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PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

I would not have called the police for it but the BBQ incident they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. I have no problem with saying something if i see something. better to be safe than sorry...unless...

yes, but would she have called the cops if it was a bunch of cardigan-wearing blonde people? who knows. 

obviously we will never know that but might be a good idea to be careful before labeling someone racist these days. not everyone who calls the police on black people are being racist.  i think that is where the tone is moving to these days.  we have to be careful not to go to far in either direction...calling too much or calling not at all.

Hell, even if she isn't racist, she deserves to be publicly shamed just for calling the cops about anyone using charcoal instead of propane. That's ridiculous, and at the very least I hope people learn that you don't go calling the cops for stupid shit like that. Not unless you maybe live in Mayberry or something, where the cops literally have nothing better to do.

no she does not.  so breaking the rules is ok but calling the police on someone breaking the rules because they are black and you are white deserves public shaming?  come on that's a stretch to me.   Again in no way would I have called the police or even cared one bit in this situation but I don't think she should be publicly shamed either.  

Well, it was admittedly easy to say because I 100% believe it was about her being racist.
But still, yeah, I think only a complete busybody moron would call the cops for this in any case, and I have no problem with busybody morons doing stupid shit that negatively impacts other people being called out on it publicly.

but why? if her intent was pure (not racist), she's to be shamed for asking people to follow the law? why would that be? 

Because I've had about enough of people acting like stupid petty assholes. Maybe the threat of consequences will help stop them.

how is it petty to expect people not to burn down a park?

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

I would not have called the police for it but the BBQ incident they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. I have no problem with saying something if i see something. better to be safe than sorry...unless...

yes, but would she have called the cops if it was a bunch of cardigan-wearing blonde people? who knows. 

obviously we will never know that but might be a good idea to be careful before labeling someone racist these days. not everyone who calls the police on black people are being racist.  i think that is where the tone is moving to these days.  we have to be careful not to go to far in either direction...calling too much or calling not at all.

Hell, even if she isn't racist, she deserves to be publicly shamed just for calling the cops about anyone using charcoal instead of propane. That's ridiculous, and at the very least I hope people learn that you don't go calling the cops for stupid shit like that. Not unless you maybe live in Mayberry or something, where the cops literally have nothing better to do.

no she does not.  so breaking the rules is ok but calling the police on someone breaking the rules because they are black and you are white deserves public shaming?  come on that's a stretch to me.   Again in no way would I have called the police or even cared one bit in this situation but I don't think she should be publicly shamed either.  

Well, it was admittedly easy to say because I 100% believe it was about her being racist.
But still, yeah, I think only a complete busybody moron would call the cops for this in any case, and I have no problem with busybody morons doing stupid shit that negatively impacts other people being called out on it publicly.

everyone does stupid shit at one time or another. i don't think we should be publicly shaming everyone.  unfortunately we live in a 'got ya' society today.  that concerns me.

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

I would not have called the police for it but the BBQ incident they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. I have no problem with saying something if i see something. better to be safe than sorry...unless...

yes, but would she have called the cops if it was a bunch of cardigan-wearing blonde people? who knows. 

obviously we will never know that but might be a good idea to be careful before labeling someone racist these days. not everyone who calls the police on black people are being racist.  i think that is where the tone is moving to these days.  we have to be careful not to go to far in either direction...calling too much or calling not at all.

Hell, even if she isn't racist, she deserves to be publicly shamed just for calling the cops about anyone using charcoal instead of propane. That's ridiculous, and at the very least I hope people learn that you don't go calling the cops for stupid shit like that. Not unless you maybe live in Mayberry or something, where the cops literally have nothing better to do.

no she does not.  so breaking the rules is ok but calling the police on someone breaking the rules because they are black and you are white deserves public shaming?  come on that's a stretch to me.   Again in no way would I have called the police or even cared one bit in this situation but I don't think she should be publicly shamed either.  

Well, it was admittedly easy to say because I 100% believe it was about her being racist.
But still, yeah, I think only a complete busybody moron would call the cops for this in any case, and I have no problem with busybody morons doing stupid shit that negatively impacts other people being called out on it publicly.

everyone does stupid shit at one time or another. i don't think we should be publicly shaming everyone.  unfortunately we live in a 'got ya' society today.  that concerns me.

The risk of viral humiliation and judgment is high these days. Most of the time we aren't even getting the full context of the incident before someone's life has been greatly affected and damaged.

mace1229 said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

I would not have called the police for it but the BBQ incident they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. I have no problem with saying something if i see something. better to be safe than sorry...unless...

yes, but would she have called the cops if it was a bunch of cardigan-wearing blonde people? who knows. 

obviously we will never know that but might be a good idea to be careful before labeling someone racist these days. not everyone who calls the police on black people are being racist.  i think that is where the tone is moving to these days.  we have to be careful not to go to far in either direction...calling too much or calling not at all.

Hell, even if she isn't racist, she deserves to be publicly shamed just for calling the cops about anyone using charcoal instead of propane. That's ridiculous, and at the very least I hope people learn that you don't go calling the cops for stupid shit like that. Not unless you maybe live in Mayberry or something, where the cops literally have nothing better to do.

no she does not.  so breaking the rules is ok but calling the police on someone breaking the rules because they are black and you are white deserves public shaming?  come on that's a stretch to me.   Again in no way would I have called the police or even cared one bit in this situation but I don't think she should be publicly shamed either.  

I've defended the callers on some of these other high profile cases, but this one seems different.
Doesn't the article say this is an annual thing, and that they had permits? Looking at the picture it looks very well organized. I think calling the cops was very dumb on this one.
"To make it happen, they reportedly spent $700 on city permits and coordinated with city officials like the fire department"

If this was a park geared towards little kids, and a giant group like this just took over and was leaving trash everywhere, maybe I could see calling the cops. But that wasnt the case.

That was of the BBQ in response to the initial incident with 2 black males.

rgambs said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

I would not have called the police for it but the BBQ incident they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. I have no problem with saying something if i see something. better to be safe than sorry...unless...

yes, but would she have called the cops if it was a bunch of cardigan-wearing blonde people? who knows. 

obviously we will never know that but might be a good idea to be careful before labeling someone racist these days. not everyone who calls the police on black people are being racist.  i think that is where the tone is moving to these days.  we have to be careful not to go to far in either direction...calling too much or calling not at all.

Hell, even if she isn't racist, she deserves to be publicly shamed just for calling the cops about anyone using charcoal instead of propane. That's ridiculous, and at the very least I hope people learn that you don't go calling the cops for stupid shit like that. Not unless you maybe live in Mayberry or something, where the cops literally have nothing better to do.

no she does not.  so breaking the rules is ok but calling the police on someone breaking the rules because they are black and you are white deserves public shaming?  come on that's a stretch to me.   Again in no way would I have called the police or even cared one bit in this situation but I don't think she should be publicly shamed either.  

First of all she was wrong about the rule and second she didn't just call the cops she waited on the phone for nearly two hours to try and get the cops to come to deal with it.
Mind your own damn business or don't be worried if either people aren't going to when you get publicly shamed.

everything I've read so far says the woman claimed it was illegal, but no article has clarified if it was or not. 

again, I don't condone "busy-body" behaviour, but I draw the line at safety, especialy potential fire issues. if it was legal, fine, the woman was in the wrong, but if she was correct about the by-law, I see nothing wrong with her concern. 

Would I have done it? no. 

in winnipeg a woman got a visit from Child and Family Services for letting her young children play in her FENCED IN YARD. She was in the kitchen watching them. And now she has a permanent file with CFS. now THAT was ridiculous. 

maybe if the kids were playing new power tools or something, but jesus. use your head. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

I would not have called the police for it but the BBQ incident they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. I have no problem with saying something if i see something. better to be safe than sorry...unless...

yes, but would she have called the cops if it was a bunch of cardigan-wearing blonde people? who knows. 

obviously we will never know that but might be a good idea to be careful before labeling someone racist these days. not everyone who calls the police on black people are being racist.  i think that is where the tone is moving to these days.  we have to be careful not to go to far in either direction...calling too much or calling not at all.

Hell, even if she isn't racist, she deserves to be publicly shamed just for calling the cops about anyone using charcoal instead of propane. That's ridiculous, and at the very least I hope people learn that you don't go calling the cops for stupid shit like that. Not unless you maybe live in Mayberry or something, where the cops literally have nothing better to do.

no she does not.  so breaking the rules is ok but calling the police on someone breaking the rules because they are black and you are white deserves public shaming?  come on that's a stretch to me.   Again in no way would I have called the police or even cared one bit in this situation but I don't think she should be publicly shamed either.  

Well, it was admittedly easy to say because I 100% believe it was about her being racist.
But still, yeah, I think only a complete busybody moron would call the cops for this in any case, and I have no problem with busybody morons doing stupid shit that negatively impacts other people being called out on it publicly.

but why? if her intent was pure (not racist), she's to be shamed for asking people to follow the law? why would that be? 

Because I've had about enough of people acting like stupid petty assholes. Maybe the threat of consequences will help stop them.

how is it petty to expect people not to burn down a park?

It's not at all a reasonable assumption that grow adults having an organized BBQ are going to burn down a park.  

It's called mind your damn business, don't people get taught that still?
They should.
Don't be a fucking rat either. 

What's next, do we call the cops on jaywalkers?  If I see somebody smoking weed, should I call the cops?  What if someone is driving without a seatbelt?  Better call the law!!

tbergs said:

rgambs said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

PJ_Soul said:

pjhawks said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjhawks said:

I would not have called the police for it but the BBQ incident they were doing something they weren't supposed to be doing. I have no problem with saying something if i see something. better to be safe than sorry...unless...

yes, but would she have called the cops if it was a bunch of cardigan-wearing blonde people? who knows. 

obviously we will never know that but might be a good idea to be careful before labeling someone racist these days. not everyone who calls the police on black people are being racist.  i think that is where the tone is moving to these days.  we have to be careful not to go to far in either direction...calling too much or calling not at all.

Hell, even if she isn't racist, she deserves to be publicly shamed just for calling the cops about anyone using charcoal instead of propane. That's ridiculous, and at the very least I hope people learn that you don't go calling the cops for stupid shit like that. Not unless you maybe live in Mayberry or something, where the cops literally have nothing better to do.

no she does not.  so breaking the rules is ok but calling the police on someone breaking the rules because they are black and you are white deserves public shaming?  come on that's a stretch to me.   Again in no way would I have called the police or even cared one bit in this situation but I don't think she should be publicly shamed either.  

Well, it was admittedly easy to say because I 100% believe it was about her being racist.
But still, yeah, I think only a complete busybody moron would call the cops for this in any case, and I have no problem with busybody morons doing stupid shit that negatively impacts other people being called out on it publicly.

but why? if her intent was pure (not racist), she's to be shamed for asking people to follow the law? why would that be? 

Because I've had about enough of people acting like stupid petty assholes. Maybe the threat of consequences will help stop them.

how is it petty to expect people not to burn down a park?

It's not at all a reasonable assumption that grow adults having an organized BBQ are going to burn down a park.  

It's called mind your damn business, don't people get taught that still?
They should.
Don't be a fucking rat either. 

What's next, do we call the cops on jaywalkers?  If I see somebody smoking weed, should I call the cops?  What if someone is driving without a seatbelt?  Better call the law!!

I don't know if calling the police in all the situations warrants it, but I would default to the totality of circumstances. A jay walker weaving in and out of traffic is not something to take lightly. High safety risk. Seatbelt, meh, probably not, but if they have kids in the car with them I'd be concerned they aren't as diligent about ensuring the safety of their kids. The weed smoking situation also requires context. I also don't think we should teach people to ignore delinquent behaviors either. It's a fine line.

I disagree.
No fine line.
It's a big fat ass line.

If nobody is getting hurt, mind your own damn business.