America's Gun Violence

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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117

    we still talking about the stupid video? talk about not seeing the forest for the trees


    meanwhile, how many people have been killed in this country by firearms?

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,962
    my2hands said:

    we still talking about the stupid video? talk about not seeing the forest for the trees


    meanwhile, how many people have been killed in this country by firearms?

    Way too many.  
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    my2hands said:

    we still talking about the stupid video? talk about not seeing the forest for the trees


    meanwhile, how many people have been killed in this country by firearms?

    Overall or just since the video was made?  I'd be interested in both stats, tbh.

    Also, number of people killed or injured by Karen Mallard while deconstructing a gun: 0
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,919
    bbiggs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    bbiggs said:
    ^ This guy is clearly not a responsible gun owner. He’s a moron. 

    He was a “responsible” gun owner until he wasn’t.
    Says who? He may have always been irresponsible. I get what you’re saying, but my point is that such a thing (“responsible”) does exist. Clearly not from this clown. 
    The NRA and pro gun crowd would have you believe that every gun begins as a legal firearm and every legal gun buyer starts out as a “responsible” gun owner. I’m arguing that they’re “responsible” until they’re not. Thus, no recurring licensing or requirements to exhibit that you continue to “responsible” with a firearm after purchase.
    I’m actually a rarity on this topic. I am a responsible firearm owner (no quotes around responsible). There is such a thing, contrary to what some think.  There are also way too many irresponsible firearm owners, both legally and illegally.  I’d be accepting of much stricter gun laws, including extensive background checks, psychological testing, etc. I’d also be willing to ban any firearm that has a 30 round magazine (i.e. assault rifles).  If those two concessions were made (hypothetically) by the NRA and “pro-gun crowd,” would that be sufficient? I think the problem then becomes, if those laws are passed and someone goes on a rampage with a handgun, those will be the next target. Curious to hear your take. 
    I feel like most people who want stricter gun regulations would be oretty happy with those changes, although I don't think for a second that they would stop the gun violence/death problems that America is experiencing. That is a gun culture issue, not a regulation issue. Gun control helps for sure, just by making it harder for shit to happen, but it sure won't ultimately solve any problems. Americans need to get guns out of their DNA first (so to speak). They need to think of guns as abnormal instead of normal for the problem to really start getting fixed.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,164
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Like you were ever for it to begin with.
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  • PJPOWER
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    edited May 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Like you were ever for it to begin with.
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  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??

    I reckon ya ain't never shot shit. If ya dun never shot shit with your pappy then ya ain't got no place to speak a takin' ma damn gun.

    Liberals all dun went an got loco.
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  • bbiggs
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    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??

    I reckon ya ain't never shot shit. If ya dun never shot shit with your pappy then ya ain't got no place to speak a takin' ma damn gun.

    Liberals all dun went an got loco.
    Lol
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??

    I reckon ya ain't never shot shit. If ya dun never shot shit with your pappy then ya ain't got no place to speak a takin' ma damn gun.

    Liberals all dun went an got loco.
    I’m aboot teered of dees Canadeeeens stereotyping, eh.  We all know all Canadians are the equivalent of the Trailer Park Boys!
    https://youtu.be/bOR38552MJA

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??
    Pretty sure there would be more piles of dead bodies to deal with if any government entity actually tried to confiscate the public’s privately owned firearms by force.  Can we now put these “why is anyone against registration” bullshit arguments to rest?  This congressman created a prime example of why people vote against such measures.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
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    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??

    I reckon ya ain't never shot shit. If ya dun never shot shit with your pappy then ya ain't got no place to speak a takin' ma damn gun.

    Liberals all dun went an got loco.
    I’m aboot teered of dees Canadeeeens stereotyping, eh.  We all know all Canadians are the equivalent of the Trailer Park Boys
    lol
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??

    I reckon ya ain't never shot shit. If ya dun never shot shit with your pappy then ya ain't got no place to speak a takin' ma damn gun.

    Liberals all dun went an got loco.
    I’m aboot teered of dees Canadeeeens stereotyping, eh.  We all know all Canadians are the equivalent of the Trailer Park Boys
    lol
    :)
  • unsung
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    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    I hope he is the first to stack up.  Of course he won't be because he is a chickenshit, just like the rest of them.  I guess they really do want another Civil War.  What will he do when nobody is willing to comply or enforce it?

    How do you buyback something you never owned?
  • PJPOWER
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    unsung said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    I hope he is the first to stack up.  Of course he won't be because he is a chickenshit, just like the rest of them.  I guess they really do want another Civil War.  What will he do when nobody is willing to comply or enforce it?

    How do you buyback something you never owned?
    Hell, people in NY are not even complying with their registration requirements.
    https://www.newsmax.com/t/newsmax/article/651912?section=US&keywords=new-york-gun-registration-law&year=2015&month=06&date=23&id=651912&aliaspath=%2FManage%2FArticles%2FTemplate-Main&oref=www.bing.com

  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??
    Pretty sure there would be more piles of dead bodies to deal with if any government entity actually tried to confiscate the public’s privately owned firearms by force.  Can we now put these “why is anyone against registration” bullshit arguments to rest?  This congressman created a prime example of why people vote against such measures.
    Oh please, one congressman writes an Op-Ed and you guys are ready to Man the ramparts and go once more into the breach. Until an actual bill is introduced, makes its way into and out of committee to the floor and 218 house members vote yay and then the same process happens in the senate with 51 members voting yay, keep your paranoid delusions to yourself. If you so desperately want to kill, join the military or become “unresponsible.” Otherwise, you may never get your chance. But feel free to go out and buy another AR15 if it’ll make you feel more secure.
     
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited May 2018
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??
    Pretty sure there would be more piles of dead bodies to deal with if any government entity actually tried to confiscate the public’s privately owned firearms by force.  Can we now put these “why is anyone against registration” bullshit arguments to rest?  This congressman created a prime example of why people vote against such measures.
    Oh please, one congressman writes an Op-Ed and you guys are ready to Man the ramparts and go once more into the breach. Until an actual bill is introduced, makes its way into and out of committee to the floor and 218 house members vote yay and then the same process happens in the senate with 51 members voting yay, keep your paranoid delusions to yourself. If you so desperately want to kill, join the military or become “unresponsible.” Otherwise, you may never get your chance. But feel free to go out and buy another AR15 if it’ll make you feel more secure.
     
    So you think gun owners just “desperately want to kill”...I think you are the one with “paranoid delusions”.  I think it is safe to say that this is not the only numbnut that would support confiscation.  I will personally never vote for a person that supports a registry.  
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??
    Pretty sure there would be more piles of dead bodies to deal with if any government entity actually tried to confiscate the public’s privately owned firearms by force.  Can we now put these “why is anyone against registration” bullshit arguments to rest?  This congressman created a prime example of why people vote against such measures.
    Oh please, one congressman writes an Op-Ed and you guys are ready to Man the ramparts and go once more into the breach. Until an actual bill is introduced, makes its way into and out of committee to the floor and 218 house members vote yay and then the same process happens in the senate with 51 members voting yay, keep your paranoid delusions to yourself. If you so desperately want to kill, join the military or become “unresponsible.” Otherwise, you may never get your chance. But feel free to go out and buy another AR15 if it’ll make you feel more secure.
     
    So you think gun owners just “desperately want to kill”...I think you are the one with “paranoid delusions”.  I think it is safe to say that this is not the only numbnut that would support confiscation.  I will personally never vote for a person that supports a registry.  
    No, but read Unsung’s stellar post above mine but you guys read or typically hear about an “opinion” and equate it with the government kicking in your doors tomorrow and some of you seem gleeful at the possibility. It’ll never happen. So, what are you going to do?
     
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  • PJPOWER
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    PJPOWER said:
    rgambs said:
    PJPOWER said:
    “No one is coming for your guns”
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/dem-congressman-force-gun-owners-sell-assault-weapons-n871066
    I am now firmly against any kind of registration.
    Of course, I mean when it comes down to disruption of a hobby or piles of dead human bodies, who doesn't choose the hobby??
    Pretty sure there would be more piles of dead bodies to deal with if any government entity actually tried to confiscate the public’s privately owned firearms by force.  Can we now put these “why is anyone against registration” bullshit arguments to rest?  This congressman created a prime example of why people vote against such measures.
    Oh please, one congressman writes an Op-Ed and you guys are ready to Man the ramparts and go once more into the breach. Until an actual bill is introduced, makes its way into and out of committee to the floor and 218 house members vote yay and then the same process happens in the senate with 51 members voting yay, keep your paranoid delusions to yourself. If you so desperately want to kill, join the military or become “unresponsible.” Otherwise, you may never get your chance. But feel free to go out and buy another AR15 if it’ll make you feel more secure.
     
    So you think gun owners just “desperately want to kill”...I think you are the one with “paranoid delusions”.  I think it is safe to say that this is not the only numbnut that would support confiscation.  I will personally never vote for a person that supports a registry.  
    No, but read Unsung’s stellar post above mine but you guys read or typically hear about an “opinion” and equate it with the government kicking in your doors tomorrow and some of you seem gleeful at the possibility. It’ll never happen. So, what are you going to do?
     
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