'You are in Saskatchewan's hearts': 14 confirmed dead in junior hockey team bus crash

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'You are in Saskatchewan's hearts': 14 confirmed dead in junior hockey team bus crash

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/nipawin-humboldt-bus-crash-1.4609554

Just terrible ... RIP
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  • Yup. Brutal for sure.

    It's very early and no details about the crash have been released, but I can't stop wondering how this occurred given the nature of the highway crossing?
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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    Terrible news.  So sad to hear this.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,647
    Horrible news :( just so sad ...RIP
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  • Meltdown99
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    Head coach among 14 killed in Sask. junior hockey team bus crash

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/nipawin-humboldt-bus-crash-1.4609835

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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    I know a few people involved with the hockey team they were heading to play that night. 

    Terrible tragedy.
  • Just watched press conference.

    Eesh. 

    A nightmare.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Death toll has risen to 15.

    Truck driver was not injured and was originally detained but later relesed...
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  • Fifthelement
    Fifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,965
    Absolutely devastating.  My heart and thoughts go out to the Humboldt Broncos, their families and friends as well as to the first responders and hospital staff.  I cannot even imagine how deep the grief is.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Words can’t describe my thoughts of this horrific loss. I’m keeping the families and friends in my thoughts. Fuck. That team picture, damn.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    edited April 2018
    This is the part that has me restraining myself from jumping to conclusions:

    The semi-trailer would have had to yield to a stop sign before crossing over the highway that the hockey bus was travelling on.

    It's wide open there and the roads are straight as the crow flies. In other words... this intersection should be one of the safest intersections in the world.

    The wreckage is unfathomable. I can't imagine the force of the collision. I can't imagine the horror of the scene. This is an extremely disturbing event.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/rcmp-say-multiple-factors-under-consideration-in-broncos-team-bus-crash/ar-AAvBsxe?li=AAggNb9&ocid=edgsp
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  • Meltdown99
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    This is the part that has me restraining myself from jumping to conclusions:

    The semi-trailer would have had to yield to a stop sign before crossing over the highway that the hockey bus was travelling on.

    It's wide open there and the roads are straight as the crow flies. In other words... this intersection should be one of the safest intersections in the world.

    The wreckage is unfathomable. I can't imagine the force of the collision. I can't imagine the horror of the scene. This is an extremely disturbing event.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/rcmp-say-multiple-factors-under-consideration-in-broncos-team-bus-crash/ar-AAvBsxe?li=AAggNb9&ocid=edgsp
    I've seen Google map pictures of that intersection.  It's very baffling.  Either the trucker didn't stop, did stop and didn't see the bus or misjudged somehow...

    How many more of these tragic accidents do we need involving semi/passenger vehicles before we pass stricter requirements to drive those trucks ... you can get your licence in less than 2 months to drive one of those.  The Toronto Star did a piece a few years ago about how many drivers were getting poorly trained at  fly-by-night schools.  It's still to early to speculate I guess...but I do not see how the bus was a fault.
    My wife drives semi.  Any job she has had, they only drug when they hired her, and road test before...never been drugs tested after being hired, has never been road tested  by company every so often, or has ever been offered additional training, many truckers drive 10-13 hour days ... the pay is not that great for the hours they put in, that is why many push on long after they are to tired to be safe.  And yes these companies expect/demand the drivers max out their hours weekly.  Another fact to consider, the drivers are getting older...but the same expectations are expected of 55 year old driver, as a 24 year old driver.  I know I do not have the same energy level as 53 year old that I did in my 20's.  I think something has to change.  Will things change, likely not...

    After seeing that overhead shot of the debris field, it really is a miracle that 14 people did survive ... unfortunately 15 souls did not make it, life cut to short...

    Sad day all around...

    And if this driver is at fault, id have no problem seeing him spend the remainder of his days in prison...



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  • We battle poor truck drivers on the Coquihalla (Highway Thru Hell) all the time. I'm not even going to begin to tell you my experiences which I'm sure are the same as everyone else's. There are several professional drivers, but there are many really poor drivers that, quite frankly, cause havoc. They are responsible for numerous highway closures and numerous accidents through sheer negligence or flat out incompetence.

    Speed was an issue here- it had to have been. If the truck had been stopped at the stop sign and then made the decision to proceed-not recognizing that a bus was still in the intersection- the collision would have been significant, but not so significant that both vehicles are destroyed with the semi load dispersed over numerous concentric circles and the bus reduced to its chassis.

    My hunch is that the driver was never intending to stop- either not recognizing he needed to... or thinking the bus was going to.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    We battle poor truck drivers on the Coquihalla (Highway Thru Hell) all the time. I'm not even going to begin to tell you my experiences which I'm sure are the same as everyone else's. There are several professional drivers, but there are many really poor drivers that, quite frankly, cause havoc. They are responsible for numerous highway closures and numerous accidents through sheer negligence or flat out incompetence.

    Speed was an issue here- it had to have been. If the truck had been stopped at the stop sign and then made the decision to proceed-not recognizing that a bus was still in the intersection- the collision would have been significant, but not so significant that both vehicles are destroyed with the semi load dispersed over numerous concentric circles and the bus reduced to its chassis.

    My hunch is that the driver was never intending to stop- either not recognizing he needed to... or thinking the bus was going to.
    I agree with you all accounts ... I live in Ontario along the 401 corridor ... drove that hwy for 20 years to, most semi drivers are not very professional, nor are they good drivers...if you ever get chance, watch heavy rescue 401...

    if the driver blew through the stop sign, then he should rot in prison...

    ive only been to sasketewan once...

    but I saw many of these type of  intersections ... Saskatchewan is not overly congested...many of these truckers are complacent behind the wheel. Changes need to come to the trucking industry...but that has to come from the feds...
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  • Meltdown99
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    Trudeau to attend vigil in Humboldt in honour of 15 Broncos crash victims

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/humboldt-bands-together-following-tragedy-1.4610261

    I am very glad that the PM will be attending ... these fine folks will need all the comfort, support and mental health support that can be given...
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  • Meltdown99
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    I post this because some local politicians say they need rumble strips and these trees block visibility.

    A fully loaded semi that has not slowed by the time it comes across rumble strips, probably it's too late.  If the truck was stopped, and the trees blocked his disability, the you proceed with extreme caution...  I really do not see a problem with this intersection... Driving is not rocket science...just way to many careless and inattentive drivers on the road.

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  • Meltdown99
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    The go fund me is closing in on 5 million...
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,681
    This is by far the most money ever received for a gofundme camapaign. Tells you just how touched by this tragedy people are.
    Just a terrible, heartbreaking disaster. :heartbreak: 
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