America's Gun Violence

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    I’m just wondering. Since most republicans think thoughts and prayers will solve the mass gun violence, why don’t they just use that for immigration and other areas of policy? Why do they enact laws for some issues and just use thoughts and prayers for others? 
    Simple... because they are full of shit
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 41,014
    If these folks should were shooting up their local, county, or state public offices instead of schools, that'd get laws changed real fuckin' quick.

    Disclaimer: I am not suggesting they actually do this nor am I condoning violence.  It's a hypothetical thought that, if they did this, perhaps we'd be more apt to see progress.
    An AZ Congresswoman was shot at a rally and nothing happened.

    In DC a congressman was shot on a ball field and nothing was done.

    I do remember reading that Reagan while governor of California, passed gun laws pretty quickly when the Panthers were expressing their 2nd amendment rights.
  • g under pg under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,213

    I’m just wondering. Since most republicans think thoughts and prayers will solve the mass gun violence, why don’t they just use that for immigration and other areas of policy? Why do they enact laws for some issues and just use thoughts and prayers for others? 

    Well aside from thoughts and prayers they're thinking having MORE guns and the ability to get guns easier will solve the problem.

     In this last shooting they were two officers there at the school and STILL we had a mass shooting. So having more police officers, and having more of a gun presence won't always stop these shootings from continuing to occur.

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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,698
    my2hands said:
    I see the same people making excuses and saying nothing can be done

    Pathetic 

    Who here has said nothing can be done? I recall most gun owners stating they are for change and more regulations? Who says we just have to live with it?

    I’m just wondering. Since most republicans think thoughts and prayers will solve the mass gun violence, why don’t they just use that for immigration and other areas of policy? Why do they enact laws for some issues and just use thoughts and prayers for others? 

    I never get why the phrase "thoughts and prayers" is so mocked. Every Democratic politician has offered "thoughts and prayers" after shootings. It would be kind of a dick to not saying your thoughts are with victims, wouldn't it be? No one has ever suggested they solve the gun problem. And there probably have been "thoughts and prayers" that go out towards the victims of immigration, the thousands that are killed or raped every year.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 49,577
    my2hands said:
    I see the same people making excuses and saying nothing can be done

    Pathetic 
    The rest of the world continues to laugh at us. 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,651
    mace1229 said:

    Who here has said nothing can be done? I recall most gun owners stating they are for change and more regulations? Who says we just have to live with it?


    I never get why the phrase "thoughts and prayers" is so mocked. Every Democratic politician has offered "thoughts and prayers" after shootings. It would be kind of a dick to not saying your thoughts are with victims, wouldn't it be? No one has ever suggested they solve the gun problem. And there probably have been "thoughts and prayers" that go out towards the victims of immigration, the thousands that are killed or raped every year.
    it's mocked because nothing else happens.  We couldn't even get bump stocks banned for Christ's sake.  
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,710
    mace1229 said:

    Who here has said nothing can be done? I recall most gun owners stating they are for change and more regulations? Who says we just have to live with it?


    I never get why the phrase "thoughts and prayers" is so mocked. Every Democratic politician has offered "thoughts and prayers" after shootings. It would be kind of a dick to not saying your thoughts are with victims, wouldn't it be? No one has ever suggested they solve the gun problem. And there probably have been "thoughts and prayers" that go out towards the victims of immigration, the thousands that are killed or raped every year.
    Because it's useless?  If prayers worked there would be no shooting.
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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
    Don't Humans Kill Humans and Not Guns?
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,710
    Please go smoke another bowl
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJPOWER said:
    So what’s your plan for making them go away? 
    Exhibit A
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJPOWER said:
    So what is your solution?

    Exhibit B
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Desensitized children due to violence glorified on the screen,violent video games meant for adults being played by children, media demonizing authority. They do what they're taught by role models and what's glorified by what they see everyday. 
    Exhibit C
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    dudeman said:
    Parenting.
    Exhibit D
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mace1229 said:

    Who here has said nothing can be done? I recall most gun owners stating they are for change and more regulations? Who says we just have to live with it?


    I never get why the phrase "thoughts and prayers" is so mocked. Every Democratic politician has offered "thoughts and prayers" after shootings. It would be kind of a dick to not saying your thoughts are with victims, wouldn't it be? No one has ever suggested they solve the gun problem. And there probably have been "thoughts and prayers" that go out towards the victims of immigration, the thousands that are killed or raped every year.

    What do you mean by the "victims of immigration"? Are you implying that thousand of Americans are killed or raped every year by immigrants? Since immigrants are less likely to commit violent crimes than those born in the USA, Americans would logically be safer around immigrants than those born in the US.

    If you are referring to immigrants who have been harmed in the process, then you may have something there. 
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  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,999
    mace1229 said:

    Who here has said nothing can be done? I recall most gun owners stating they are for change and more regulations? Who says we just have to live with it?


    I never get why the phrase "thoughts and prayers" is so mocked. Every Democratic politician has offered "thoughts and prayers" after shootings. It would be kind of a dick to not saying your thoughts are with victims, wouldn't it be? No one has ever suggested they solve the gun problem. And there probably have been "thoughts and prayers" that go out towards the victims of immigration, the thousands that are killed or raped every year.
    NRA is basically saying we have to live with it ! by their non action on any gun reform or do you disagree ? 
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  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    my2hands said:
    Exhibit B
    So asking for your thoughts regarding a solution equals saying nothing can be done in your world?  The only person here i’ve seen saying nothing can be done is jose...sorry to call you out jose.  

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    mace1229 said:

    Who here has said nothing can be done? I recall most gun owners stating they are for change and more regulations? Who says we just have to live with it?


    I never get why the phrase "thoughts and prayers" is so mocked. Every Democratic politician has offered "thoughts and prayers" after shootings. It would be kind of a dick to not saying your thoughts are with victims, wouldn't it be? No one has ever suggested they solve the gun problem. And there probably have been "thoughts and prayers" that go out towards the victims of immigration, the thousands that are killed or raped every year.
    See above...

    Thoughts and prayers are the only thing offered.... it's become a disgusting fucking joke at this point.... it seems the only solutions offered are arming teachers (arm everybody) or that schools have to many doors... the pro gun crowd is a fucking joke. Period.

    Parenting. Video games. TV. The internet. Bullying. Mental health. Lack of God. Etc. Etc. Etc. ANYTHING but the fact this country is littered with guns... and its getting worse by the minute with cowardly suburban white guys stockpiling AR and similar weapons.... tactical flashlights... tactical sunglasses... 

    The fact you even had to ask those questions tells me everything I need to know
  • my2hands said:
    Exhibit D

    Damn.

    I bet some people wish you hadn't placed all those exhibits in a row- it makes the gun stroker look sorta goofy.

    Anything but the obvious. Shockingly asinine. I'll never get over the mentality that seeks to preserve gun rights and how silly it can be defending those rights. It would be comical if it wasn't so damn reckless. 
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJPOWER said:
    So asking for your thoughts regarding a solution equals saying nothing can be done in your world?  The only person here i’ve seen saying nothing can be done is jose...sorry to call you out jose.  

    It's what is inferred by your comment,  which you always go to when confronted in this issue with the facts driving the problem, we have too many fucking guns.  You throw up your hands as if its hopeless and put it on a poster to come up with solutions, as if it hasn't been discussed ad nauseam 

    What would you do, besides arm teachers?


  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    my2hands said:
    See above...

    Thoughts and prayers are the only thing offered.... it's become a disgusting fucking joke at this point.... it seems the only solutions offered are arming teachers (arm everybody) or that schools have to many doors... the pro gun crowd is a fucking joke. Period.

    Parenting. Video games. TV. The internet. Bullying. Mental health. Lack of God. Etc. Etc. Etc. ANYTHING but the fact this country is littered with guns... and its getting worse by the minute with cowardly suburban white guys stockpiling AR and similar weapons.... tactical flashlights... tactical sunglasses... 

    The fact you even had to ask those questions tells me everything I need to know
    So flashlights and sunglasses are to blame now?  Lol  
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,710
    Every other country has violent video games and violet movies....every other country has the internet. 

    Not every other country has our gun laws (or lack of)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,710


    Just step back and take in the stupidity of the GOP
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJPOWER said:
    So flashlights and sunglasses are to blame now?  Lol  
    Nice try,  it's evidence of the paranoid mentality of some in this country and why people are stockpiling weapons. Why the hell does a civilian need a tactical flashlight? Its openly advertised that way. 

    Every shooting you come in here and do the same thing, play contrarian and challenge/ridicule people and their ideas that actually want change

    Are you part of the problem or the solution? 

  • PJPOWERPJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    my2hands said:
    It's what is inferred by your comment,  which you always go to when confronted in this issue with the facts driving the problem, we have too many fucking guns.  You throw up your hands as if its hopeless and put it on a poster to come up with solutions, as if it hasn't been discussed ad nauseam 

    What would you do, besides arm teachers?


    I said I agreed with the poster if you are talking about the one I am thinking.  Why don’t you focus on the subject at hand instead of crying about other posters.  I’ve offered several suggestions throughout the forum, but it gets tiring rehashing them.  Just because people might not agree with you does not mean they are throwing in the towel.  

  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,710
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • i_lov_iti_lov_it Perth, Western Australia Posts: 4,007
     
    Every other country has violent video games and violet movies....every other country has the internet. 

    Not every other country has our gun laws (or lack of)
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 21,710
    i_lov_it said:
    Stay off the ***GREEN***...You're Blanched...

    I think that joke has played out
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    PJPOWER said:
    I said I agreed with the poster if you are talking about the one I am thinking.  Why don’t you focus on the subject at hand instead of crying about other posters.  I’ve offered several suggestions throughout the forum, but it gets tiring rehashing them.  Just because people might not agree with you does not mean they are throwing in the towel.  

    So you haven't been openly stating gun reform wont work in this country for various reasons? The only reform I've seen you advocate for is more guns brother
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