New Album Soon... TBA - Still Waiting a Year later

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  • igotid88
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  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,093
    GREAT NEWS!!!! B) :rock_on:
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    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 41,058
    edited March 2018
    Vedd Hedd said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    huntersthompson said:
    What if they do release this as a physical single for 2017....to Ten Club members with something killer on the b-side....we get the vinyl we crave and something that won't be sold publically....except on ebay by the people who "hate" the song after the first listen...

    This could be a win-win....2017 single on vinyl and a new album....i will take it...
    This IS what they are doing.
    no one is disputing that is what they are doing. 
    Dude, you have an issue with me.  I get it.   I was answering the question of the person above me. 


    haha, yeah.........no. 
    Post edited by HughFreakingDillon on
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  • igotid88
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  • RiotZact
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    ^^ that really fucking rocked live!
  • BrainofBGA
    BrainofBGA Australia Posts: 4,576
    RiotZact said:
    ^^ that really fucking rocked live!
    I’ll second that! Jumped out of the blocks like a greyhound in heat! 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,937
    edited March 2018


    THAT ROCKS!!!!
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  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,328
    the start is good but the song just loses power after that...
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
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  • igotid88
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  • timdwilli
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    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
    True...there are definitely arguments that the album itself is a dying format because of how artists get paid on streams. I guess what I was trying to articulate is that the songs released leading up to an album are often not the "best" ones on the album (or the ones that A&R think will be the most popular) as they were in the past.
  • mr.mac
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    The Juggler said:
    RP112579 said:
    The Juggler said:
    RP112579 said:
    The Juggler said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    The Juggler said:
    I was okay with Cant Deny Me as a random/holiday single.........as the first single from a new album? I'm a little worried....
    recall the reaction to The Fixer? 
    Yup. That said, I was a little worried by WWS and MYM and those albums turned out okay. I want a great album though. This doesn't seem like the first single to a great album...
    Remember Who You Are?
    Bad example. LOVED it the moment I heard and No Code is a GREAT album.
    No Code is a great album, but Who You Are didn't seem like a great first single to a great album. The song is ok, at best.
    Who You Are is one of their best songs. You've lost your damn mind.
    It's almost like everyone has individual tastes and preferences.
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    timdwilli said:
    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
    True...there are definitely arguments that the album itself is a dying format because of how artists get paid on streams. I guess what I was trying to articulate is that the songs released leading up to an album are often not the "best" ones on the album (or the ones that A&R think will be the most popular) as they were in the past.
    Definitely, especially if what I said is true. This song may not be "the best" from the new album, but it might be the most relevant. Weird Al used this to his advantage a few years ago, releasing songs as he wrote them, so that the things he was parodying were still relevant, not an already passed fad.
    "I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."

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  • timdwilli
    timdwilli Posts: 297
    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
    True...there are definitely arguments that the album itself is a dying format because of how artists get paid on streams. I guess what I was trying to articulate is that the songs released leading up to an album are often not the "best" ones on the album (or the ones that A&R think will be the most popular) as they were in the past.
    Definitely, especially if what I said is true. This song may not be "the best" from the new album, but it might be the most relevant. Weird Al used this to his advantage a few years ago, releasing songs as he wrote them, so that the things he was parodying were still relevant, not an already passed fad.
    Yeah, makes sense. Hopefully the wait for the next one isn't too long!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Posts: 41,058
    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
    Billy Corgan tried that experiment (Teargarden project-releasing one song every few weeks for free so people could digest each song instead of just listening to the single) and while I loved it, it failed miserably. 
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  • bobasfeet
    bobasfeet Posts: 1,208
    edited March 2018
    timdwilli said:
    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
    True...there are definitely arguments that the album itself is a dying format because of how artists get paid on streams. I guess what I was trying to articulate is that the songs released leading up to an album are often not the "best" ones on the album (or the ones that A&R think will be the most popular) as they were in the past.

    I've been away for too long..  All indications new album dropping really soon, Radiohead In Rainbows style. I'm betting April. 

    Addressing singles, industry talk is some artists are leaning more toward releasing singles to stay "fresh/relevant" in folks ADHD minds. Some just releasing singles between album cycles and some releasing singles over time then compiling into an album. Personally, I hate this. I love the album format and always will. If you can't make an album of material GTHO.

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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961

    bobasfeet said:
    timdwilli said:
    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
    True...there are definitely arguments that the album itself is a dying format because of how artists get paid on streams. I guess what I was trying to articulate is that the songs released leading up to an album are often not the "best" ones on the album (or the ones that A&R think will be the most popular) as they were in the past.

    I've been away for too long..  All indications new album dropping really soon. Radiohead In Rainbows style. I'm betting April. 

    Addressing singles, industry talk is some artist's are leaning more toward releasing singles to stay "fresh/relevant" in folks ADHD minds. Some just releasing singles between album cycles and some releasing singles over time then compiling into an album. Personally, I hate this. I love the album format and always will. If you can't make an album of material GTHO.

    I'm with you (well, I think "GTHO" is a little extreme) - I'd far rather have an album all at once than a new single every few weeks over the course of a year.
    "I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."

    Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24

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  • bobasfeet
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    MP59559 said:

    bobasfeet said:
    timdwilli said:
    MP59559 said:
    timdwilli said:
    Wouldn't most people agree that the "single" carries a fraction of the weight that it once did? Most bands just trickle out songs leading up to the album release and some are better, some are worse than the remaining ones on the album (all subjective anyway!). Some artists just drop the whole thing at once with no lead up. Plus, FM radio/MTV as we knew them in the nineties are long gone, and with streaming services nobody is picking and choosing which songs to buy at $1 a pop anymore either. Worrying about singles in this day and age seems like a fool's errand to me. Looking forward to any and all songs that get released, and then hearing the whole thing as intended (hopefully on a Ten Club exclusive colored vinyl) when the album drops!
    Honestly, kind of think it's the opposite. I don't think the majority of consumers listen to full albums anymore (and I'm not if they ever really did). I think people DO pick and choose what to listen to (just without paying for each individual song), and that releasing songs a few at a time is probably a better way to get more people to listen to more of your music than waiting until you have 12-13 songs finished and dropping them all at once. Release a full album later for the small percentage of your base that still holds to that antiquated practice (of which, yes, I am one).
    True...there are definitely arguments that the album itself is a dying format because of how artists get paid on streams. I guess what I was trying to articulate is that the songs released leading up to an album are often not the "best" ones on the album (or the ones that A&R think will be the most popular) as they were in the past.

    I've been away for too long..  All indications new album dropping really soon. Radiohead In Rainbows style. I'm betting April. 

    Addressing singles, industry talk is some artist's are leaning more toward releasing singles to stay "fresh/relevant" in folks ADHD minds. Some just releasing singles between album cycles and some releasing singles over time then compiling into an album. Personally, I hate this. I love the album format and always will. If you can't make an album of material GTHO.

    I'm with you (well, I think "GTHO" is a little extreme) - I'd far rather have an album all at once than a new single every few weeks over the course of a year.
    Yeah, that was mostly aimed at shitty pop artists.
  • Jazzfan
    Jazzfan Posts: 45
    For people who likes this song: that's awesome and I'm glad you enjoyed but stop shaming or making assumptions about others who dislike it ("oh, I'm sure you didn't like bc is about Trump", "you must be a fake fan", "you are a whiner" ). Be respectful and tolerant. It's music after all, it's all subjective: for some people Riot Act is their best effort, for others is their weakest. One person may love Big Wave, I skip it every time. Personally this song doesn't move the needle but I'm looking forward to their next album and hopefully enjoying a few shows.

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