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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445
    mace1229 said:
    And it is clearly called the "annual single" in the downloads.
    oh really, didn't notice that. weird. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,592
    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    From a marketing standpoint, this single is genius. It’s got people talking and interested. It’s edgy and different. I think they know what their doing.  After 28 years, sometimes you gotta poke the bears to see if their still hungry.
    Yeah, I kinda like that this was surprising and not business as usual.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,376
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    anything is possible here. our 2016 annual single is called the 2017 annual single. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,376
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    My email just says “2017 single hear the new PJ first”

    “Exclusive early download”
    Doesnt seem like it’s the “annual” single to me. But I could easily be wrong. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445
    Abe Froman said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    My email just says “2017 single hear the new PJ first”

    “Exclusive early download”
    Doesnt seem like it’s the “annual” single to me. But I could easily be wrong. 
    again, it was mentioned that in the download section of the website that it was called the annual single. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    edited March 2018
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    anything is possible here. our 2016 annual single is called the 2017 annual single. 
    True, but they specifically said that was a "typo".
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    anything is possible here. our 2016 annual single is called the 2017 annual single. 
    True, but they specifically said that was a "typo".
    did they come right out and say that before the place exploded? or was it after 345 pages of "which year is this?!"
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    anything is possible here. our 2016 annual single is called the 2017 annual single. 
    True, but they specifically said that was a "typo".
    did they come right out and say that before the place exploded? or was it after 345 pages of "which year is this?!"
    No, they said it after everyone was completely confused, lol. But they did say it. Plus, only one of the items said 2017 (was it the single or the Deep mag?). The other item said 2016.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,376
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Abe Froman said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    My email just says “2017 single hear the new PJ first”

    “Exclusive early download”
    Doesnt seem like it’s the “annual” single to me. But I could easily be wrong. 
    again, it was mentioned that in the download section of the website that it was called the annual single. 
    Oh my bad!  I missed that.  I guess it is the annual single then.  Hopefully has an unreleased B Side then.  And maybe is different than the album version?  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,395
    edited March 2018
    While several may not like the song or the lyrics, from a marketing standpoint, this is by far one of their easiest song messages for the majority of the fan base to fall in line behind and also reach non-fans. With all of Ed's high profile appearances, he's also more recognizable to people than ever. They can easily market the hell out of this now and in the future if you relate it more generally to the wealthy elite. It's obviously inspired by our current government leadership, but that doesn't mean it's only about that.

    This will split a lot of fans at the live shows, but this message will be big at their concerts; shirts, stickers, fan signs. I think they wanted a song that made a statement about what they see happening and something people could get behind. The phrase "Can't Deny Me" can be applied to so many things; sexual assault victims speaking out, gun violence protests, women's rights, climate change, etc. I think it's actually pretty genius.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    “Ed, what are you protesting against?”

    ”What ya got?”

    Nature drunk and High
  • dimitrispearljam
    dimitrispearljam Posts: 139,724
    CANT WAIOT TO SEE HOW WILL SOUND LIVE TONIGHT!
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • Sea
    Sea Posts: 3,122
    tbergs said:
    We're all so fucking crazy :lol:! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us! :rock_on:

    It is the 2017 Ten Club Single.

    :rock_on:
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445
    Sea said:
    tbergs said:
    We're all so fucking crazy :lol:! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us! :rock_on:

    It is the 2017 Ten Club Single.

    :rock_on:
    ten club single AND first single from the new album?
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,592

    Sea said:
    tbergs said:
    We're all so fucking crazy :lol:! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us! :rock_on:

    It is the 2017 Ten Club Single.

    :rock_on:
    Thank you.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • Abe Froman
    Abe Froman Posts: 5,376
    Sea said:
    tbergs said:
    We're all so fucking crazy :lol:! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us! :rock_on:

    It is the 2017 Ten Club Single.

    :rock_on:
    Thanks for clarifying!  Awesome.  Hope the b side is great as well!
  • quarterto10
    quarterto10 Posts: 47
    'Darkness, darkness, darkness and light...'

    'Blackout weaves its way through the city...'


    Optimism and strength and defiance now have the power....

    (I am assuming that that is an accurate read of the Can't Deny Me lyric)
    I would've fallen from the sky, till you...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,642
    edited March 2018
    Sea said:
    tbergs said:
    We're all so fucking crazy :lol:! We're each sitting around trying to interpret what word or missing words means as it relates to this song and it's official status. Anyone reach out to @Sea for clarification yet? You can't deny us! :rock_on:

    It is the 2017 Ten Club Single.

    :rock_on:
    It is really nice to get some real clarification, thank you (not that this wasn't clear as day already since you specifically stated it in your announcements, but still, it's nice to get rid of any confusion).
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Just remember though 10c loves to use the "forthcoming" term and its loose interpretation. The band could have another 9 songs to write and record. :)
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,996
    FR181798 said:
    Just remember though 10c loves to use the "forthcoming" term and its loose interpretation. The band could have another 9 songs to write and record. :)
    Beck released a single about two years before it was put on the album
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,592
    We know this was recorded last month and we know Matt at least was working on another song. So I'm betting they have made significant progress.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24, 5/16/25, 5/18/25
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445
    fall by the wayside said:
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck. 
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,631
    I stand corrected.  Apparently, you CAN deny me. 
    Turn this anger into
    Nuclear fission
  • fall by the wayside
    fall by the wayside Jericho, VT Posts: 759
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    fall by the wayside said:
    What an incredibly lazy way to fulfill paid member benefits that had been neglected. “Here’s a shit quality, 160 kbps mp3 of a song the whole world will have access to in full quality in 3 days. We’ve fulfilled our 2017 member obligation.” LOL
    we still get it on vinyl, and a b-side, presumably. it is odd, though, for digital members, to pay that much for a song that is supposed to be exclusive to the club and can buy it on itunes for a buck. 
    That’s just it man. There are a lot of us that are digital members. I can listen to it at 2x the quality today on Spotify. We basically didn’t get that 2017 benefit (a single exclusive to 10c members.)
    9/13/98, 10/4/00, 4/29/03, 6/29/03, 7/2/03, 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 9/15/05, 9/16/05, 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 10/30/09, 10/31/09, 5/15/10, 9/11/11, 9/12/11, 10/19/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 10/25/13, 10/27/13, 9/26/15, 4/28/16, 4/29/16, 8/5/16, 8/7/16, 8/13/18, 9/2/18, 9/4/18, 9/26/21, 9/1/22, 9/2/22, 9/14/22, 9/18/23, 9/19/23, 9/7/24, 9/9/24, 9/12/24, 9/15/24, 9/17/24, 5/16/25, 5/18/25
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,592
    Anybody know what the b-side is going to be?

    No?

    Then maybe we should pump the brakes on the disappointment and the claims that we missed out on a benefit.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,822
    Abe Froman said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    Abe Froman said:
    FR181798 said:
    Maybe its all just one big typo. LOL. If this is the annual single then it seems a bit of a rip off. Unless its sent out in the next couple of months then the new album could be out first. Still waiting here on the 2016 single.  I used to really enjoy the annual single but I dont think I would care if they stopped it. 
    I’m pretty sure this is just the first single from the new album. Not the annual single. 

    I would definitely care if they stopped the annual single. I love vinyl and look forward to the single every year. 
    But they called it the 2017 annual single..... You think that was somehow a "mistake"?
    My email just says “2017 single hear the new PJ first”

    “Exclusive early download”
    Doesnt seem like it’s the “annual” single to me. But I could easily be wrong. 

  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,445
    JimmyV said:
    Anybody know what the b-side is going to be?

    No?

    Then maybe we should pump the brakes on the disappointment and the claims that we missed out on a benefit.
    no, but you have to admit, they've never given us an annual single that was the first single off the next album. that's not exclusive to club members anymore. 
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