Schizophrenia

Shyner · March 2018

The government really needs to help out these people they are walking the cold streets with this disease.

ehbacon · March 2018

Schizophrenia is an absolutely horrific disease. Not many diseases that i would rather be dead than have, but schizophrenia is one of them. I'm a psychology student, so I've learned much about the disease.

Shyner · March 2018

Alzheimer's as well

Shyner · March 2018

MS

Meltdown99 · March 2018

Yes, it’s a horrible illness. Yes, the government really needs to do more for people with mental health.

Shyner · March 2018

They are digging a hole by closing down hospitals. The funding is being stripped.
I dont see anyone stepping up for this disease. Its horrible.

Meltdown99 · March 2018

Shyner said:

They are digging a hole by closing down hospitals. The funding is being stripped.
I dont see anyone stepping up for this disease. Its horrible.

I assume your American. Mental Health here in Ontario is not well funded.

brianlux · March 2018

Many of California's mental institutions were closed back in the 1970 and the patients were basically just turned out into the streets. Now, it's true that most of those institutions were wretched, hellish places where people were treated poorly at best, abused horribly at worst, but instead of rebuilding or revamping them, they were just closed. That was a terrible legacy of then governor Reagan's administration and one that still is in need of major improvements. I imagine in some places it's even worse.

Shyner · March 2018

Yes i am .It is the obligation of the strongest to help out the weaker.
Not saying my brother owes me anything
Im saying america needs to step up
Its imperative to have a world view
Not a patriotic view

Halifax2TheMax · March 2018

brianlux said:

Many of California's mental institutions were closed back in the 1970 and the patients were basically just turned out into the streets. Now, it's true that most of those institutions were wretched, hellish places where people were treated poorly at best, abused horribly at worst, but instead of rebuilding or revamping them, they were just closed. That was a terrible legacy of then governor Reagan's administration and one that still is in need of major improvements. I imagine in some places it's even worse.

Reagan did the same during the 80s as president, exploding the homeless population and leaving it to the states, minus the funding, to deal.

Hi! · March 2018

My oldest brother suffers from schizophrenia. I cant really put into words the toll it has put on my family, especially my parents who have taken care of him his whole life.
I don't know alot about the disease and the different levels but he suffers from probably the worst case of it.
I read an article awhile back in Huffpost and the actually had an audio clip that tried to give you some sort of idea what goes on inside someones head that suffers from the disease. Let me just say it was probably the scariest shit I ever heard. I started crying and it still makes me sad that my brother has had to deal with that his whole life.
Just brutal.
Im sad now.

Shyner · March 2018

I'm sad with

vaggar99 · March 2018

Halifax2TheMax said:

brianlux said:

Many of California's mental institutions were closed back in the 1970 and the patients were basically just turned out into the streets. Now, it's true that most of those institutions were wretched, hellish places where people were treated poorly at best, abused horribly at worst, but instead of rebuilding or revamping them, they were just closed. That was a terrible legacy of then governor Reagan's administration and one that still is in need of major improvements. I imagine in some places it's even worse.

Reagan did the same during the 80s as president, exploding the homeless population and leaving it to the states, minus the funding, to deal.

irony

Meltdown99 · March 2018

Ok so we identified reagon caused some big problems...but let’s not kid ourselves. Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives and so on, none of them are doing all that much for mental health or homeleseness...reagon was a looooong time a ago, there been plenty of time to reverse his mistakes. As for homeless people, vast amounts of homeless people are unemployable due to mental illness or physical disabilities...and they do not have the skills necessary to get good jobs. If people are no longer are able to work because of an illness then that needs to be addressed with affordable housing and some sort of living income to keep them off the streets, combined with getting them the medical attention needed. But who are we kidding, politicians who care if they get your vote...

jeffbr · March 2018

Meltdown99 said:

Ok so we identified reagon caused some big problems...but let’s not kid ourselves. Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives and so on, none of them are doing all that much for mental health or homeleseness...reagon was a looooong time a ago, there been plenty of time to reverse his mistakes. As for homeless people, vast amounts of homeless people are unemployable due to mental illness or physical disabilities...and they do not have the skills necessary to get good jobs. If people are no longer are able to work because of an illness then that needs to be addressed with affordable housing and some sort of living income to keep them off the streets, combined with getting them the medical attention needed. But who are we kidding, politicians who care if they get your vote...

You're exactly right. It is easy to talk about Reagan back in the early '80s. That was 35+ years ago for Christ sake. Things began even before that with JFK, though. We've since had a couple of Dem presidents, a few Rep presidents, a Dem controlled congress with a Dem president. Plenty of time to devote needed attention and resources. This goes way beyond a partisan issue. Both parties have consistently defunded mental health at the federal level. And don't forget that in 1975 the ACLU played a major role in this, by making convincing the court that involuntary commitment is violation of one's right to liberty (see O'Connor v. Donaldson). It is a very difficult issue, with plenty of blame to go around.

PJ_Soul · March 2018

It's a tough one for sure. The main issue, I think, is how a healthcare system keeps people with severe mental illness on medication.... As it is, there really isn't any way to do it unless they are proven to be dangerous, and thus locked up and/or monitored by the state. These kinds of mental illnesses specifically make the sufferers stop taking their necessary meds, and then it's all downhill from there, and with that being the case, even with a great mental healthcare system, what the fuck can anyone do, unless there is some way to force them to take their meds, which, of course, is a serious legal/constitutional/charter of rights problem. Honestly, until there is a cure or a vaccine or something, I'm not sure there is a really good solution at the end of the day.

Meltdown99 · March 2018

jeffbr said:

Meltdown99 said:

Ok so we identified reagon caused some big problems...but let’s not kid ourselves. Republicans, Democrats, Liberals, Conservatives and so on, none of them are doing all that much for mental health or homeleseness...reagon was a looooong time a ago, there been plenty of time to reverse his mistakes. As for homeless people, vast amounts of homeless people are unemployable due to mental illness or physical disabilities...and they do not have the skills necessary to get good jobs. If people are no longer are able to work because of an illness then that needs to be addressed with affordable housing and some sort of living income to keep them off the streets, combined with getting them the medical attention needed. But who are we kidding, politicians who care if they get your vote...

You're exactly right. It is easy to talk about Reagan back in the early '80s. That was 35+ years ago for Christ sake. Things began even before that with JFK, though. We've since had a couple of Dem presidents, a few Rep presidents, a Dem controlled congress with a Dem president. Plenty of time to devote needed attention and resources. This goes way beyond a partisan issue. Both parties have consistently defunded mental health at the federal level. And don't forget that in 1975 the ACLU played a major role in this, by making convincing the court that involuntary commitment is violation of one's right to liberty (see O'Connor v. Donaldson). It is a very difficult issue, with plenty of blame to go around.

Some good information ...

Where I live in southern Ontario I’ve seen the homeless problem get worse.

Meltdown99 · March 2018

PJ_Soul said:

It's a tough one for sure. The main issue, I think, is how a healthcare system keeps people with severe mental illness on medication.... As it is, there really isn't any way to do it unless they are proven to be dangerous, and thus locked up and/or monitored by the state. These kinds of mental illnesses specifically make the sufferers stop taking their necessary meds, and then it's all downhill from there, and with that being the case, even with a great mental healthcare system, what the fuck can anyone do, unless there is some way to force them to take their meds, which, of course, is a serious legal/constitutional/charter of rights problem. Honestly, until there is a cure or a vaccine or something, I'm not sure there is a really good solution at the end of the day.

You are in BC, according to a mental health nurse I know, she says BC is ahead of the country when it come to treating mental health, but there is a ways everywhere.

PJ_Soul · March 2018

Meltdown99 said:

PJ_Soul said:

It's a tough one for sure. The main issue, I think, is how a healthcare system keeps people with severe mental illness on medication.... As it is, there really isn't any way to do it unless they are proven to be dangerous, and thus locked up and/or monitored by the state. These kinds of mental illnesses specifically make the sufferers stop taking their necessary meds, and then it's all downhill from there, and with that being the case, even with a great mental healthcare system, what the fuck can anyone do, unless there is some way to force them to take their meds, which, of course, is a serious legal/constitutional/charter of rights problem. Honestly, until there is a cure or a vaccine or something, I'm not sure there is a really good solution at the end of the day.

You are in BC, according to a mental health nurse I know, she says BC is ahead of the country when it come to treating mental health, but there is a ways everywhere.

Wtf, if that's true, then I can't even imagine how bad it is elsewhere. In Vancouver I can't go out without having some kind of run in with severely mentally ill people, and many streets downtown and some other places are lined with homeless people year 'round, and supposedly a good 60 - 65% of them are mentally ill.

josevolution · March 2018

My mother suffers from Alzheimers it's starting to get bad she's on meds and my father is retired so he takes care of her we all pitch in to help him out , i get depressed thinking about her everyday when ever i'm alone i think of her i cry as i'm driving alone just thinking of her , at least she does have a loving family around her ...

jeffbr · March 2018

josevolution said:

My mother suffers from Alzheimers it's starting to get bad she's on meds and my father is retired so he takes care of her we all pitch in to help him out , i get depressed thinking about her everyday when ever i'm alone i think of her i cry as i'm driving alone just thinking of her , at least she does have a loving family around her ...

Really sorry, Jose. I know all too well how it affects family. My mother also has Alzheimer's. She's been living with my sister and her family for years, and over the past few years has deteriorated to the point where she doesn't know us (but will act like she does for family gatherings), lashes out, needs assistance with basic hygiene, talks about her childhood as if that is what she is currently experiencing (she's often waiting for her long-ago deceased dad to pick her up and take her home). It is crazy how she's gone from a charmingly forgetful woman to a shell of a human being. It is devastating to watch and is emotionally exhausting. She was my rock growing up. She's now just a shadow of herself. I wouldn't wish this affliction on anyone. Stay strong. It is a tough journey.

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