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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Just remember though 10c loves to use the "forthcoming" term and its loose interpretation. The band could have another 9 songs to write and record. :)
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,996
    FR181798 said:
    Just remember though 10c loves to use the "forthcoming" term and its loose interpretation. The band could have another 9 songs to write and record. :)
    Beck released a single about two years before it was put on the album
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    We know this was recorded last month and we know Matt at least was working on another song. So I'm betting they have made significant progress.
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  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24, 5/16/25, 5/18/25
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    fall by the wayside said:
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    I stand corrected.  Apparently, you CAN deny me. 
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    fall by the wayside said:
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck. 
    That’s just it man. There are a lot of us that are digital members. I can listen to it at 2x the quality today on Spotify. We basically didn’t get that 2017 benefit (a single exclusive to 10c members.)
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24, 5/16/25, 5/18/25
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,596
    Anybody know what the b-side is going to be?

    No?

    Then maybe we should pump the brakes on the disappointment and the claims that we missed out on a benefit.
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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,824
    Abe Froman said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    My email just says “2017 single hear the new PJ first”

    “Exclusive early download”
    Doesnt seem like it’s the “annual” single to me. But I could easily be wrong. 

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    JimmyV said:
    Anybody know what the b-side is going to be?

    No?

    Then maybe we should pump the brakes on the disappointment and the claims that we missed out on a benefit.
    no, but you have to admit, they've never given us an annual single that was the first single off the next album. that's not exclusive to club members anymore. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    FR181798 said:
    Just remember though 10c loves to use the "forthcoming" term and its loose interpretation. The band could have another 9 songs to write and record. :)
    True. Although they seem to all be in Seattle this winter quite a bit, like in December and January - random photos and posts here and there and Eddie's schedule all kind of seemed to suggest that they were working on something more together. But obviously it's all conjecture.
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  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961

    fall by the wayside said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    fall by the wayside said:
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck. 
    That’s just it man. There are a lot of us that are digital members. I can listen to it at 2x the quality today on Spotify. We basically didn’t get that 2017 benefit (a single exclusive to 10c members.)
    I get what you're saying, but it seems like a petty thing to be upset about. The bigger benefit to my membership is that I was able to secure tickets to the Fenway shows with zero stress of dealing with an online sale. That alone is worth my $20 (and another $20 to get the t-shirt, as I'm analog). The singles are fun to get, but I tend to listen to them once or twice and shelf them.
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  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    MP59559 said:

    fall by the wayside said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    fall by the wayside said:
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck. 
    That’s just it man. There are a lot of us that are digital members. I can listen to it at 2x the quality today on Spotify. We basically didn’t get that 2017 benefit (a single exclusive to 10c members.)
    I get what you're saying, but it seems like a petty thing to be upset about. The bigger benefit to my membership is that I was able to secure tickets to the Fenway shows with zero stress of dealing with an online sale. That alone is worth my $20 (and another $20 to get the t-shirt, as I'm analog). The singles are fun to get, but I tend to listen to them once or twice and shelf them.
    That’s fantastic that you’re OK with it. Doesn’t mean everyone feels the same way. It’s not a huge deal, and yes, tickets are the only reason I’m a member. But I don’t think it’s out of line to point out that this is still a benefit we pay for, and that it has always been an exclusive song for us. I'm guessing when they decided to kill two birds with one stone they were counting on a lot of members to brush it off like you did.
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24, 5/16/25, 5/18/25
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    Let's relax for a moment.   We pay 40 bucks a year.  For a music band's fan club.  This is not a Country Club Membership.  This isn't season tickets to a sporting event.  It's literally 40 bucks a year.   Its the right to purchase tickets ahead of the crowd, a record, and a special gift.  I mean, Pearl Jam isn't going to go into the studio to record stuff exclusively for 10c fans every year.  Sometimes, its a cool bootleg.  Sometimes, its a cover song.  Sometimes, its some ranting and raving, etc. This time, its the first single off the new album, on record, along with an unnamed b-side.  

    We just got news that not only did they drop a song unexpectedly, they also have a forthcoming album, and are starting their tour tonight. This also likely means that more shows will be on the way (Late this year, early next year) in support of the album. 

    I get it, some people like the song, some don't.  It's totally ok to not like it, or whatever.  But the amount of whining is getting out of control.  

    It's not like 10C members are the only ones that get to hear the 10C songs.   Lost Dogs was a release of a bunch of songs, some of which were previously 10C only.  Besides that...they are REALLY painfully easy to find on the internet. 


    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • GM151575
    GM151575 Freehold, NJ Posts: 352
    I did not like it. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,449
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Let's relax for a moment.   We pay 40 bucks a year.  For a music band's fan club.  This is not a Country Club Membership.  This isn't season tickets to a sporting event.  It's literally 40 bucks a year.   Its the right to purchase tickets ahead of the crowd, a record, and a special gift.  I mean, Pearl Jam isn't going to go into the studio to record stuff exclusively for 10c fans every year.  Sometimes, its a cool bootleg.  Sometimes, its a cover song.  Sometimes, its some ranting and raving, etc. This time, its the first single off the new album, on record, along with an unnamed b-side.  

    We just got news that not only did they drop a song unexpectedly, they also have a forthcoming album, and are starting their tour tonight. This also likely means that more shows will be on the way (Late this year, early next year) in support of the album. 

    I get it, some people like the song, some don't.  It's totally ok to not like it, or whatever.  But the amount of whining is getting out of control.  

    It's not like 10C members are the only ones that get to hear the 10C songs.   Lost Dogs was a release of a bunch of songs, some of which were previously 10C only.  Besides that...they are REALLY painfully easy to find on the internet. 


    I think we can all make comments without being told to relax. I am quite relaxed. I just find some of this bands/management's practices, when it comes to their fan club, a little puzzling. I mean, it says right in the ten club member bio thing that the single is exclusive to fan club members. 

    is it a massive deal? no. but all these little deals keep adding up. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • GM151575
    GM151575 Freehold, NJ Posts: 352
    mca47 said:
    Always excited for new stuff, but this is simply a terrible song.  I support the message but it’s painful to listen to.  Clunky lyrics, Ed sounds awful and musically it does nothing and goes nowhere.  
    I agree, it seems unfinished or a like demo, both in length and production
  • Pap
    Pap Serres, Greece Posts: 29,893
    And now you want me to breathe...
    And be so grateful...
    Ahhhhh, for the air that I need (haha)...
    Don't make me pitiful...
    And in the morning light...
    We're just the same you and me...
    Out on the go, send officials...
    Our propensity to breed...
     
    The higher, the farther, the faster you fly...
    You may be rich, but you can't deny me...
    Got nothing, got nothing but the will to survive...
    You can't control, and you can't deny me...

    Your lies are sick...
    They're sick and they're vile...
    You can't deny me...

    Try and talk down to me...
    My mind it ain't so simple...
    Where's your vocabulary?..
    Your ignorance is sinful...

    You plant your lying seeds...
    Watch as the roots take hold...
    The country you are now poisoning...
    Condition critical...
     
    The higher, the farther, the faster you fly...
    I know it's true, and you can't deny me...
    Got nothing, got nothing, you got nothing to hide...
    Little bullshit whore, and you can't deny me...
     
    The higher, the farther, the faster you fly...
    It's all so sick, and you can't deny me...

    You can't deny me...
    You can't deny me...
    You don't defy me...
    You can't deny me...
     
    The higher, the farther, the faster you fly...
    You know you're sick, and you can't deny me...
    Got nothing, just nothing, you got something to hide...
    We see right through you, and you can't deny me...
     
    Darkness, darkness, darkness and light...
    You can't deny me...
    Athens 2006 / Milton Keynes 2014 / London 1&2 2022 / Seattle 1&2 2024 / Dublin 2024 / Manchester 2024 / New Orleans 2025
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Vedd Hedd said:
    Let's relax for a moment.   We pay 40 bucks a year.  For a music band's fan club.  This is not a Country Club Membership.  This isn't season tickets to a sporting event.  It's literally 40 bucks a year.   Its the right to purchase tickets ahead of the crowd, a record, and a special gift.  I mean, Pearl Jam isn't going to go into the studio to record stuff exclusively for 10c fans every year.  Sometimes, its a cool bootleg.  Sometimes, its a cover song.  Sometimes, its some ranting and raving, etc. This time, its the first single off the new album, on record, along with an unnamed b-side.  

    We just got news that not only did they drop a song unexpectedly, they also have a forthcoming album, and are starting their tour tonight. This also likely means that more shows will be on the way (Late this year, early next year) in support of the album. 

    I get it, some people like the song, some don't.  It's totally ok to not like it, or whatever.  But the amount of whining is getting out of control.  

    It's not like 10C members are the only ones that get to hear the 10C songs.   Lost Dogs was a release of a bunch of songs, some of which were previously 10C only.  Besides that...they are REALLY painfully easy to find on the internet. 


    I think we can all make comments without being told to relax. I am quite relaxed. I just find some of this bands/management's practices, when it comes to their fan club, a little puzzling. I mean, it says right in the ten club member bio thing that the single is exclusive to fan club members. 

    is it a massive deal? no. but all these little deals keep adding up. 
    Maybe the term "lets stop for a second" would have been better than relax.  
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited March 2018
    These lyrics aren't very good. :neutral: I like the part about the little bullshit whore, and the sinful ignorance, and the roots taking hold (unfortunately)... but I dunno.... overall, these are kind of meh lyrics. Plus, I'm not quite sure what is supposed to be getting denied. Does he mean that Trump can't deny what's being said about him? Or is Trump supposed to be denying him/us/whoever of something? If so, what? Just basic common sense, or...?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata

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