school in Noblesville, IN

Just reporting one injury

middle school!

you know what drives me nuts lately about CNN? Harvey Weinstein in handcuffs is their biggest headline on their website. 

the school shooting you just mentioned is a blip. 

Weinstein news is big. But the shooting was more "breaking" so you are probably right.  

We are becoming desensitized.  Mass shootings are just a part of American life now.  Statistically, you're still unlikely to be caught up in one but some people will be the unlucky ones and it's just so unnecessary.

Well, today's school shooting wasn't a mass shooting.... Yes, when the number of people shot in a school shooting is low, nobody's paying much attention, and when nobody even gets killed, heck, it's almost like a good day in the scheme of things.... I can't say I blame this on the news networks. They are just reporting what the masses have proven interests them the most.

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

fife said:

Gern Blansten said:

Shooting just happened at a middle school in Noblesville, IN

Just reporting one injury

middle school!

you know what drives me nuts lately about CNN? Harvey Weinstein in handcuffs is their biggest headline on their website. 

the school shooting you just mentioned is a blip. 

Weinstein news is big. But the shooting was more "breaking" so you are probably right.  

We are becoming desensitized.  Mass shootings are just a part of American life now.  Statistically, you're still unlikely to be caught up in one but some people will be the unlucky ones and it's just so unnecessary.

Well, today's school shooting wasn't a mass shooting.... Yes, when the number of people shot in a school shooting is low, nobody's paying much attention, and when nobody even gets killed, heck, it's almost like a good day in the scheme of things.... I can't say I blame this on the news networks. They are just reporting what the masses have proven interests them the most.

and THAT is just it. people are obsessed with fucking celebrity. 

Again without turning this tread into another topic, that story is not about a fucking celebrity, it is about a man who is accused of raping woman. 

fife said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

fife said:

Gern Blansten said:

Shooting just happened at a middle school in Noblesville, IN

Just reporting one injury

middle school!

you know what drives me nuts lately about CNN? Harvey Weinstein in handcuffs is their biggest headline on their website. 

the school shooting you just mentioned is a blip. 

Weinstein news is big. But the shooting was more "breaking" so you are probably right.  

We are becoming desensitized.  Mass shootings are just a part of American life now.  Statistically, you're still unlikely to be caught up in one but some people will be the unlucky ones and it's just so unnecessary.

Well, today's school shooting wasn't a mass shooting.... Yes, when the number of people shot in a school shooting is low, nobody's paying much attention, and when nobody even gets killed, heck, it's almost like a good day in the scheme of things.... I can't say I blame this on the news networks. They are just reporting what the masses have proven interests them the most.

and THAT is just it. people are obsessed with fucking celebrity. 

Again without turning this tread into another topic, that story is not about a fucking celebrity, it is about a man who is accused of raping woman. 

Yeah, that's what I was about to say. I've re-thought this HFD, and I'm starting to feel like maybe you're minimizing the case and issues around it because he is a celebrity. Weinstein is a PROLIFIC sexual predator, with dozens and dozens of accusations laid against him, and the whole story was the catalyst that exposed a very profound problem of sexual abuse and harassment going on in Hollywood, which covers a whole lot of ground and people, and then the story lead to exposing this problem across the board in the society. This is THE story that started the #metoo movement. That he's a celebrity seems like the least important factor in this story, and I think that's how it's being treated. This is a huge story in its own right, and I think a lot of coverage of it is valid.

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

fife said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

OnWis97 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

fife said:

Gern Blansten said:

Shooting just happened at a middle school in Noblesville, IN

Just reporting one injury

middle school!

you know what drives me nuts lately about CNN? Harvey Weinstein in handcuffs is their biggest headline on their website. 

the school shooting you just mentioned is a blip. 

Weinstein news is big. But the shooting was more "breaking" so you are probably right.  

We are becoming desensitized.  Mass shootings are just a part of American life now.  Statistically, you're still unlikely to be caught up in one but some people will be the unlucky ones and it's just so unnecessary.

Well, today's school shooting wasn't a mass shooting.... Yes, when the number of people shot in a school shooting is low, nobody's paying much attention, and when nobody even gets killed, heck, it's almost like a good day in the scheme of things.... I can't say I blame this on the news networks. They are just reporting what the masses have proven interests them the most.

and THAT is just it. people are obsessed with fucking celebrity. 

Again without turning this tread into another topic, that story is not about a fucking celebrity, it is about a man who is accused of raping woman. 

Yeah, that's what I was about to say. I've re-thought this HFD. Weinstein is a PROLIFIC sexual predator, with dozens and dozens of accusations laid against him, and the whole story was the catalyst that exposed a very profound problem of sexual abuse and harassment going on in Hollywood, which covers a whole lot of ground and people, and then the story lead to exposing this problem across the board in the society. This is THE story that started the #metoo movement. That he's a celebrity seems like the least important factor in this story, and I think that's how it's being treated. This is a huge story in its own right, and I think a lot of coverage of it is valid.

I get that. of course it's important and newsworthy. never said it wasn't. 

as I have also stated, I wasn't only talking about this one incident. CNN, and other mass media, routinely choose entertainment news over societal news. 

I think that just depends on the stories that are active at any given time. I think if what you're saying was really true, or at least true with any real consistency, we'd be seeing a lot more entertainment news on those networks that we do. Plus the point already made about them giving the audience what it wants, which to me means that it's not the mass media choosing. It's the audience.

PJPOWER said:

bootlegger10 said:

Okay, so I am now for the banning of all guns.  There has to be a way for homeowners to feel safe though.  Perhaps a stun gun or some other type of weapon that absolutely can't be used for a mass shooting. 

If you want to go hunting, then you can go through a background check, and rent a gun for the hunting trip. 

I haven't thought through all the scenarios, but this is beyond ridiculous at this point.  To those on this board that want to take no action, you are disturbed individuals and you may not even know it.  It was like when I was collecting Pearl Jam vinyl and trying to get every color, I didn't realize at the time how stupid that was. 

Like PJsoul said earlier, the fix won't come for several generations, but we need to start now.  Like with climate change, we can't change climate today or tomorrow, but we can make changes that can impact 50 years from now.

“Nobody is saying ban all guns”.  Bootlegger is saying “ban all guns” for reference, lol

there are plenty of citizens saying ban all guns. no politicians, that I've seen, are saying ban all guns. I think that's what people are referring to when saying "nobody is saying ban all guns".