America's Gun Violence

cincybearcat said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Pensions are typically contributory and grow over time based on stock market and investment strategies. Welcome to Unsung’s America, where $100k in retirement  is rich.

Welcome to the world 1% where $100k, in your mind, isn't rich.

Median household income in the US is $59k.  You are saying having less than two years income socked away is rich?

I assumed the pension he's referring to is an annual payment?  perhaps I'm wrong.

Bentleyspop said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Pensions are typically contributory and grow over time based on stock market and investment strategies. Welcome to Unsung’s America, where $100k in retirement  is rich.

Welcome to the world 1% where $100k, in your mind, isn't rich.

Define rich.

Kevin Durant is wealthy
The guys who signs his paychecks is rich

mrussel1 said:

Ba hahhahhahahhaha!  Who believes this for one friggin' second?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375597-trump-i-would-have-run-into-school-during-shooting-even-without-a-gun

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Ba hahhahhahahhaha!  Who believes this for one friggin' second?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375597-trump-i-would-have-run-into-school-during-shooting-even-without-a-gun

Which part? The running into the school without a gun during an active shooter incident or that the NRA is on "our" side and we shouldn't worry about them. Depending, the Team Trump Treason Trumpeters.

mrussel1 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mrussel1 said:

Ba hahhahhahahhaha!  Who believes this for one friggin' second?

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/375597-trump-i-would-have-run-into-school-during-shooting-even-without-a-gun

Which part? The running into the school without a gun during an active shooter incident or that the NRA is on "our" side and we shouldn't worry about them. Depending, the Team Trump Treason Trumpeters.

That is just normal political bullshit about the NRA.  Yet a guy who has five deferments for bone spurs, and clearly hasn't run in 30 years, is going to run into a school to stop an active shooter?  What an asshole.  

Halifax2TheMax said:

unsung said:

So how will it get paid?  See in a perfect world that liability is funded.  But in Illinois, which has nearly $125B in total liabilities long term it isn't.

So unless you have money trees, that can somehow raise capital without reducing the value of the existing, it won't get paid.

So that’s the teachers fault? That the state failed to fund their pension or raided it?

stuckinline said:

• Georgia Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle said he will not support a bill that would give Delta a massive tax break, unless the airline reverses its decision to sever a partnership with the National Rifle Association.
• Delta ended the NRA partnership on Saturday due to pressure from gun control advocates following the mass shooting in Parkland, Florida.
• The proposed bill would exempt jet fuel purchases from Georgia sales tax and could save Delta around $40 million.

http://www.businessinsider.com/delta-nra-georgia-casey-cagle-threatens-retaliation-2018-2

unsung said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

unsung said:

So how will it get paid?  See in a perfect world that liability is funded.  But in Illinois, which has nearly $125B in total liabilities long term it isn't.

So unless you have money trees, that can somehow raise capital without reducing the value of the existing, it won't get paid.

So that’s the teachers fault? That the state failed to fund their pension or raided it?

Yes, partially.

The State has tried pension reform numerous times, even going so far as to declare all current employees' pensions safe, where they tried to change just for future hires.

The union shoots it down every time.  They'd rather go down with the ship.

And yeah, many get a $100k annual pension.  

There was a widespread problem where one would get into a Superintendent position,  retire, then go take the same job in another district and double book it.  I think they bave managed to stop that now.

Pesky teachers, such jerks asking that the state live up to the bargain they made when they demand that teachers sign contracts outlining every little thing they can and cannot do.   Shift to 401k style plans, keep reducing the amount of employer contributions, then tell employees they are on their own to save for retirement after YEARS of service.  401k's can be cut at any time which means that people are on their own for retirement which is complete BS when companies and governments made promises at hiring that people could expect a decent retirement.  It's one thing to say that up front but to change it when someone is mid-career is mind-blowing.  Callous and completely lacking in any empathy at all.  Corporations that pull this stunt (I'm looking at you UPS) are the worst because they are still making huge profits which upper management still get, not to mention shareholders but employees?  Eh, f them, right.   I guess breaking promises and not living up to your word is a conservative practice now?  And I'd  like to see what TEACHERS are making 100k in a pension, NOT superintendents, but teachers.  Double dipping is one thing, and should be stopped, but I find it doubtful that any teacher retires with a 100k pension.  Can you provide documentation of that claim?