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  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,381
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    A certain poster is going ballistic and blaming Hillary.
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    I’d be curious to see how this actually gets enforced.  How do they know who has one and who does not?  
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,381
    PJPOWER said:
    I’d be curious to see how this actually gets enforced.  How do they know who has one and who does not?  
    Registrations?
    Because, as we all know, that is how President Obama will be able to send in his U.N. troops to find you and take away your guns
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    I’d be curious to see how this actually gets enforced.  How do they know who has one and who does not?  
    Registrations?
    Because, as we all know, that is how President Obama will be able to send in his U.N. troops to find you and take away your guns
    That’s just the thing, there are no mandated registrations...and hearing about this town trying to do this only validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry.  
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    Something seriously wrong with ‘murica. Check the photo from Missouri. How’s that guy gonna get the jump on the bad guy when his shootin’ Hand is holding the umbrella? Just another “responsible” gun owner, I reckon?

    https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/gun-ownership-rates-by-state/

    Im not sure I agree with the methodology of the survey as it seems to be a small sample size given the number of guns in circulation.

    yee haw!
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  • PJPOWER
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    PJ_Soul said:
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
    Hey, you convinced me, I will not vote for a candidate that supports a registry...or any other form of gun control.  Big surprise, I know, lol
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    edited April 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
    Hey, you convinced me, I will not vote for a candidate that supports a registry...or any other form of gun control.  Big surprise, I know, lol
    It’s okay, Team Trump Treason is going to trade Texas to Mexico for building the wall. They have all the labor anyway.
    Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on
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  • PJPOWER
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    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
    Hey, you convinced me, I will not vote for a candidate that supports a registry...or any other form of gun control.  Big surprise, I know, lol
    It’s okay, Team Trump Treason is going to trade Texas to Mexico for building the wall. They have all the labor anyway.
    WTF does that have to do with this thread?  Take your Trump obsession back to the Trump thread...
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    Congrats on CNN for another 100% misleading and completely untrue title.
    I didn't believe that to be true, so I read the article. If it was true there'd be costly lawsuits before it was ever enforced.  And guess what, it isn't true at all.
    Assault weapons are not banned.
    They are 100% legal to own in that city/village. It just states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" among a few of the options if you do decide to own one.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
    Hey, you convinced me, I will not vote for a candidate that supports a registry...or any other form of gun control.  Big surprise, I know, lol
    It’s okay, Team Trump Treason is going to trade Texas to Mexico for building the wall. They have all the labor anyway.
    WTF does that have to do with this thread?  Take your Trump obsession back to the Trump thread...
    If you don’t think Trump has something to do with the current situation regarding guns and gun laws, then I’m not really sure what to tell you. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
    Hey, you convinced me, I will not vote for a candidate that supports a registry...or any other form of gun control.  Big surprise, I know, lol
    It’s okay, Team Trump Treason is going to trade Texas to Mexico for building the wall. They have all the labor anyway.
    WTF does that have to do with this thread?  Take your Trump obsession back to the Trump thread...
    If you don’t think Trump has something to do with the current situation regarding guns and gun laws, then I’m not really sure what to tell you. 
    Lol, then maybe we should just merge the two threads?  He didn’t mention anything about Trump’s effect on gun laws in the comment, but I digress.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
    Hey, you convinced me, I will not vote for a candidate that supports a registry...or any other form of gun control.  Big surprise, I know, lol
    It’s okay, Team Trump Treason is going to trade Texas to Mexico for building the wall. They have all the labor anyway.
    WTF does that have to do with this thread?  Take your Trump obsession back to the Trump thread...
    That your vote in Texas has no bearing on a gun control measure vote in Illinois just like Mexico paying for the wall has no bearing on border security. I wouldn’t have a problem trading Texas for a wall.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mace1229 said:
    Congrats on CNN for another 100% misleading and completely untrue title.
    I didn't believe that to be true, so I read the article. If it was true there'd be costly lawsuits before it was ever enforced.  And guess what, it isn't true at all.
    Assault weapons are not banned.
    They are 100% legal to own in that city/village. It just states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" among a few of the options if you do decide to own one.
    Source?

    usa today reports differently.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/illinois-town-bans-assault-weapons-fine-those-who-keep-them/488987002/

    As for withstanding legal challenges, it’s modeled in a previous law that withstood legal challenges. Link to your source of what you claim is they just have to be broken down and stored?
     
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    edited April 2018
    PJPOWER said:
    PJPOWER said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    :confused: By that logic, no matter what anyone does to improve gun control validates the concerns of people that do not support a registry or any other gun control, lol. Yeah, people know that... I think their intention is to ignore those concerns because they run counter to their cause. The only real goal is to get the most people on one side or another so that the politicians who support their cause win elections.
    Hey, you convinced me, I will not vote for a candidate that supports a registry...or any other form of gun control.  Big surprise, I know, lol
    It’s okay, Team Trump Treason is going to trade Texas to Mexico for building the wall. They have all the labor anyway.
    WTF does that have to do with this thread?  Take your Trump obsession back to the Trump thread...
    That your vote in Texas has no bearing on a gun control measure vote in Illinois just like Mexico paying for the wall has no bearing on border security. I wouldn’t have a problem trading Texas for a wall.
    I’m cool with that because I do not want an Illinois vote having any bearing on gun control measures in TX.  I would trade Illinois for a pop tart, lol. Can we build a wall around Chiraq instead?
    Post edited by PJPOWER on
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,823
    edited April 2018
    mace1229 said:
    Congrats on CNN for another 100% misleading and completely untrue title.
    I didn't believe that to be true, so I read the article. If it was true there'd be costly lawsuits before it was ever enforced.  And guess what, it isn't true at all.
    Assault weapons are not banned.
    They are 100% legal to own in that city/village. It just states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" among a few of the options if you do decide to own one.
    Source?

    usa today reports differently.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/illinois-town-bans-assault-weapons-fine-those-who-keep-them/488987002/

    As for withstanding legal challenges, it’s modeled in a previous law that withstood legal challenges. Link to your source of what you claim is they just have to be broken down and stored?
     
    Link was in the original post I responded to. I just clicked on what was originally posted to get that misleading article. That CNN link originally posted is what states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" and not banned, even though the title for that same article says "An Illinois Town Just Banned Assault Rifles."
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/us/deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN040518deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd0159PMVODtop

    Also states as long as the assault weapon is "not immediately accessible to any person." Which would include in a gun safe. California requires all guns to be in a gun safe when children are in the home. This law seems to be a total dud compared to the heading. 
    Post edited by mace1229 on
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,952
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Congrats on CNN for another 100% misleading and completely untrue title.
    I didn't believe that to be true, so I read the article. If it was true there'd be costly lawsuits before it was ever enforced.  And guess what, it isn't true at all.
    Assault weapons are not banned.
    They are 100% legal to own in that city/village. It just states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" among a few of the options if you do decide to own one.
    Source?

    usa today reports differently.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/illinois-town-bans-assault-weapons-fine-those-who-keep-them/488987002/

    As for withstanding legal challenges, it’s modeled in a previous law that withstood legal challenges. Link to your source of what you claim is they just have to be broken down and stored?
     
    Link was in the original post I responded to. I just clicked on what was originally posted to get that misleading article. That CNN link originally posted is what states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" and not banned, even though the title for that same article says "An Illinois Town Just Banned Assault Rifles."
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/us/deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN040518deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd0159PMVODtop

    Also states as long as the assault weapon is "not immediately accessible to any person." Which would include in a gun safe. California requires all guns to be in a gun safe when children are in the home. This law seems to be a total dud compared to the heading. 
    Page 86 of the Town of Deerfield’s town council minutes speak to it being unlawful to possess, keep, store or manufacture assault weapons within the town of Deerfield and that this section does not apply for the transportation of assault weapons. Possession of a fully functioning assault weapon will have you in violation of the ordinance. Transporting through, out or in the town limits in a non-functional state as defined will not. The headline is not misleading in the least.
     
     
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,111
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Congrats on CNN for another 100% misleading and completely untrue title.
    I didn't believe that to be true, so I read the article. If it was true there'd be costly lawsuits before it was ever enforced.  And guess what, it isn't true at all.
    Assault weapons are not banned.
    They are 100% legal to own in that city/village. It just states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" among a few of the options if you do decide to own one.
    Source?

    usa today reports differently.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/illinois-town-bans-assault-weapons-fine-those-who-keep-them/488987002/

    As for withstanding legal challenges, it’s modeled in a previous law that withstood legal challenges. Link to your source of what you claim is they just have to be broken down and stored?
     
    Link was in the original post I responded to. I just clicked on what was originally posted to get that misleading article. That CNN link originally posted is what states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" and not banned, even though the title for that same article says "An Illinois Town Just Banned Assault Rifles."
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/us/deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN040518deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd0159PMVODtop

    Also states as long as the assault weapon is "not immediately accessible to any person." Which would include in a gun safe. California requires all guns to be in a gun safe when children are in the home. This law seems to be a total dud compared to the heading. 
    Page 86 of the Town of Deerfield’s town council minutes speak to it being unlawful to possess, keep, store or manufacture assault weapons within the town of Deerfield and that this section does not apply for the transportation of assault weapons. Possession of a fully functioning assault weapon will have you in violation of the ordinance. Transporting through, out or in the town limits in a non-functional state as defined will not. The headline is not misleading in the least.
     
     
    After this ban the town of deerfield should be the safest town in america.  I guess we will wait and see.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,907
    mcgruff10 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    Congrats on CNN for another 100% misleading and completely untrue title.
    I didn't believe that to be true, so I read the article. If it was true there'd be costly lawsuits before it was ever enforced.  And guess what, it isn't true at all.
    Assault weapons are not banned.
    They are 100% legal to own in that city/village. It just states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" among a few of the options if you do decide to own one.
    Source?

    usa today reports differently.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/04/05/illinois-town-bans-assault-weapons-fine-those-who-keep-them/488987002/

    As for withstanding legal challenges, it’s modeled in a previous law that withstood legal challenges. Link to your source of what you claim is they just have to be broken down and stored?
     
    Link was in the original post I responded to. I just clicked on what was originally posted to get that misleading article. That CNN link originally posted is what states that they must be "broken down in a non-functioning state," or "unloaded and enclosed in a case" and not banned, even though the title for that same article says "An Illinois Town Just Banned Assault Rifles."
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/05/us/deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd/index.html?sr=twCNN040518deerfield-illinois-assault-weapon-ban-trnd0159PMVODtop

    Also states as long as the assault weapon is "not immediately accessible to any person." Which would include in a gun safe. California requires all guns to be in a gun safe when children are in the home. This law seems to be a total dud compared to the heading. 
    Page 86 of the Town of Deerfield’s town council minutes speak to it being unlawful to possess, keep, store or manufacture assault weapons within the town of Deerfield and that this section does not apply for the transportation of assault weapons. Possession of a fully functioning assault weapon will have you in violation of the ordinance. Transporting through, out or in the town limits in a non-functional state as defined will not. The headline is not misleading in the least.
     
     
    After this ban the town of deerfield should be the safest town in america.  I guess we will wait and see.
    and with all the guns in Chicago that should be the safest city in America. alas it's not. damn those irresponsible gun owners.
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